Board 8 > Tiny toon adventures mafia topic 3: the banned episode

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Corrik posted...

I think FD is still scum.

Why is that again?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

5tarscream posted...

Im Elmira Duff. Town hugger

TOWN?

BZZZZZTTT

Also...this post struck me as scummy as well.
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FD needs one more thing for my tastes. Consistency.

His play is pretty similar to his PW play, though.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

I think FD is still scum.

Why is that again?

It is mostly gut, but I think he is attacking a known not so good/erratic player with less than stellar arguments and his play looks different than I would normally expect.
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Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.
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I just think he is pissed off at Alakazam still a bit. Sorry FD not trying to be a jerk and dismiss you but Alakazam is pretty infuriating.

Also is it classic scum moves to go "BZZZT" now? I'd say lean town on that post in a vacuum.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I just think he is pissed off at Alakazam still a bit. Sorry FD not trying to be a jerk and dismiss you but Alakazam is pretty infuriating.

Also is it classic scum moves to go "BZZZT" now? I'd say lean town on that post in a vacuum.

At the very deadline after someone claims a town power making a post to try and seal the lynch? Yeah, I don't buy that.
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Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

I think FD is still scum.

Why is that again?

It is mostly gut, but I think he is attacking a known not so good/erratic player with less than stellar arguments and his play looks different than I would normally expect.

The question this would make me ask is what has he done concerning Alakazam before. FD/Alakazam were in both the previous two games, but I don't remember FD's demeanor towards him.
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He tried to kill him heavily in PW and has berated him out of game for his play since.
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Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

I think FD is still scum.

Why is that again?

It is mostly gut, but I think he is attacking a known not so good/erratic player with less than stellar arguments and his play looks different than I would normally expect.

The question this would make me ask is what has he done concerning Alakazam before. FD/Alakazam were in both the previous two games, but I don't remember FD's demeanor towards him.

I don't think he even acknowledged him and Alakazam was clearly making stuff up for reads as town that game and was caught by multiple ppl.
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Can someone find me alakazam's claim btw
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Wait, am I remembering that wrong?
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Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.
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Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.
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Although if FD is scum it'd auto clear me, red, and blade as scum.

Sadly not feeling it.
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Corrik posted...

Can someone find me alakazam's claim btw

Pretty sure it was Montana Max, vanilla.

And someone immediately went flavor meta but I don't remember who.
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Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?
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Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Can someone find me alakazam's claim btw

Pretty sure it was Montana Max, vanilla.

And someone immediately went flavor meta but I don't remember who.

I am just curious if Colzach... TOWN???? BZZZTTTT. Him also or not.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?
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Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Plum was going after FD in the last hour of the day. No one else was.

And if scum FD was so worried about people who suspected him, why kill the half-inactive Plum over you?
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Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

*Looks at Blade*

Hey so Blade do you see my point here and how Corrik completely avoided my point?
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##vote: Corrik

I love it when Blade talks sense to me.
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Well, I guess the obvious answer would be if you're scum together but I kinda doubt that in this case. There's no sustained argument on FD without you to begin with.
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Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Plum was going after FD in the last hour of the day. No one else was.

And if scum FD was so worried about people who suspected him, why kill the half-inactive Plum over you?

I mean the only explanation for a plum kill is one of the following.

1. A hard power read
2. Someone didn't think he should be playing with his personal life the way it is.

I'd have to handedly assume 1.

Well, there is a third.

3. To play power players against themself/use them as a shield for paranoia.

3 is actually the most likely.
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Anyway town Corrik who thinks fd is scum also thinking he would kill LITERAL PLUM over him makes no internal sense.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

*Looks at Blade*

Hey so Blade do you see my point here and how Corrik completely avoided my point?

He avoided it in a way I'd expect Corrik to avoid it really
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

*Looks at Blade*

Hey so Blade do you see my point here and how Corrik completely avoided my point?

Nah. You just don't get my point.
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i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.
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Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

There's no 2ed hit?

Killing plum was kind of bazaar. I would have expected red or bad or Chris or even Corrik.
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red13n posted...

i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.

Let's hear that reasoning.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

There's no 2ed hit?

Killing plum was kind of bazaar. I would have expected red or blade or Chris or even Corrik.

Fixed
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Then why aren't you dead?

Why aren't there two night kills last night?

There's no 2ed hit?

Killing plum was kind of bazaar. I would have expected red or bad or Chris or even Corrik.

I don't know what you are saying. However, the point was Chris was supposed to respond "how the fuck would I know"... And then he slowly realizes that is the answer to his own question.
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Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Plum was going after FD in the last hour of the day. No one else was.

And if scum FD was so worried about people who suspected him, why kill the half-inactive Plum over you?

I mean the only explanation for a plum kill is one of the following.

1. A hard power read
2. Someone didn't think he should be playing with his personal life the way it is.

I'd have to handedly assume 1.

Well, there is a third.

3. To play power players against themself/use them as a shield for paranoia.

3 is actually the most likely.

The problem with #3 is Plum is a legitimately good player if he gets into the game (In this playerlist, he's top 5). Plum certainly had the potential to be a threat later on in the game. Day 1 showed little indication he was getting into gear though.

If anything leaving him alive would achieve result #3 better than killing him.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

red13n posted...

i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.

Let's hear that reasoning.

Personally I think at least one of you or Red is scum but yeah paranoia.

Red felt off to me yesterday and I made it clear he did, I've just never had anything concrete on him.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

red13n posted...

i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.

Let's hear that reasoning.

still alive.
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You must have been really paranoid from the dead player's pool day 5 last game then.
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Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Plum was going after FD in the last hour of the day. No one else was.

And if scum FD was so worried about people who suspected him, why kill the half-inactive Plum over you?

I mean the only explanation for a plum kill is one of the following.

1. A hard power read
2. Someone didn't think he should be playing with his personal life the way it is.

I'd have to handedly assume 1.

Well, there is a third.

3. To play power players against themself/use them as a shield for paranoia.

3 is actually the most likely.

The problem with #3 is Plum is a legitimately good player if he gets into the game (In this playerlist, he's top 5). Plum certainly had the potential to be a threat later on in the game. Day 1 showed little indication he was getting into gear though.

If anything leaving him alive would achieve result #3 better than killing him.

Well, let's say this. Let's say 2 of those 4 are scum. Let's spitball red and Chris here just because I am talking to you specifically.

Do you really wanna leave 3 decent players alive to use as ur power play paranoia shield? Or is 2 plenty? Maybe even just 1 is. Depends I guess. Hell maybe 2 nks come tonight for all we know. That said, if Chris and red keep living all game when say you were killed night 1 and then etc. Doesn't it kind of look bad on them? However, you kill a "fringe" okay player that only a few of you old timers would even think of him as and newbies and ce players wouldn't...
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That differs a bit from last game when you were town, I remember you said me or corrik were scum due to the night kill at the time, not just 'still alive' paranoia. Feels like a step back from your most recent town performance. Scum point.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

You must have been really paranoid from the dead player's pool day 5 last game then.

Corrik had a hard vanilla read on you early and stopped caring you existed for the most part

Scum didn't even seriously entertain killing you until night 4

So I guess you got what you wanted?
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I did! I wanted to play a fucking mafia game as town for once.
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red13n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

red13n posted...

i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.

Let's hear that reasoning.

still alive.

Or your scum
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Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Meow1000 posted...

Corrik posted...

Plum also thought FD was scum also I might point out.

I already did. He was the only person to seriously bring up FD late in the day.

I feel like it's more likely scum wants Plum's kill to make FD look bad than scum FD was afraid of Plum. Plum's argument on FD was basically useless.

I brought up FD and asked plum to vote him with me tbqh.

Plum was going after FD in the last hour of the day. No one else was.

And if scum FD was so worried about people who suspected him, why kill the half-inactive Plum over you?

I mean the only explanation for a plum kill is one of the following.

1. A hard power read
2. Someone didn't think he should be playing with his personal life the way it is.

I'd have to handedly assume 1.

Well, there is a third.

3. To play power players against themself/use them as a shield for paranoia.

3 is actually the most likely.

The problem with #3 is Plum is a legitimately good player if he gets into the game (In this playerlist, he's top 5). Plum certainly had the potential to be a threat later on in the game. Day 1 showed little indication he was getting into gear though.

If anything leaving him alive would achieve result #3 better than killing him.

Well, let's say this. Let's say 2 of those 4 are scum. Let's spitball red and Chris here just because I am talking to you specifically.

Do you really wanna leave 3 decent players alive to use as ur power play paranoia shield? Or is 2 plenty? Maybe even just 1 is. Depends I guess. Hell maybe 2 nks come tonight for all we know. That said, if Chris and red keep living all game when say you were killed night 1 and then etc. Doesn't it kind of look bad on them? However, you kill a "fringe" okay player that only a few of you old timers would even think of him as and newbies and ce players wouldn't...

It's that divisiveness that makes Plum the perfect target to leave alive in the first place. The veteran town and the newer town will be at odds dealing with his behavior when something like that happens the game can go off the track to begin with.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

red13n posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

red13n posted...

i'm going to wager a high chance of blade or chris being scum(Could be both). less so corrik. but possible.

Let's hear that reasoning.

still alive.

Or your scum

Lol... Let the big boys talk, Alakazam. Lol. We know you are town. You are good, bud.
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Meow1000 posted...

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It's that divisiveness that makes Plum the perfect target to leave alive in the first place. The veteran town and the newer town will be at odds dealing with his behavior when something like that happens the game can go off the track to begin with.

I... actually agree there.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

WAY TOO EARLY POE

Town

Sultan - Yeah.
Fake - I have not bought anything Nana was selling here. Dude would seriously impress me if he was faking this noobness.
FD - His points in his posts were very crisp and rung true to me. My only hesitation is I don't remember FD's scum game, but whatever.

2. Alakazamtrainer
3. Ashetan
4. ChaosTonyV4
5. ColZach
6. Corrik
12. Meow1000 (Blade)
13. Nanahara715a
14. pjbasis
15. red13n

4-5 of these people are scum.

I have established Nana/Alakazam are very unlikely to be aligned given what happened EOD yesterday. I will add Ashe/Nana to that as well as busing over voting town power there is REALLY crazy. Possible to be reviewed later on, but extremely unlikely.

You forgot me!
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tldr

Plum makes one of the best people in the game to leave alive to cause power player paranoia as half the game will have it and half the game won't.
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So then the kill in your opinion is a hard power read and not indicative of the scum team composition in regards to it.
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Holy fuck I didn't realize there was a topic 3. I spent the entire fucking day wondering why we never got a fucking flip.
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##vote: Nana
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