Board 8 > Tiny toon adventures mafia topic 3: the banned episode

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Ashethan posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also Ashe 4 + 1 is a thing for sure, balance wise. Usually give Scum a BP or something in that scenario.

Sure, but then add in Dizzy too? I mean technically that could redirect scum's kill back at them. I mean it'd be an unlikely shot, but it's possible. Town lynches the Bulletproof Scum day 1, Redirects Scum's kill back to them (highly unlikely, but still technically possible) plus a kill from the SK. That's 3/4ths of the scum team dead by day 2.

In any case, I'm not sure where this line of thinking really gets us. Scum killed Plum, and that's all we really know about what they did at present.

I was correcting your balance thought, do realize I am trying to figure out what red is on about.

Red you really shouldn't have vagued this up if you are town. Outright or nothing. You know better.
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MZero11 posted...

I'm not saying the lynch or who argued it is a tell

I'm saying you saw Corrik's post, got a little spooked, and made up the thing about not knowing there was a new topic to throw him off

Or at least I'm saying it's possible

Speaking of which how did you find this topic in the end?

I already said I won't answer this; please stop asking.
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##Unvote
##Vote: MZero

I think he's trying to insinuate that I found out about the topic through the scum board, and is scum that is trying to opportunistically get me lynched on this assertion.

(This is not the case)
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Nanahara715 posted...

MZero11 posted...

I'm not saying the lynch or who argued it is a tell

I'm saying you saw Corrik's post, got a little spooked, and made up the thing about not knowing there was a new topic to throw him off

Or at least I'm saying it's possible

Speaking of which how did you find this topic in the end?

I already said I won't answer this; please stop asking.

Idk, I would answer that. It's a lot more suspious if you don't.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

MZero11 posted...

I'm not saying the lynch or who argued it is a tell

I'm saying you saw Corrik's post, got a little spooked, and made up the thing about not knowing there was a new topic to throw him off

Or at least I'm saying it's possible

Speaking of which how did you find this topic in the end?

I already said I won't answer this; please stop asking.

Idk, I would answer that. It's a lot more suspious if you don't.

I agree that makes me feel like he is hiding something big here.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Idk, I would answer that. It's a lot more suspious if you don't.

I can think of a reason why he wouldn't want to answer it.
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SK doesn't mean Scum Kill does it? I was thinking it did at first but I'm hearing it mentioned as something else.
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Alakazam, Sultan - He was likely host poked and cannot mention that or risk being in trouble. He doesn't have to confirm or deny this, I understand why it would set your little mins ablaze in suspicion but it's null.
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(strongly applies he is town though, but the lack of answering should be seen as null)
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nana is claiming hugged?
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red13n posted...

nana is claiming hugged?

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Red...
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oh it was the other way sorry. Forget that, but hes claiming some variant of it?

Or rather, hes claiming he got some sort of game notification.

It was too early for an outright host poke.
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I mean the Hugger was lynched, red, first off.

Also he came in an hour after day started, red.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I mean the Hugger was lynched, red, first off.

i got that, I got the order of deaths mixed up in my head for a sec(I just got back from running my dog).
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Red, are you alright? Like....legit question.
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Yoooooo

##unvote: tony
##vote: Nana


If youre going to be blatantly scummy and not answer a question, what do you expect? I personally still think Blade is scum but a straight refusal to answer a question seems downright negative to the game.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also he came in an hour after day started, red.

it was his first post on gfaqs in at least 10 hours. So I'm assuming he logged in and saw some sort of PM.

Host wouldnt modpoke a player 1 hour into day. So, logically speaking, he had something happen to him at night to get a notification.
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So why wouldn't he just say that though?
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the other option is his scum.

but then you have to answer the question, would nana play the worlds biggest idiot card in a mafia game?

because if hes scum that is the card he is playing.
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That isn't the direction I am thinking but boy would that be quite the gambit. Almost lynched day 1 (make the mistake for real of not seeing it) and then just....no selling.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

So why wouldn't he just say that though?

I dont know. Last I saw he said he wont answer, not that he cant.

If he said otherwise I missed it.
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He has asked very pointedly to stop being asked.
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the thing is, it would have been significantly easier to just say nothing at all. He could have acted totally normally instead he comes in and says he totally missed the topic.

I feel like if he couldnt talk about it, he wouldn't have been allowed to mention it in the first place.

So that was what was leading me to believe he could talk about it if he chose.
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Red you realize that you've done nothing but uselessly speculate about useless things, right?

I mean, I'm calling you scum at this point.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Red you realize that you've done nothing but uselessly speculate about useless things, right?

I mean, I'm calling you scum at this point.

This isn't pointless, theres a pretty large group that wants to lynch nana for it, and it doesn't seem like they are looking at the obvious question: is he playing a huge gambit as scum.

because that is what it requires.
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There is also side 2 of it from yesterday: scum was willing to let Nana be lynched yesterday.
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There are scum teams of 3 (4+1, so nana is one scum in theory) that your theory that 'scum was willing to let nana be lynched yesterday' that isn't in theory true.
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where the hell is this aligned talk coming from anyway. we havent had an aligned role in forever.
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the 1 was SK, red.
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oh. either way, look at how close the votes are.

unless you think scum piled onto one person, they could have turned the lynch to both ashe or nana because it was so close(And been easy to justify).

we finished the day with only 10-12 relevant votes depending on who you asked. Scum could have turned that to nana(The lynch arguably, did get turned to nana) or Ashe with ease.
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Well we had a handful of players not there, and scum would have wanted to lynch town power if possible (so in this paradigm Blade someone you are suspicious of and also voted the non-nana lynch should raise an eyebrow)

I just don't understand your thinking. I mean Nana can totally be town and I don't think I even disagree with the conclusion, but your arrival to the destination is confusing me.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Well we had a handful of players not there, and scum would have wanted to lynch town power if possible

The others were unclaimed, honestly its best to oust multiples where you get a roleblock and kill scenario.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I just don't understand your thinking. I mean Nana can totally be town and I don't think I even disagree with the conclusion, but your arrival to the destination is confusing me

Nana was arguably lynched by a single vote. Its not really that hard of a concept to understand.

Possibly, but also Nana wasn't in the catbird's seat for long was he?
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Votals
[3] Nana - Corrik, Sultan, ColZach
[1] red - Chris
[1] MZero - Nana
[0] Tony - (ColZach)
[0] Sultan - (Nana)
[0] Corrik - (Chris)
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1. If you are modpoked, you can mention that.

2. You would only have been modpoked during the night phase after you were active at deadline if you were town power who had forgotten to submit an action.

How did Tony put it.... BBBZZZZTTTT
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Actually... you know what...

##unvote:

Maybe that isn't a bzzttt...
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I feel like red is being too blatantly inconsistent and weird. Almost like he wants to be suspected. I can't imagine him being this bad as scum. Almost like he is cop with a guilty scan who wants to keep it in his pocket til tomorrow and has to be scummy enough to live the night.

I can't see any other reason for his sk comments.

literally everyone is giving me vibes of power.
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Honestly, I don't know why people didn't just assume I refreshed the B8 front page and saw Topic 3 at ~midnight EST. Seems like that would've been the easy place to go to, so I think someone is trying to project malice into this situation (looking at MZero).
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Possibly, but also Nana wasn't in the catbird's seat for long was he?

I don't know what a catbird is.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Honestly, I don't know why people didn't just assume I refreshed the B8 front page and saw Topic 3 at ~midnight EST. Seems like that would've been the easy place to go to, so I think someone is trying to project malice into this situation (looking at MZero).

is this a correct assumption?

because thats what I was assuming as the modpoke theory people were flaunting seemed unreasonable.
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Nanahara715 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Possibly, but also Nana wasn't in the catbird's seat for long was he?

I don't know what a catbird is.

I dont even know what basic powers like cop do. I figured they would have just been able to arrest someone overnight but apparently not.

I realize there is some leeway in specific game rules but is there some sort of general powers and roles guideline sheet thats not against the rules to talk about or link to? I was hoping for one when the game started tbh.

As for catbird seat it probably means the one who was gong to be lynched.

I still dont know what SK means though
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red13n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Honestly, I don't know why people didn't just assume I refreshed the B8 front page and saw Topic 3 at ~midnight EST. Seems like that would've been the easy place to go to, so I think someone is trying to project malice into this situation (looking at MZero).

is this a correct assumption?

because thats what I was assuming as the modpoke theory people were flaunting seemed unreasonable.

It is not a correct assumption or he simply would have just said that and said he can't say why.
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Damn it corrik just let him answer so we csn put the convo to rest.

FakeAccount3000 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Possibly, but also Nana wasn't in the catbird's seat for long was he?

I don't know what a catbird is.

I dont even know what basic powers like cop do. I figured they would have just been able to arrest someone overnight but apparently not.

I realize there is some leeway in specific game rules but is there some sort of general powers and roles guideline sheet thats not against the rules to talk about or link to? I was hoping for one when the game started tbh.

As for catbird seat it probably means the one who was gong to be lynched.

I still dont know what SK means though

Serial Killer is an independent role that has a kill every night (normal variants, anyway) and needs everyone else dead to win.

And as I suspected, Colzach's gonna learn a lesson I taught MI about bias years ago.

Protip being mad at me doesn't make me scum. Bring an actual reason, because seriously, there's some pretty obvious actual reasons out there to be wary of me.

Just calling me scum ain't going to do crap regardless of my alignment. If you think I am you have to push it hard and not relent.

Oh and for all the newbies I've made virtually this exact post as any alignment before so it's not a town tell or a scum tell.
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I can remember almost nothing MZero has done since he replaced in btw
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Meow1000 posted...

I can remember almost nothing MZero has done since he replaced in btw

True but he is also Asian so his timezones don't line up for certain things
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He has been pretty on Nana today tho
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So town
Alakazam
Colzach

Likely town
Nana
Red

Likely scum
chaostony
Ffd
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Why is Red likely town?

Also interesting. Scum Corrik immediately called Pxl confirmed town after the non-modkill last game, but he hasn't gone near doing the same for Sultan here, whilst many others have.

I know Corrik could easily make a change like that if he thought about it first but it's a good look on him.
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