Board 8 > Tiny toon adventures mafia topic 3: the banned episode

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Corrik
07/22/18 11:04:11 PM
#51:


Um okay.

And a game with all renamed roles not explained by the host when they die.

"Cool"
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:11:06 PM
#52:


And my post got eaten.

But yeah I don't get it he showed up as soon as he got a vote, placed a scummy vote with no reasoning, and said things that directly contradicted established facts of the game, which proved he was only pretending to read up and give effort.

Yet every time I vote that person it's town power acting exactly like scum would. My town power lynch rate day 1 is absurd. It's still funny that the one time I was actually on scum at the end of day 1, I got a few votes on day 2 because people thought I had to be bussing because I actually had a vote in the right place day 1.

Also I don't normally meta kills but who the **** kills Plum of all people night 1? The guy had maybe a dozen posts of any significance day 1.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:12:10 PM
#53:


Corrik posted...
Um okay.

And a game with all renamed roles not explained by the host when they die.

"Cool"


Yep. 5tar needed to explain the role when he claimed it, we're dealing with a virtual crapshoot.
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eaedwards6400
07/22/18 11:13:41 PM
#54:


If you guys are gonna bitch I'll set the record straight.

A Hugger was just a Prosty with 'Hug' instead of 'Slept with' but without the self-confirmation of the target getting a "you have been slept with".

And a Dizzy was a role that changed the target of your target to a random person. Similar to a bus driver..

There.

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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:13:45 PM
#55:


And yeah BM5 had some ambiguity but it still explained more or less what the renamed roles actually were.

It's hard to operate like this.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:14:50 PM
#56:


Hi5 Corrik and Blade, we made the change happen.

Anyway the end of yesterday was really annoying all around, I stayed up later than I wanted.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:15:03 PM
#57:


eaedwards6400 posted...
If you guys are gonna bitch I'll set the record straight.

A Hugger was just a Prosty with 'Hug' instead of 'Slept with' but without the self-confirmation of the target getting a "you have been slept with".

And a Dizzy was a role that change the target of your target to a random person. Similar to a bus driver..

There.


Given 5tar literally claimed that power like 30 seconds before he died we kind of already figured that one once he flipped town.

And yes, renamed roles with no explanation at all are one of the worst things you can put into a mafia game. It makes the game virtually impossible to understand.

Also Dizzy is "Scrambler", then.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:16:07 PM
#58:


It would be funny if Plum targeted the night killer and died because of it.

I will miss you, my vassal.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:16:08 PM
#59:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hi5 Corrik and Blade, we made the change happen.

Anyway the end of yesterday was really annoying all around, I stayed up later than I wanted.


Why is the super scummy player playing nothing like town should that I lynch day 1 always town power

Do you have any hypotheses
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:16:10 PM
#60:


In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:16:56 PM
#61:


Town power like to lay low because they want to overly rely on their power but don't realize their true power lies in being a strong advocate for town during the day time and thus horribly fuck it up?
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/18 11:16:58 PM
#62:


eaedwards6400 posted...
If you guys are gonna bitch I'll set the record straight.

A Hugger was just a Prosty with 'Hug' instead of 'Slept with' but without the self-confirmation of the target getting a "you have been slept with".

And a Dizzy was a role that changed the target of your target to a random person. Similar to a bus driver..

There.

Sounds like you could use... One beer.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:17:12 PM
#63:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
It would be funny if Plum targeted the night killer and died because of it.

I will miss you, my vassal.


That requires too much random for my liking as a conclusion. Plum would've had to target the killer on a 1/14 shot, who would've been redirected to Plum on a 1/15 shot.

Not going to humor a 1/210 discussion much.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:17:15 PM
#64:


Corrik posted...
In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.


Fuck, Blade he's on to us. Do you think we can outwit Corrik?
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eaedwards6400
07/22/18 11:18:14 PM
#65:


Meow1000 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
If you guys are gonna bitch I'll set the record straight.

A Hugger was just a Prosty with 'Hug' instead of 'Slept with' but without the self-confirmation of the target getting a "you have been slept with".

And a Dizzy was a role that change the target of your target to a random person. Similar to a bus driver..

There.


Given 5tar literally claimed that power like 30 seconds before he died we kind of already figured that one once he flipped town.

And yes, renamed roles with no explanation at all are one of the worst things you can put into a mafia game. It makes the game virtually impossible to understand.

Also Dizzy is "Scrambler", then.


I had never seen a scrambler before I thought I made it up so I didn't think it was fair to explain. We can discuss more post game.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:18:50 PM
#66:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Town power like to lay low because they want to overly rely on their power but don't realize their true power lies in being a strong advocate for town during the day time and thus horribly fuck it up?


His posts were both fluff AND contradicted established facts of the game while trying to act like he had caught up and read everything, and then he didn't give an answer the questions that came from it because he didn't have an answer to give.

Why is that town every time I vote for it
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:18:58 PM
#67:


Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
It would be funny if Plum targeted the night killer and died because of it.

I will miss you, my vassal.


That requires too much random for my liking as a conclusion. Plum would've had to target the killer on a 1/14 shot, who would've been redirected to Plum on a 1/15 shot.

Not going to humor a 1/210 discussion much.


Humor being the key word.

Someone killed plum because... well let's see

1. He was supportive of me as a player (and we're 3 days before Plum would have gone code red against me)

2. They thought he said something that hinted at power

3. ???
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eaedwards6400
07/22/18 11:19:41 PM
#68:


Apologies for the reaction, yelling babies can drive you insane lol.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:20:21 PM
#69:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.


Fuck, Blade he's on to us. Do you think we can outwit Corrik?


Yeah but if Blade/Chris are scum and Red isn't we'd shoot Red right

Oh wait
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:20:37 PM
#70:


Stop posting in topic ead. Scrambler was one of the abilities I asked blade to explain from last game that he never did.
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ChaosTonyV4
07/22/18 11:20:40 PM
#71:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
What in the actually hell just happen?!


Ok this is awkward, but I gotta say this puts Sultan squarely in the noob Town category.

Also FUCK, starscream.

He made it too fucking easy with so little time for more info, so I feel we DIDNT learn anything just like I was afraid of.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:20:53 PM
#72:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Meow1000 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
If you guys are gonna bitch I'll set the record straight.

A Hugger was just a Prosty with 'Hug' instead of 'Slept with' but without the self-confirmation of the target getting a "you have been slept with".

And a Dizzy was a role that change the target of your target to a random person. Similar to a bus driver..

There.


Given 5tar literally claimed that power like 30 seconds before he died we kind of already figured that one once he flipped town.

And yes, renamed roles with no explanation at all are one of the worst things you can put into a mafia game. It makes the game virtually impossible to understand.

Also Dizzy is "Scrambler", then.


I had never seen a scrambler before I thought I made it up so I didn't think it was fair to explain. We can discuss more post game.


It's very rare and I'm not sure it has an official name. I have also seen it called "Randomizer"
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:21:07 PM
#73:


Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.


Fuck, Blade he's on to us. Do you think we can outwit Corrik?


Yeah but if Blade/Chris are scum and Red isn't we'd shoot Red right

Oh wait

So... Red/Chris/blade. And I am alive cuz Chris wants revenge. Checks out.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:21:52 PM
#74:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
What in the actually hell just happen?!


Ok this is awkward, but I gotta say this puts Sultan squarely in the noob Town category.

Also FUCK, starscream.

He made it too fucking easy with so little time for more info, so I feel we DIDNT learn anything just like I was afraid of.


Yep Sultan is most likely town no interest in looking there right now.

5tar's post in my game made Pxl obvious town, but I felt it was unfair to modkill her for what he did.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:22:26 PM
#75:


Meow1000 posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
TheSultanOfSlam posted...
What in the actually hell just happen?!


Ok this is awkward, but I gotta say this puts Sultan squarely in the noob Town category.

Also FUCK, starscream.

He made it too fucking easy with so little time for more info, so I feel we DIDNT learn anything just like I was afraid of.


Yep Sultan is most likely town no interest in looking there right now.

5tar's post in my game made Pxl obvious town, but I felt it was unfair to modkill her for what he did.

What was ur excuse for colzach's post after the deadline and deletion of said post?
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:22:29 PM
#76:


Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.


Fuck, Blade he's on to us. Do you think we can outwit Corrik?


Yeah but if Blade/Chris are scum and Red isn't we'd shoot Red right

Oh wait


Hey, I did tell them that if Blade/Chris/Red/Suprak (who isn't in the game) was scum that the town was screwed. THEY WERE WARNED, BLADE.

But anyway uh we need to clean up the game ASAP. More activity, less bullshit. Also Sultan is a special boy but let's not meta things like that as much as possible.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:22:39 PM
#77:


Corrik posted...
Stop posting in topic ead. Scrambler was one of the abilities I asked blade to explain from last game that he never did.


Wait when was this

The only time that word even came up was postgame
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ChaosTonyV4
07/22/18 11:22:50 PM
#78:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyway the end of yesterday was really annoying all around, I stayed up later than I wanted.


Also this too.

With my kids schedule Im up by 5 at the latest, so 10+ sucks.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:23:34 PM
#79:


Meow1000 posted...
Corrik posted...
Stop posting in topic ead. Scrambler was one of the abilities I asked blade to explain from last game that he never did.


Wait when was this

The only time that word even came up was postgame

When you posted the random abilities u expected had and I asked what a scrambler was?
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:27:19 PM
#80:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
It would be funny if Plum targeted the night killer and died because of it.

I will miss you, my vassal.


That requires too much random for my liking as a conclusion. Plum would've had to target the killer on a 1/14 shot, who would've been redirected to Plum on a 1/15 shot.

Not going to humor a 1/210 discussion much.


Humor being the key word.

Someone killed plum because... well let's see

1. He was supportive of me as a player (and we're 3 days before Plum would have gone code red against me)

2. They thought he said something that hinted at power

3. ???


I'm not sure why on 1 or 2, because he didn't stick out much or really do anything for out of game reasons. As for #3, Plum openly voiced suspicion primarily on two players, Tony and FD. He was the only one to take a serious jab at FD by calling him "flustered".

I actually think Plum's kill makes FD look a little better, because it's the kill you'd expect a "flustered" FD to want to make - except I think Plum wasn't giving him enough credit as a player.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:27:57 PM
#81:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
In b4 Chris and blade are scum together.


Fuck, Blade he's on to us. Do you think we can outwit Corrik?


Yeah but if Blade/Chris are scum and Red isn't we'd shoot Red right

Oh wait


Hey, I did tell them that if Blade/Chris/Red/Suprak (who isn't in the game) was scum that the town was screwed. THEY WERE WARNED, BLADE.

But anyway uh we need to clean up the game ASAP. More activity, less bullshit. Also Sultan is a special boy but let's not meta things like that as much as possible.


This is true

But you said Suprak so I just thought it was a joke since the guy wasn't playing
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:31:57 PM
#82:


I just want to point out that multiple people voted after the deadline. They are all likely town as they tried to flip off what was town power and not scum. They could have simply have just missed the deadline and not tried.
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red13n
07/22/18 11:34:06 PM
#83:


Corrik posted...
I just want to point out that multiple people voted after the deadline. They are all likely town as they tried to flip off what was town power and not scum. They could have simply have just missed the deadline and not tried.


people are bad at time. Wouldn't necessarily say this.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:34:32 PM
#84:


Also I can see a scum Nana flipping out that votes after the deadline were counted to lynch him and making sure that got fixed.
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Alakazamtrainer
07/22/18 11:34:39 PM
#85:


Corrik posted...
I just want to point out that multiple people voted after the deadline. They are all likely town as they tried to flip off what was town power and not scum. They could have simply have just missed the deadline and not tried.


Mines was 23s after dead line, that could account for just about anything internet related

The now dead starscream was 45s off which is less grey area.

How do you read those Corrik?
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red13n
07/22/18 11:34:45 PM
#86:


now, the person that posted way after a stop and got host warned, they are almost certainly town.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:35:31 PM
#87:


red13n posted...
Corrik posted...
I just want to point out that multiple people voted after the deadline. They are all likely town as they tried to flip off what was town power and not scum. They could have simply have just missed the deadline and not tried.


people are bad at time. Wouldn't necessarily say this.

But why would scum be bad at time? They simply just have to not post at all. I would think a scum purposely posted after deadline to look town before scum just accidentally tried to save town power at the buzzer.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:36:10 PM
#88:


God I thought it was Suprak I have never seen Sultan before.

Anyway votals yesterday

[4] 5tar - pjbasis, (Chris), Blade, (Plum), Nana, ColZach
[3] Nana - FA3000, (Chris), (Chris), (Plum), Ashethan, Chris
[3] Ashethan - Tony, (Sultan), Sultan, red
[2] Forceful - Zam, Corrik
[1] Zam - (FA3000), Forceful, (ColZach)
[1] Tony - ("MZero"), (Chris), (Plum), Ashethan, (pjbasis), (Sultan)
[0] FA3000 - (Nana), (Corrik)
[0] Corrik - (Zam), (pjbasis), (red)
[0] ColZach - (Chris)
[0] Chris - (ColZach)
[0] pjbasis - (Sultan), (ColZach)
[0] plum - (Corrik), (Corrik)
[0] IGCD - (Tony)
[0] red - ("MZero")

These votals have Ashe voting twice, a bit confused but whatever. Not hugely impressed by anyone who ended up being on 5tar at the end of the day, doubt that foursome is pure.

Bit of a mess all told to be honest. Had a couple of just late votes both for Nana, which in hindsight was an act of saving town power. Rules out aligned pair of Alakazam/Nana, and the other was 5tar so that is obvious.

People on Ashe are noted bread crumber Tony, Noob Sultan, and Red.

If Nana is scum it makes Corrik look bad, since he was unavailable and the end of day doesn't really support a swing to save Nana.

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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:36:16 PM
#89:


The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:37:50 PM
#90:


red13n posted...
now, the person that posted way after a stop and got host warned, they are almost certainly town.


Yep.

Now we hope he gives us something useful.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:37:55 PM
#91:


Meow1000 posted...
The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.


I burst out laughing imagining Alakazam trying to do this.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:38:05 PM
#92:


Meow1000 posted...
The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.

That is sorta why deadlines should be enforced with an iron hand.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:39:20 PM
#93:


Corrik posted...
Meow1000 posted...
The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.

That is sorta why deadlines should be enforced with an iron hand.


This is one thing MU does very well, actually. The topic automatically locks itself at the very second of deadline.
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Meow1000
07/22/18 11:40:37 PM
#94:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Meow1000 posted...
The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.


I burst out laughing imagining Alakazam trying to do this.


Yeah I don't think the idea would even cross his mind.

You were scum with me in that game I'm referencing. Shade was the only scum to get lynched and you kept telling him to "Stop with the scummy sarcasm" and he just never did. I can't remember who intentionally voted me late though.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:42:33 PM
#95:


So I am pretty sure Alakazam is town based on that. Unfortunately the other was the dearly departed. = /

Sultan I am less sure on just because he is super new, but I would venture probably town as well.

So that is good to know.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:43:10 PM
#96:


WAY TOO EARLY POE

Town

Sultan - Yeah.
Fake - I have not bought anything Nana was selling here. Dude would seriously impress me if he was faking this noobness.
FD - His points in his posts were very crisp and rung true to me. My only hesitation is I don't remember FD's scum game, but whatever.

2. Alakazamtrainer
3. Ashetan
4. ChaosTonyV4
5. ColZach
6. Corrik
12. Meow1000 (Blade)
13. Nanahara715a
14. pjbasis
15. red13n

4-5 of these people are scum.

I have established Nana/Alakazam are very unlikely to be aligned given what happened EOD yesterday. I will add Ashe/Nana to that as well as busing over voting town power there is REALLY crazy. Possible to be reviewed later on, but extremely unlikely.
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:43:49 PM
#97:


I was about to protest that result when I saw it in between movies and was reading. Then when I came back from the second movie the votals were corrected. Was a weird end of the day.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:44:09 PM
#98:


Meow1000 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Meow1000 posted...
The only person who fits that boat is Alakazam. The other one who did it just died. I don't feel much like lynching Zam right now anyway.

Also it's bad logic for the better players. I'm pretty sure I was scum in DQV Mafia where day 1 ended with a scum voting for me just after the deadline, intentionally missing the cutoff.


I burst out laughing imagining Alakazam trying to do this.


Yeah I don't think the idea would even cross his mind.

You were scum with me in that game I'm referencing. Shade was the only scum to get lynched and you kept telling him to "Stop with the scummy sarcasm" and he just never did. I can't remember who intentionally voted me late though.


Wasn't that a stretch of 4-5 games I loved the flavor in that I just bodied the other side? DQV, One Piece, Stargate, etc
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Corrik
07/22/18 11:45:13 PM
#99:


I think FD is still scum.
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DoomTheGyarados
07/22/18 11:45:21 PM
#100:


Slight correction: rung true as in genuine. I still think FD is seeing ghosts when it comes to Alakazam (as in I have no idea how he claims to be able to tell the bad from the scum in his game)
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