Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 18: Four Fangs Reunited!

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barreldragon88
07/04/18 12:46:13 PM
#401:


KamikazePotato posted...
Good grief, Lyon is being annihalated. He needs like 5 bonus hours to catch up to Ike whenever he gets behind. Gonna need an asspull of massive proportions to swing this.

Team Feathers, nothing wrong with that. Since Ike didn't win the last VG, he has a very good chance of winning this one
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IfGodCouldDie
07/04/18 6:16:54 PM
#402:


Are armoured units only in the red variety? If not who are some good blue armoured units?
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IfGodCouldDie
07/04/18 6:17:37 PM
#403:


Also does anyone ever feel like they just dont get the colors they are looking for?
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Dark Young Link
07/04/18 6:37:50 PM
#404:


I snipe greens, yes.
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Kenri
07/04/18 6:46:54 PM
#405:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Are armoured units only in the red variety? If not who are some good blue armoured units?

Effie is decent with certain builds (generally either player phase with Brave Lance+ and Death Blow or enemy phase with Berkut's Lance+ and Distant Counter). Otherwise I think there's really only seasonal units like Christmas Robin and Love Awakens Lyn.

Edit: Also Hardin.
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Xuxon
07/04/18 10:48:55 PM
#406:


man i haven't seen a Sigurd bonus hour yet this round and he's only projected to get 2 more, with 1 while i'm asleep.
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Team Rocket Elite
07/04/18 11:00:00 PM
#407:


Xuxon posted...
man i haven't seen a Sigurd bonus hour yet this round and he's only projected to get 2 more, with 1 while i'm asleep.


Where are those numbers coming from? By my count, Sigurd could get as many as 7 more bonus hours. Unless the match has terrible Same luck, it won't go below 4.
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Xuxon
07/04/18 11:28:29 PM
#408:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14bu5V0hIxcE2UOe0HtWp7-CmRPaHvOM1Z9mSEbFi1t4/htmlview#

down to only 1 predicted bonus hour

and yeah i could see up to about 7 being possible. there's certainly nothing logically stopping him from getting more than 2. just what it's predicting now.
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 1:26:52 AM
#409:


*Looks at Lyon's projected bonus*

Good Fomortiis! That poor boy.
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IfGodCouldDie
07/05/18 11:21:50 AM
#410:


When you grind out like 120 orbs to try and go for the legendary guy and the orbs you need just dont show up. I was forced to pull more blue orbs than I even got green orbs to show up. Feelsbadman

I did get like 3 Ikes and 2 Morgans out of it....
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Grimmer
07/05/18 11:46:43 AM
#411:


On the plus side, if you want to build a dragon team, brave Ike is a fantastic pull. It's the best skill to give Tiki and Nowi.

I threw some orbs at the banner at the last minute and I now have another spare Ike. Which is ok I guess
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IfGodCouldDie
07/05/18 12:24:51 PM
#412:


That's a bonus then woo hoo!
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 1:54:46 PM
#413:


My haul from new banner:

+HP/-Def Azura
+Def/-Res Sonya
+Spd/-HP Hector
+Atk/-Res Hector

Got Azura after my free summon, and Sonya was my combo-breaker, thankfully not when I was going deep. I got both long after the time period where I actually wanted them. Azura is still nice, I'll swap her in with one of my current dancers and she'll grind up HM in no time. Sonya will just sit there for who knows how long. Love her art, but I don't ever find a need for a green mage that just needs to deal damage that's not a -bladetome user

After Sonya broke my pity rate, I was thinking I probably can only go for one Hector since I didn't know how much more I'd have to spend to get him, but then both Hector's appeared in the summoning session. Freakin' awesome!

Karla is looking like a good candidate for Hector. I am tempted to go back in for one more Hector, but probably better to save for Hinoka if she's on Luna banner and CYL2
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mcflubbin
07/05/18 2:05:05 PM
#414:


I want to post my new and improved Laslow build!

https://imgur.com/zJ3AZkn

Changes:
- Finally splurged on Quick Riposte 3
- Used the Bike I got on this banner to give him Steady Breath instead of Steady Stance 3
- Sacrificed my Lene (RIP) to give him Safeguard+
- Gave him Close Def seal instead of the flat Def seal

With the changes he now reaches 60 defense when directly attacked (43 base + 4 from Steady Breath + 7 from Safeguard + 6 from Close Def), and that's without buffs. I originally used the flat Defense +3 seal to minimize damage from Brave Lyn and other ranged threats, but typically archers and dagger users don't reach >54 attack unless they have crazy buffs. Plus the Close Def seal means he takes less damage from common dragon threats like Myrrh.

My friend ID is 4856116677 if anyone wants to use him, he's pretty much always my main hero.
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Luis_Sera89
07/05/18 4:16:45 PM
#415:


I got Hector from my free summon, which is always nice. Don't think I can really fodder off a +Def -Spd one though.
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 4:31:37 PM
#416:


Luis_Sera89 posted...
I got Hector from my free summon, which is always nice. Don't think I can really fodder off a +Def -Spd one though.

Is this your first Hector?
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Lopen
07/05/18 4:47:30 PM
#417:


Huh I'm kinda disappointed Serra isn't in the BHB since she's on the banner. Guess we'll just have to wait for the Erk BHB in 3 years for her to get dialogue even though Matthew is clearly the better ship for her.

I dread drawing on this for Hector, getting 5 colorless and getting a Matthew/Serra. I'm sure it'll happen.
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 4:50:20 PM
#418:


As soon as I saw Matthew and Serra on the same banner I thought "Man, if only this came for Lopen sooner".
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Lopen
07/05/18 4:52:45 PM
#419:


Honestly I'm kinda glad it didn't. I would've wasted orbs on it to save feathers when right now I have 97k feathers I'm not using (way less 3-4 rarity base units I actually like than I thought). And yesterday I had over 200k I just caved and started +10ing Soren cause I can't draw Oboros for the life of me.
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Grimmer
07/05/18 4:57:42 PM
#420:


I have almost 460k feathers now. I did get the last Soren copy I needed so i might just merge him up also
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 5:05:51 PM
#421:


I'll trade you guys crystals for feathers XD
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Lopen
07/05/18 5:21:18 PM
#422:


Oh I still like feathers but I don't see a need to have more than 200k accumulated since you can basically +10 with that.

Color concerns are the main reason I have less targets than I like. I really wanted to +10 a blue/green next and yeah the only blues/greens I like that aren't 5* or BHB are Cherche, Oboro, Soren, L'Arachel, Odin, Cordelia. Catria, Hawkeye, Titania, Cecilia, Frederick, and Subaki.

Some of those are a big stretch for how much I really like them (Tailtiu and Catria are all design since I haven't played FE1 or FE4 yet, and Hawkeye/Titania/Subaki/Cecilia/Frederick aren't exactly anywhere near one of my favorites though I do like them), some I can't draw (Oboro, L'Arachel), some don't seem to get a lot of benefit from merges (Cherche), and some seem like they'd be a lot of effort to get a vaguely decent unit (Odin).

So it was basically Soren vs Cordelia for now. There are other unreleased pegasus riders I like more-- less so on green mages, so Soren is the next +10 for now. Currently +6. No more copies yet-- mostly because I send the 3* copies home because I'm patient and would rather save the 2000 feathers per 3*.

I also made a 5* Fir because I got a +Spd/-Def on my very first copy of her way back in the day and felt like she was overdue-- despite my glut of swords and her having like 5 3-4* reds ahead of her that I'd +10 first.
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Xuxon
07/05/18 7:08:56 PM
#423:


if they'd just make a flashing blade seal i think Fir could be really great. iceberg powered by her res and nameless blade would be stronger than regnal astra.
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Luis_Sera89
07/05/18 7:27:47 PM
#424:


barreldragon88 posted...
Luis_Sera89 posted...
I got Hector from my free summon, which is always nice. Don't think I can really fodder off a +Def -Spd one though.

Is this your first Hector?


It's my first original Hector, yeah. I've pulled 3 LA!Hector's (all +Spd "lol"), and got a +Atk Legendary Hector as well though.
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IfGodCouldDie
07/05/18 8:18:53 PM
#425:


Luis_Sera89 posted...
barreldragon88 posted...
Luis_Sera89 posted...
I got Hector from my free summon, which is always nice. Don't think I can really fodder off a +Def -Spd one though.

Is this your first Hector?


It's my first original Hector, yeah. I've pulled 3 LA!Hector's (all +Spd "lol"), and got a +Atk Legendary Hector as well though.

How long have you been playing?
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IfGodCouldDie
07/05/18 8:23:56 PM
#426:


Grimmer posted...
On the plus side, if you want to build a dragon team, brave Ike is a fantastic pull. It's the best skill to give Tiki and Nowi.

I threw some orbs at the banner at the last minute and I now have another spare Ike. Which is ok I guess

What skill should I be giving them from Ike?
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Luis_Sera89
07/05/18 8:29:31 PM
#427:


I've been playing since launch for the first 2-3 months, then took a 7 month break and I've been playing since December again.
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 8:30:41 PM
#428:


Brave Ike? Steady Breath is the skill you want to inherit from him.

Aether is obtainable from Chrom (3-4*)
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 10:00:16 PM
#429:


I got my first L'Arachel today. Whoever designed her weapon must hate her guts. Sucks to be her fan

"Let's boost her one stat that's the equivalent of not giving her a boost"

On another note, green is probably my most pulled color to-date. It didn't start like that, and I gradually began pulling on green more depending on who the focus was. The last few banners I pulled on, I pulled all green. It feels a bit bad sending so many Soren's home, but he's a low priority project and doesn't offer much in the way of SI, so can't be helped
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 10:28:18 PM
#430:


Whoever designed that weapon would be beaten senseless, were she not a holy woman.

Regardless, she's still that beautiful princess of peerless beauty we love :)

(Tempted to +10 her but I really need arena viable units to merge for now...)
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Yankees
07/05/18 10:36:48 PM
#431:


I don't have L'Arachel yet either. I only care so much about merging just for the arena. I'd be merging boring armors if that was the case. I'm going to build who I like.

It is done

https://imgur.com/jTstHF8
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Lopen
07/05/18 10:38:33 PM
#432:


Dark Young Link posted...
(Tempted to +10 her but I really need arena viable units to merge for now...)


All units are arena viable with +10 and the right build tbh.
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Yankees
07/05/18 10:43:44 PM
#433:


mcflubbin posted...
I want to post my new and improved Laslow build!

https://imgur.com/zJ3AZkn

Changes:
- Finally splurged on Quick Riposte 3
- Used the Bike I got on this banner to give him Steady Breath instead of Steady Stance 3
- Sacrificed my Lene (RIP) to give him Safeguard+
- Gave him Close Def seal instead of the flat Def seal

With the changes he now reaches 60 defense when directly attacked (43 base + 4 from Steady Breath + 7 from Safeguard + 6 from Close Def), and that's without buffs. I originally used the flat Defense +3 seal to minimize damage from Brave Lyn and other ranged threats, but typically archers and dagger users don't reach >54 attack unless they have crazy buffs. Plus the Close Def seal means he takes less damage from common dragon threats like Myrrh.

My friend ID is 4856116677 if anyone wants to use him, he's pretty much always my main hero.


That's some impressive dedication. I like it.

I sent you a friend request and added your code the google doc in the first post
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 10:45:26 PM
#434:


Yankees posted...
I don't have L'Arachel yet either. I only care so much about merging just for the arena. I'd be merging boring armors if that was the case. I'm going to build who I like.

It is done

https://imgur.com/jTstHF8

Not technically done without the refine :P
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Yankees
07/05/18 10:48:13 PM
#435:


oops. I actually have it refined, but forgot to switch it when I swapped boons/banes
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Lopen
07/05/18 10:48:33 PM
#436:


Yankees posted...
I don't have L'Arachel yet either. I only care so much about merging just for the arena. I'd be merging boring armors if that was the case. I'm going to build who I like.

It is done

https://imgur.com/jTstHF8


Haha that's literally my exact build on my +6 Soren except I have a Res Ploy 3 seal instead (and skill refine on the Wind's Brand)
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Xuxon
07/05/18 10:48:35 PM
#437:


Lopen posted...
Dark Young Link posted...
(Tempted to +10 her but I really need arena viable units to merge for now...)


All units are arena viable with +10 and the right build tbh.

especially a horse mage with decent spd and atk. there's very little she wouldn't one-round as a +10 with blarblade and horse buffs.
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Yankees
07/05/18 10:51:07 PM
#438:


Res Ploy seal also sounds nice. I haven't gotten around to upgrading that one yet.
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Lopen
07/05/18 10:56:12 PM
#439:


Well that's a +3 Speed Seal right. I could see +3 Speed being better in a lot of matchups. I just wanted double ploy cause he's a strategist so it seemed in character.

Oh I'm also running Iceberg instead of Moonbow. Not really sure which one is better. I'm flopping between Moonbow Luna Iceberg and Glacies but yeah for now it's Iceberg.
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Lopen
07/05/18 11:03:13 PM
#440:


Also I sent flubbin a friend request. Only +10 Laslow I've ever seen so props for that.
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Yankees
07/05/18 11:03:20 PM
#441:


Yeah, I can respect the double ploy. I think I like the extra speed for general arena nonsense.

I'm torn between Moonbow and Iceberg and switch sometimes. Iceberg is more consistent damage than Luna and I think Glacies is too expensive. I've got Infantry Pulse on Fae, so Iceberg is nice when they are together
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 11:08:58 PM
#442:


Lopen posted...
Dark Young Link posted...
(Tempted to +10 her but I really need arena viable units to merge for now...)


All units are arena viable with +10 and the right build tbh.


Sorry, what I meant was "And won't fuck me with BST" because I really don't want to have to deal with horses all the time.

I'd love to +10 her some day, but right now I'd really like to find a nice +10 arena core to see if I can stay in Tier 20 for once. Or at the very least make 19 > 20 simple. Recently I've been needing to score snipe and I'm not about that life. >_>
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Lopen
07/05/18 11:09:07 PM
#443:


Well, the way I see it with Glacies is you're running desperation so playing a combat and having your special with cooldown 1 remaining isn't always the worst thing as you can double hit with Glacies on hit 2 to kill really tanky targets. And as for Luna vs Iceberg my thinking is more like when you actually need the special proc to kill I feel like Luna might be better on average, even if Iceberg is dishing out better damage on average.

But yeah I'll have to actually use him more in meaningful fights to really know for sure. Specials are pretty balanced in this game now I like it.
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Lopen
07/05/18 11:10:51 PM
#444:


Dark Young Link posted...
Sorry, what I meant was "And won't fuck me with BST" because I really don't want to have to deal with horses all the time.


Well I almost never see horses and my team isn't even straight +10s.

I suppose it's possible my uneven modifiers are working to my advantage but yeah the main menaces are goddamn Nowis at this point. Although they're only really a menace in arena assault. My normal arena team can handle Nowi very easily.
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Dark Young Link
07/05/18 11:15:44 PM
#445:


Oh?

Hrm, maybe I just need a more balanced team then. Having one +10 and the rest be like +2 or 3 at the most probably hurts me more than the +10 being a mage.
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Yankees
07/05/18 11:18:23 PM
#446:


Soren is typically getting +4 res or more from ally support so that's 20 flat damage from an Iceberg regardless of the weapon triangle. I'm not sure how common it will be to fight enemies with over 40 res to matter. Probably not often enough, and Iceberg gives better reach against the triangle.

I can see Glacies having value there. They're all pretty reasonable options
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Yankees
07/05/18 11:20:29 PM
#447:


Lyn/Reinhardt are not nearly as common as they once were. And Fae deletes them both so I don't mind seeing them anymore.

I swear Nowi pops up in five or more arena assault matches routinely.
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barreldragon88
07/05/18 11:21:35 PM
#448:


I like to put Iceberg on mages. A consistent 18 damage is pretty damn good, Moonbow and Luna won't give you that consistency

My L'Arachel is +Atk/-Spd, and she would definitely make the best blue horse mage not named Reinhardt to-date, but time will tell if I do anything with her
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Lopen
07/05/18 11:26:10 PM
#449:


Yeah I actually think that's probably the right analysis of Iceberg vs Luna (hence why I'm using Iceberg and not Luna-- hell haven't even taught him Luna yet) I'm mostly just playing devil's advocate and suggesting why Luna might actually be superior once in a while. I doubt I'll ever actually try Luna unless I find some sort of deficiency with Iceberg. Moonbow I could see myself actually teaching him just for the different CD but yeah.
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Lopen
07/05/18 11:55:57 PM
#450:


Huh looks like Lyon may win

That would be pretty great
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