Board 8 > Best of the Trope Day 4: The Ascended Extra

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Johnbobb
05/30/18 11:08:51 PM
#1:


Yesterday's Results:
Piccolo - 4
Lenny Busker/Shadow King - 1
Lil Slugger - 1
Pyramid Head - 1
Eva Beatrice - 1
Nega Scott - 1
Ged/Sparrowhawk - 1
Madeline - 1
Shadow Kanji - 1

Vote on whatever character you think best embodies the trope of the day (or just for your favorite character that fits the trope). Feel free to change your vote, but if you do just specify who you're changing from and changing to. Try to include the source the character's from.

Feel free to nominate tropes for future days, preferably ones that have TV Tropes pages to make it easier. Day will end in 24 hours or so.

Full Results
Fat Best Friend - Samwise Gamgee (Lord of the Rings)
Creepy Child - Wednesday Addams (The Addams Family)
Genre Savvy - Abed Nadir (Community)
Wrong Genre Savvy - Don Quixote (Don Quixote)
Enemy Outside - Piccolo (Dragonball Z)

Nominations
The Fool
The Adjectival Man
Final Girl
Monster Clown
Human Punching Bag
Tomboy & Girly Girl
Gentle Giant
Invincible Hero
Messianic Archetype (Christ Figure)
Bare-Fisted Monk
Ensemble Dark Horse

Today's trope is the Ascended Extra
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AscendedExtra

A minor character who is given a greatly expanded role in the later part of the series, a new adaptation of a story, or in the Expanded Universe.
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Johnbobb
05/30/18 11:12:46 PM
#2:


Things likely to make an Ascended Extra

-Extremely minor book characters made main cast in movie/TV adaptations
-Minor characters that got solo spinoffs (though likely not every spinoff character would count)
-One-off characters brought back in sequels due to popularity
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Seginustemple
05/30/18 11:13:22 PM
#3:


Miles O'Brien came to mind first but I'll vote for BOB from Twin Peaks.
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Johnbobb
05/30/18 11:23:28 PM
#4:


Waluigi (Mario Bros.)

HM:
Carol Peletier (The Walking Dead)
Teddy (Bob's Burgers)
Butters (South Park)
Tormund Giantsbane (Game of Thrones)
Mike Ehrmantraut (Breaking Bad)
Doomfist (Overwatch)
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Johnbobb
05/30/18 11:29:00 PM
#5:


Carol is close for me, as she's a character that had almost no role in the first season and even less role in the comic, but then she went on to become one of the most complex and badass characters in a show that otherwise got progressively more tedious as it went on imo

But Walugi's definitely one of the best examples as well. Premiered in Mario Tennis of all things as a random character slot and now he's all but the face of the Mario spinoffs, as he's become one of the most standout parts of every Kart/Party/etc. game they release
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Jakyl25
05/31/18 12:02:39 AM
#6:


Was gonna vote for Butters, but..,

Popeye himself is perhaps the greatest example of this, actually. The comic strips he starred in began with chronicling the adventures of the Oyl family. Popeye was going to be a one arc gag, but became so popular that he ascended to the main character of the franchise.


Popeye
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Pirateking2000
05/31/18 12:05:51 AM
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Would Mr. Satan / Hercule from DBZ count?
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Jakyl25
05/31/18 12:09:09 AM
#8:


I would count him if it was up to me
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trdl23
05/31/18 12:35:59 AM
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I think I have to go with Butters (South Park). IIRC they were trying to force Tweek to be the Ascended Extra... and then everyone loved Butters instead.
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Solioxrz362
05/31/18 12:36:54 AM
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Butters is a great answer, take that as my vote.

But, that said, let's not forget about Mint Berry Crunch!
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Snake5555555555
05/31/18 12:42:30 AM
#11:


Pretty surprising how many of my favorite characters actually fit this.

Going with John Constantine (DC Comics/Hellblazer)
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trdl23
05/31/18 12:46:29 AM
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Actually, strike that. Make it Squee from Magic the Gathering. The dude was just meant for plucky comic relief as a silly goblin with impossible luck... and then as he gained popularity, he had a huge impact on the actual plot. Through various reasons, he got captured by the enemy, became literally immortal even without his ridiculous luck, unwittingly held one of the final pieces to the Legacy superweapon that saves the world, and even killed one of the most important henchmen (unintentionally).

He's still so popular that in the recent trip back to his home plane, the game designers made a new card for him... even though he has absolutely nothing to do with the current plot. And you can't effectively kill the new card, either. He just keeps coming back.
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azuarc
05/31/18 12:47:28 AM
#13:


High Overlord Saurfang
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WickIebee
05/31/18 2:49:38 AM
#14:


I would have a favorite character that fits the trope, but even then he's still kind of minor, instead... I think one option really works.

Pikachu (Pokemon)

Wasn't a big Pokemon through R/G then R/B, but the anime gave us Pikachu who became popular enough to sell Yellow, and become a poster child for the series.

For nominations, I'll roll a random trope a day... rerolling anytime I don't get one that fits a character, I mean afterall... my first one today was the Olympics. Not a character.

Nominating:
Your Size May Vary
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 7:50:15 AM
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Pirateking2000 posted...
Would Mr. Satan / Hercule from DBZ count?

yeah I'll accept it

honestly by their nature tropes are kind of open to interpretation so there's.not many I'd straight turn down
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 7:51:17 AM
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WickIebee posted...
For nominations, I'll roll a random trope a day... rerolling anytime I don't get one that fits a character, I mean afterall... my first one today was the Olympics. Not a character.

that was legitimately going to be the way I was going to handle choosing tropes before I decided on nominations instead
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TexasZea
05/31/18 7:51:31 AM
#17:


Ben Linus (Lost)
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 8:00:57 AM
#18:


Here's one more thing I'm considering:

Would anyone like opening this up to having up to 3 votes per user? To be used on separate characters, of course.

I figure this might prevent things like having just a ton of one-vote characters with low-vote winners? Let me know what you think.

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PrestonStarry2
05/31/18 8:23:05 AM
#19:


I nominate Dolph Ziggler (Professional Wrestling)

Happened twofold with Dolph Ziggler, who first appeared in WWE in 2005 as Chavo Guerrero Jr.'s caddy in the short-lived and controversial Kerwin White gimmick. Once that gimmick was canned, he reappeared as Nicky, a member of the Spirit Squad. He finally debuted as a singles wrestler with the Dolph Ziggler name in 2008, where he eventually became World Champion in 2011.
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 10:11:45 AM
#20:


Current Results
BOB - 1
Waluigi - 1
Popeye - 1
Mr. Satan - 1
Butters - 1
John Constantine - 1
Squee - 1
High Overlord Saurfang - 1
Pikachu - 1
Ben Linus - 1
Dolph Ziggler - 1
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Gatarix
05/31/18 10:21:16 AM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
John Constantine (DC Comics/Hellblazer)

I'll second Constantine since I figure Snake knows his stuff, though I didn't realize he was originally an extra/minor character.

Also three votes would be great.
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 10:42:28 AM
#22:


Looking it up, apparently John Constantine started out as a supporting character of Swamp Thing (and was originally drawn to resemble Sting)
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 10:51:06 AM
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I'm thinking I will institute the 3-vote policy starting next round (would start it today, but want to be fair to those who already voted)
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Snake5555555555
05/31/18 11:04:09 AM
#24:


I like three votes as well. Especially today, would've loved to give Harley Quinn a vote too, as her rise is one of the most meteoric of any ascended extra.
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 11:09:40 AM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
I like three votes as well. Especially today, would've loved to give Harley Quinn a vote too, as her rise is one of the most meteoric of any ascended extra.

oh yeah I completely forgot about Harley Quinn, that's definitely one of the biggest ones
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mnkboy907
05/31/18 11:25:17 AM
#26:


Castiel (Supernatural)
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paperwarior
05/31/18 11:31:15 AM
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I'm gonna take the fighting game story-only->playable route and say Answer (Guilty Gear). Raven and Johnny probably were always too significant to the story. Answer is Chipp's secretary or something.
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Solioxrz362
05/31/18 11:50:41 AM
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Johnbobb posted...
Current Results
BOB - 1
Waluigi - 1
Popeye - 1
Mr. Satan - 1
Butters - 1
John Constantine - 1
Squee - 1
High Overlord Saurfang - 1
Pikachu - 1
Ben Linus - 1
Dolph Ziggler - 1

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Johnbobb
05/31/18 12:10:45 PM
#29:


Solioxrz362 posted...
Butters should have 2.

trdl changed his vote
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 12:46:46 PM
#30:


Alright yeah I'll open it up to 3 per person today, to avoid it being like a 20-way tie at 1 point each

You may vote for up to 3 characters. You cannot vote for the same character multiple times.
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mnkboy907
05/31/18 12:47:44 PM
#31:


Margaery Tyrell (Game of Thrones)
Rory Williams (Doctor Who)
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StifledSilence
05/31/18 12:49:45 PM
#32:


Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 12:52:50 PM
#33:


@Seginustemple @Jakyl25 @Pirateking2000 @trdl23 @Snake5555555555 @azuarc @WickIebee @TexasZea @Gatarix @paperwarior

You can now vote for up to two more people if you like
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Jakyl25
05/31/18 12:55:14 PM
#34:


Butters
Steve Urkel
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Snake5555555555
05/31/18 1:00:52 PM
#35:


Harley Quinn (DC Comics)
Heather Mason (Silent Hill 3)
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Gatarix
05/31/18 1:06:12 PM
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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 1:07:42 PM
#37:


Carol Peletier
Ben Linus
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 1:17:56 PM
#38:


Current Results
Butters - 3
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern - 2
John Constantine - 2
Ben Linus - 2
BOB - 1
Waluigi - 1
Popeye - 1
Mr. Satan - 1
Squee - 1
High Overlord Saurfang - 1
Pikachu - 1
Dolph Ziggler - 1
Castiel - 1
Answer - 1
Margaery Tyrell - 1
Rory Williams - 1
Steve Urkel - 1
Harley Quinn - 1
Heather Mason - 1
Carol Peletier - 1

counting trdl's original Butters vote under the 3-vote rule, unless he comes back to vote someone else instead
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Solioxrz362
05/31/18 1:20:23 PM
#39:


I would like to add a vote for Mint Berry Crunch!
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 1:23:53 PM
#40:


Solioxrz362 posted...
I would like to add a vote for Mint Berry Crunch!

I'll accept it, though I'd argue he's more of an Ensemble Darkhorse

though they're pretty similar tropes so *shrug*
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Lopen
05/31/18 1:25:43 PM
#41:


mnkboy907 posted...
Castiel (Supernatural)


I'll go with this one
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TexWolf_1729
05/31/18 1:28:18 PM
#42:


Carol Peletier
Ben Linus
Mike Ehrmantraut
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hylianknight3
05/31/18 1:28:27 PM
#43:


Harley Quinn
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 1:38:14 PM
#44:


there we go now it's a competition
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StifledSilence
05/31/18 1:48:06 PM
#45:


Butters
Urkel
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trdl23
05/31/18 2:03:04 PM
#46:


Captain Jack Harkness (Doctor Who)
Harley Quinn
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Shonen_Bat
05/31/18 2:14:37 PM
#47:


Waluigi
Popeye
Harley Quinn
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 2:45:46 PM
#48:


Current Results
Harley Quinn - 4
Butters - 3
Ben Linus - 3
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern - 2
John Constantine - 2
Waluigi - 2
Popeye - 2
Castiel - 2
Steve Urkel - 2
Carol Peletier - 2
BOB - 1
Mr. Satan - 1
Squee - 1
High Overlord Saurfang - 1
Pikachu - 1
Dolph Ziggler - 1
Answer - 1
Margaery Tyrell - 1
Rory Williams - 1
Heather Mason - 1
Mint Berry Crunch - 1
Mike Ehrmantraut - 1
Captain Jack Harkness - 1
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Johnbobb
05/31/18 7:55:07 PM
#49:


last bump
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NFUN
05/31/18 7:56:48 PM
#50:


O'Brien
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