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I_Stay_Noided 05/15/18 2:41:20 PM #103:	>Seriously responding to djl in the year of our lord 2018 --- https://imgur.com/2vyBLJn <cite>I_Stay_Noided posted [p:901389018] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>>Seriously responding to djl in the year of our lord 2018</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 2:41:25 PM #104:	TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive. https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/ Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? darkjedilink posted... You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs. No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against. They factually are. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901389025] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive.</quote> https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/</quote> Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs.</quote> No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against.</quote> They factually are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 05/15/18 2:42:23 PM #105:	I'm not reading whatever meltdown happened in this topic, would I be correct in assuming the usual suspects were triggered by the topic's premise? --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:901389094] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>I'm not reading whatever meltdown happened in this topic, would I be correct in assuming the usual suspects were triggered by the topic's premise?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 2:43:01 PM #106:	TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive. https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/ Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? darkjedilink posted... You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs. No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against. Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901389120] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive.</quote> https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/</quote> Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs.</quote> No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against.</quote> Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 2:43:12 PM #108:	BLAKUboy posted... I'm not reading whatever meltdown happened in this topic, would I be correct in assuming the usual suspects were triggered by the topic's premise? Correct --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:901389136] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not reading whatever meltdown happened in this topic, would I be correct in assuming the usual suspects were triggered by the topic's premise?</quote> Correct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 2:43:17 PM #109:	I_Stay_Noided posted... >Seriously responding to djl in the year of our lord 2018 94 karma. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901389141] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>I_Stay_Noided posted...</cite> <quote>>Seriously responding to djl in the year of our lord 2018</quote> 94 karma.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecoolgu 05/15/18 2:45:50 PM #110:	Absolutely. Republicans or conservatives aren't a protected class. --- This signature only exists because my post would be eccentric without it. <cite>thecoolgu posted [p:901389288] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely. Republicans or conservatives aren't a protected class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 2:46:22 PM #111:	fenderbender321 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Conflict posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit. Because people like you exist. That's why we need the laws. Lol okay Reality is preferable to the ancap utopia of yours anyways. Better that laws force bakeries to treat everyone equally than have an angry bunch of gay people hire a private military firm to burn the bakery to the floor. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:901389319] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote> Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. </quote> I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times </quote> Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit. </quote> Because people like you exist. That's why we need the laws.</quote> Lol okay</quote> Reality is preferable to the ancap utopia of yours anyways. Better that laws force bakeries to treat everyone equally than have an angry bunch of gay people hire a private military firm to burn the bakery to the floor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 05/15/18 2:54:46 PM #112:	MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Political leanings aren't a legally protected class. But you already knew that when you made this bait topic. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:901389786] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote> Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Political leanings aren't a legally protected class. But you already knew that when you made this bait topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 2:56:43 PM #113:	SuperShake666 posted... MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Political leanings aren't a legally protected class. But you already knew that when you made this bait topic. The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class. --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901389890] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperShake666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote> Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Political leanings aren't a legally protected class. But you already knew that when you made this bait topic.</quote> The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/15/18 2:57:20 PM #114:	What if a gay Republican couple wants the MAGA cake for their wedding? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901389926] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>What if a gay Republican couple wants the MAGA cake for their wedding?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/15/18 2:58:15 PM #115:	The Admiral posted... What if a gay Republican couple wants the MAGA cake for their wedding? It would depend on state law. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:901389984] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>What if a gay Republican couple wants the MAGA cake for their wedding?</quote> It would depend on state law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 2:59:44 PM #116:	darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901390073] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 3:00:01 PM #117:	MedzXVIII posted... The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class. No. /topic --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901390091] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class.</quote> No. /topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 3:01:40 PM #118:	TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is? --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901390220] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 3:03:32 PM #120:	MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is? I have no idea what you're trying to ask here. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901390334] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is?</quote> I have no idea what you're trying to ask here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 3:06:46 PM #121:	TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is? I have no idea what you're trying to ask here. Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control? --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901390529] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is?</quote> I have no idea what you're trying to ask here.</quote> Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 3:08:40 PM #122:	fenderbender321 posted... Okay, now we have a problem that laws are forcing people to do business with everyone when some people might not want to. How do we fix that? If you say we don't, then you're just saying "I got what I want, fuck racists and homophobes". FTFY --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901390649] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Okay, now we have a problem that laws are forcing people to do business with everyone when some people might not want to. How do we fix that? If you say we don't, then you're just saying "I got what I want, fuck racists and homophobes".</quote> FTFY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/15/18 3:10:42 PM #123:	Don't respond to fenderbender. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:901390745] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Don't respond to fenderbender.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 3:13:34 PM #124:	MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is? I have no idea what you're trying to ask here. Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control? I honestly don't know if believing untrue things can be considered a choice or not, but it's hardly relevant to the discussion. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901390919] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is?</quote> I have no idea what you're trying to ask here.</quote> Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control?</quote> I honestly don't know if believing untrue things can be considered a choice or not, but it's hardly relevant to the discussion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 05/15/18 3:14:56 PM #125:	MedzXVIII posted... The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class. No, I don't think political leanings should be protected. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:901390996] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class.</quote> No, I don't think political leanings should be protected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 3:15:12 PM #126:	TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... They factually are. Objectively wrong. MedzXVIII posted... Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference. Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is? I have no idea what you're trying to ask here. Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control? I honestly don't know if believing untrue things can be considered a choice or not, but it's hardly relevant to the discussion. Was your choice not to believe beyond your control? --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901391013] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>They factually are.</quote> Objectively wrong. <cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>Yes one is denied service for being gay the other is denied service for being a Trump supporter</quote> Right. One is denied service for his choices, the other is denied service for a personal characteristic beyond his choice. I'm glad you understand the difference.</quote> Religion is protected. What type of choice do you say that is?</quote> I have no idea what you're trying to ask here.</quote> Is someone's religion a personal choice or a choice beyond their control?</quote> I honestly don't know if believing untrue things can be considered a choice or not, but it's hardly relevant to the discussion.</quote> Was your choice not to believe beyond your control?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 3:16:56 PM #127:	SuperShake666 posted... MedzXVIII posted... The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class. No, I don't think political leanings should be protected. Not even if a racist denies a black person and claims if was because of his political leaning? --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901391117] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>SuperShake666 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>The topic is asking if political leanings should be a protected class.</quote> No, I don't think political leanings should be protected.</quote> Not even if a racist denies a black person and claims if was because of his political leaning?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 3:21:35 PM #129:	fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901391417] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 05/15/18 3:23:59 PM #131:	fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? Never said it would but things have improved since the civil rights era so probably. fenderbender321 posted... "okay, do your thing...I don't like it, but we are all different and we should embrace diversity". Tolerate and embrace are two different things. I will never embrace racism or homophobia. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901391567] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic?</quote> Never said it would but things have improved since the civil rights era so probably. <cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>"okay, do your thing...I don't like it, but we are all different and we should embrace diversity".</quote> Tolerate and embrace are two different things. I will never embrace racism or homophobia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 3:25:13 PM #132:	fenderbender321 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. You do have access to goods. Go to the source of them. Buy your own ingredients. Make them. Perform your own services. Those are OTHER people's goods and services. You don't own them. "Gay people should do everything themselves, even when they lack the specific skills necessary." No, sorry. My right to participate in the economy overrides their desire to discriminate. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901391654] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> You do have access to goods. Go to the source of them. Buy your own ingredients. Make them. Perform your own services. Those are OTHER people's goods and services. You don't own them.</quote> "Gay people should do everything themselves, even when they lack the specific skills necessary." No, sorry. My right to participate in the economy overrides their desire to discriminate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 3:31:40 PM #133:	TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. You do have access to goods. Go to the source of them. Buy your own ingredients. Make them. Perform your own services. Those are OTHER people's goods and services. You don't own them. "Gay people should do everything themselves, even when they lack the specific skills necessary." No, sorry. My right to participate in the economy overrides their desire to discriminate. Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to, nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901392040] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> You do have access to goods. Go to the source of them. Buy your own ingredients. Make them. Perform your own services. Those are OTHER people's goods and services. You don't own them.</quote> "Gay people should do everything themselves, even when they lack the specific skills necessary." No, sorry. My right to participate in the economy overrides their desire to discriminate.</quote> Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to, nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 3:32:34 PM #134:	TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901392105] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 3:34:34 PM #135:	darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901392214] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 05/15/18 3:36:38 PM #136:	darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. So you want the Jim Crow days back is what youre really saying? Cause thats basically what the people who participated said as well. Why do gay people deserve to be treated any differently cause my god says so? Its not harming anything to sell them a fucking wedding cake. Certainly not what god thinks of you. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:901392350] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> So you want the Jim Crow days back is what youre really saying? Cause thats basically what the people who participated said as well. Why do gay people deserve to be treated any differently cause my god says so? Its not harming anything to sell them a fucking wedding cake. Certainly not what god thinks of you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 3:41:02 PM #137:	darkjedilink posted... Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. darkjedilink posted... nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. Good thing no one's doing that. darkjedilink posted... Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. No one said otherwise. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901392604] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to</quote> I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> Good thing no one's doing that. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> No one said otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 05/15/18 3:42:39 PM #138:	Yes, bakers should not be forced to bake cakes against their will. That goes for MAGA cakes or gay wedding cakes or literally anything one can conceive of. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:901392709] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Yes, bakers should not be forced to bake cakes against their will. That goes for MAGA cakes or gay wedding cakes or literally anything one can conceive of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:00:14 PM #139:	TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. darkjedilink posted... nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. Good thing no one's doing that. darkjedilink posted... Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. No one said otherwise. If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901393788] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to</quote> I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> Good thing no one's doing that. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> No one said otherwise.</quote> If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 4:01:10 PM #140:	darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. darkjedilink posted... nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. Good thing no one's doing that. darkjedilink posted... Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. No one said otherwise. If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. No, he isn't. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901393846] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to</quote> I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> Good thing no one's doing that. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> No one said otherwise.</quote> If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> No, he isn't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:01:20 PM #141:	Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901393852] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:01:36 PM #142:	Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. darkjedilink posted... nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. Good thing no one's doing that. darkjedilink posted... Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. No one said otherwise. If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. No, he isn't. How do you figure? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901393870] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to</quote> I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> Good thing no one's doing that. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> No one said otherwise.</quote> If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> No, he isn't.</quote> How do you figure?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 4:02:58 PM #143:	darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates. How so? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901393941] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates.</quote> How so?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 4:04:42 PM #144:	darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates. Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901394044] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates.</quote> Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 4:09:57 PM #145:	Djl, respond to this please: TrevorBlack79 posted... I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Then we can get into how this: darkjedilink posted... If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. is factually wrong. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901394329] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Djl, respond to this please: <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with.</quote> Then we can get into how this: <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> is factually wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:10:19 PM #146:	The Great Muta 22 posted... darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates. Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up Nice rebuttal --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901394347] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates.</quote> Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up</quote> Nice rebuttal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 4:12:15 PM #147:	darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... darkjedilink posted... Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. darkjedilink posted... nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint. Good thing no one's doing that. darkjedilink posted... Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. No one said otherwise. If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. No, he isn't. How do you figure? I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901394472] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your right to participate in the economy doesn't trump their right not to</quote> I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>nor does it entitle you to compell someone to servitude at gunpoint.</quote> Good thing no one's doing that. <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> No one said otherwise.</quote> If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> No, he isn't.</quote> How do you figure?</quote> I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:12:23 PM #148:	TrevorBlack79 posted... Djl, respond to this please: TrevorBlack79 posted... I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Then we can get into how this: darkjedilink posted... If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. is factually wrong. Merely opening a storefront does not entitle anyone to your property. You still have property rights. Or do you not understand the fundamentals of a free market? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901394480] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Djl, respond to this please: <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with.</quote> Then we can get into how this: <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> is factually wrong.</quote> Merely opening a storefront does not entitle anyone to your property. You still have property rights. Or do you not understand the fundamentals of a free market?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 4:12:46 PM #149:	darkjedilink posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else. Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes. If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally. Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates. Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up Nice rebuttal I don't care. The reason the laws exist is because people like you and others of worse mentality. And smarter people than you have voted for, and upheld, these laws. So grow up and deal with it. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901394508] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>You really think forcing people to comply is going to make people less racist or homophobic? It's not. </quote> No one cares if it makes them less racist or homophobic, we just want and deserve the same access to goods and services as everyone else.</quote> Your access to my property is dependent ENTIRELY on my wishes.</quote> If you sell goods you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> Protected classes violate the equal protection clause, as this case clearly demonstrates.</quote> Nope. And protected classes will never go away no matter how much you wish, how much you bitch and cry, and how much it pisses you off. Deal with it and grow up</quote> Nice rebuttal</quote> I don't care. The reason the laws exist is because people like you and others of worse mentality. And smarter people than you have voted for, and upheld, these laws. So grow up and deal with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 4:14:33 PM #150:	Webmaster4531 posted... I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally. So at no point is a business owner allowed to refuse service to anyone? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901394607] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> So at no point is a business owner allowed to refuse service to anyone?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 4:14:44 PM #151:	darkjedilink posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... Djl, respond to this please: TrevorBlack79 posted... I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Then we can get into how this: darkjedilink posted... If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that. is factually wrong. Merely opening a storefront does not entitle anyone to your property. You still have property rights. Or do you not understand the fundamentals of a free market? Do you not understand how businesses work? You still have to comply with the law. A complete free market where the company controls all aspects of business doesn't, has will never, exist in this country. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901394623] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>Djl, respond to this please: <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree 100%. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with.</quote> Then we can get into how this: <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>If you're arguing the baker is in the wrong, you're doing EXACTLY that.</quote> is factually wrong.</quote> Merely opening a storefront does not entitle anyone to your property. You still have property rights. Or do you not understand the fundamentals of a free market?</quote> Do you not understand how businesses work? You still have to comply with the law. A complete free market where the company controls all aspects of business doesn't, has will never, exist in this country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 4:16:00 PM #152:	darkjedilink posted... Webmaster4531 posted... I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally. So at no point is a business owner allowed to refuse service to anyone? Never said that. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901394708] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>I agree with Trevor on the first two points. They chose to participate in the economy when they opened a public-facing business, at which point they lose the right to decide who they do and do not conduct business with. Gunpoint is a huge figurative exaggeration. It's absurd. On the third, if you wish to run a business you must treat protected classes equally.</quote> So at no point is a business owner allowed to refuse service to anyone?</quote> Never said that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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