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darkjedilink 05/15/18 2:01:27 PM #51:	Conflict posted... darkjedilink posted... Cal12 posted... You cant be compelled to decorate the cake if I understand the ruling about the gay cake issue in Colorado. You just cant refuse to sell them a cake because they are gay. They didn't refuse to make them a cake. They refused to decorate it as a wedding cake. ...So they refused to make them a cake. Do you even read the shit you type or are you just typing to see characters appear on the screen They literally didn't refuse to make them a cake. They explicitly offered to make absolutely anything else other than a wedding-decorated cake. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901386759] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>You cant be compelled to decorate the cake if I understand the ruling about the gay cake issue in Colorado. You just cant refuse to sell them a cake because they are gay.</quote> They didn't refuse to make them a cake. They refused to decorate it as a wedding cake.</quote> ...So they refused to make them a cake. Do you even read the shit you type or are you just typing to see characters appear on the screen</quote> They literally didn't refuse to make them a cake. They explicitly offered to make absolutely anything else other than a wedding-decorated cake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cal12 05/15/18 2:01:51 PM #53:	darkjedilink posted... Cal12 posted... You cant be compelled to decorate the cake if I understand the ruling about the gay cake issue in Colorado. You just cant refuse to sell them a cake because they are gay. They didn't refuse to make them a cake. They refused to decorate it as a wedding cake. The decision says he refused to make the cake as soon as he found out it was for a gay wedding reception. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:901386781] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cal12 posted...</cite> <quote>You cant be compelled to decorate the cake if I understand the ruling about the gay cake issue in Colorado. You just cant refuse to sell them a cake because they are gay.</quote> They didn't refuse to make them a cake. They refused to decorate it as a wedding cake.</quote> The decision says he refused to make the cake as soon as he found out it was for a gay wedding reception.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/15/18 2:02:25 PM #55:	The business should have made the gay wedding cake, but it's even more wrong that this case (has there been more than one of them?) turned into a big lawsuit that got the couple a ton of money. This should have been a local thing where the business got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways - and the couple should have just went somewhere else. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901386817] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>The business should have made the gay wedding cake, but it's even more wrong that this case (has there been more than one of them?) turned into a big lawsuit that got the couple a ton of money. This should have been a local thing where the business got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways - and the couple should have just went somewhere else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 2:04:42 PM #58:	darkjedilink posted... eston posted... I think what he's saying is that there isn't anything about a gay wedding cake that makes it intrinsically different from a straight wedding cake. I mean unless they wanted a bunch of gay stuff on it, obviously. It doesn't seem like it should be all that relevant to the baker. Two dudes at the top is intrinsically different. No it's not. That is two plastic figurines that are placed on top after the cake has been completed. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:901386942] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I think what he's saying is that there isn't anything about a gay wedding cake that makes it intrinsically different from a straight wedding cake. I mean unless they wanted a bunch of gay stuff on it, obviously. It doesn't seem like it should be all that relevant to the baker.</quote> Two dudes at the top is intrinsically different.</quote> No it's not. That is two plastic figurines that are placed on top after the cake has been completed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 2:05:25 PM #59:	If walmart can do it... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142555/Walmart-store-bakes-man-ISIS-cake-refusing-ice-Confederate-flag-design.html --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901386980] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>If walmart can do it... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142555/Walmart-store-bakes-man-ISIS-cake-refusing-ice-Confederate-flag-design.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 2:05:59 PM #60:	fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901387011] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 05/15/18 2:06:47 PM #62:	darkjedilink posted... Nope. If you are going to disagree, then explain why. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:901387053] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> Nope.</quote> If you are going to disagree, then explain why.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 05/15/18 2:07:53 PM #64:	Should a baker be forced to bake a NAMBLA cake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9ORCrNB8o" data-time=" --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901387123] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Should a baker be forced to bake a NAMBLA cake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT9ORCrNB8o" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/15/18 2:09:14 PM #66:	Yes a baker can refuse to make that cake, its not illegal to do so. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 <cite>Offworlder1 posted [p:901387194] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Yes a baker can refuse to make that cake, its not illegal to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cal12 05/15/18 2:09:39 PM #67:	MedzXVIII posted... If walmart can do it... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142555/Walmart-store-bakes-man-ISIS-cake-refusing-ice-Confederate-flag-design.html That story is a fucking set up. I can guarantee you 99% of Walmart employees would not be able to identify the Isis battle flag. I didnt know until that article. Talk about bullshit click bait. <cite>Cal12 posted [p:901387219] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote>If walmart can do it... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3142555/Walmart-store-bakes-man-ISIS-cake-refusing-ice-Confederate-flag-design.html</quote> That story is a fucking set up. I can guarantee you 99% of Walmart employees would not be able to identify the Isis battle flag. I didnt know until that article. Talk about bullshit click bait.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 2:09:53 PM #68:	fenderbender321 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar. (in other words, they cost society more than they give back). Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901387233] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar.</quote> (in other words, they cost society more than they give back).</quote> Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 05/15/18 2:10:39 PM #70:	eston posted... darkjedilink posted... eston posted... I think what he's saying is that there isn't anything about a gay wedding cake that makes it intrinsically different from a straight wedding cake. I mean unless they wanted a bunch of gay stuff on it, obviously. It doesn't seem like it should be all that relevant to the baker. Two dudes at the top is intrinsically different. No it's not. That is two plastic figurines that are placed on top after the cake has been completed. What they could do is just not carry any same sex toppers. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:901387268] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I think what he's saying is that there isn't anything about a gay wedding cake that makes it intrinsically different from a straight wedding cake. I mean unless they wanted a bunch of gay stuff on it, obviously. It doesn't seem like it should be all that relevant to the baker.</quote> Two dudes at the top is intrinsically different.</quote> No it's not. That is two plastic figurines that are placed on top after the cake has been completed.</quote> What they could do is just not carry any same sex toppers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/15/18 2:11:14 PM #71:	BTW with the original gay wedding cake case what was the interaction between the businesses and the customer? Were they both courteous or not? Because that would change everything IMO. If they refused to make the cake but were courteous about it, they would be much more in the right. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901387298] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>BTW with the original gay wedding cake case what was the interaction between the businesses and the customer? Were they both courteous or not? Because that would change everything IMO. If they refused to make the cake but were courteous about it, they would be much more in the right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 05/15/18 2:14:44 PM #74:	There's a difference between refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding and refusing to making a wedding cake for a gay customer. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901387486] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>There's a difference between refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding and refusing to making a wedding cake for a gay customer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 2:17:10 PM #76:	It's wild how empowered Trump toadies feel about over throwing anti discrimination laws just so they can openly hate people under the guise of "muh 1st amendement". Transparent assholes --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901387618] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>It's wild how empowered Trump toadies feel about over throwing anti discrimination laws just so they can openly hate people under the guise of "muh 1st amendement". Transparent assholes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 05/15/18 2:17:12 PM #77:	Damn_Underscore posted... There's a difference between refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding and refusing to making a wedding cake for a gay customer. There's a difference between making a gay wedding cake and making a wedding cake for a gay wedding. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:901387620] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>There's a difference between refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding and refusing to making a wedding cake for a gay customer.</quote> There's a difference between making a gay wedding cake and making a wedding cake for a gay wedding.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 2:20:26 PM #81:	fenderbender321 posted... Conflict posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit. Because people like you exist. That's why we need the laws. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901387766] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times</quote> Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit.</quote> Because people like you exist. That's why we need the laws.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 2:21:12 PM #82:	fenderbender321 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar. (in other words, they cost society more than they give back). Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society. literally not even civil rights we're discussing. Your teachers should be ashamed. Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations, and private individuals. They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901387793] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar.</quote> (in other words, they cost society more than they give back).</quote> Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society.</quote> literally not even civil rights we're discussing.</quote> Your teachers should be ashamed. Civil and political rights are a class of rights that protect individuals' freedom from infringement by governments, social organizations, and private individuals. They ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the society and state without discrimination or repression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 2:22:38 PM #83:	fenderbender321 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar. (in other words, they cost society more than they give back). Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society. literally not even civil rights we're discussing. Let me guess, you thought Civil Rights only had to do with race? Yeesh --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901387875] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yeah, you definitely lowered the bar.</quote> (in other words, they cost society more than they give back).</quote> Yeah, civil rights are so bad for society.</quote> literally not even civil rights we're discussing.</quote> Let me guess, you thought Civil Rights only had to do with race? Yeesh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 2:22:38 PM #84:	fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901387876] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/15/18 2:22:46 PM #85:	But that's the reason why there is even an argument about this. If you asked a bakery to make a cake that says "Fuck You!", most of them will probable refuse. If a baker who doesn't like Donald Trump refuses to make a pro-Trump cake, that's fine too. Just go to another bakery. A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays. But apparently that baker didn't agree. Once again, this should have been a local issue where the bakery got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901387884] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>But that's the reason why there is even an argument about this. If you asked a bakery to make a cake that says "Fuck You!", most of them will probable refuse. If a baker who doesn't like Donald Trump refuses to make a pro-Trump cake, that's fine too. Just go to another bakery. A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays. But apparently that baker didn't agree. Once again, this should have been a local issue where the bakery got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 2:24:33 PM #86:	Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901387993] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 05/15/18 2:25:36 PM #87:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Including the Muslim faith. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia <cite>Caution999 posted [p:901388055] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Including the Muslim faith.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 2:26:46 PM #88:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Including the Muslim faith. Yeah? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901388126] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Including the Muslim faith.</quote> Yeah?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/15/18 2:27:10 PM #89:	The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Well that means most Americans are fine with it. And the % will increase as time goes on. Remember that as recently as 2008, California voted to ban gay marriage in the state. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901388147] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Well that means most Americans are fine with it. And the % will increase as time goes on. Remember that as recently as 2008, California voted to ban gay marriage in the state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 2:27:57 PM #90:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Including the Muslim faith. When did you start caring about what Muslims feel? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:901388186] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote> A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays </quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Including the Muslim faith.</quote> When did you start caring about what Muslims feel?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 05/15/18 2:28:42 PM #91:	Damn_Underscore posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Well that means most Americans are fine with it. And the % will increase as time goes on. Remember that as recently as 2008, California voted to ban gay marriage in the state. That's more like "more" than "most". --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:901388231] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Well that means most Americans are fine with it. And the % will increase as time goes on. Remember that as recently as 2008, California voted to ban gay marriage in the state.</quote> That's more like "more" than "most".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 05/15/18 2:29:30 PM #92:	TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive. https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/ --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:901388274] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive.</quote> https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 2:30:19 PM #93:	Conflict posted... Damn_Underscore posted... BTW with the original gay wedding cake case what was the interaction between the businesses and the customer? Were they both courteous or not? Because that would change everything IMO. If they refused to make the cake but were courteous about it, they would be much more in the right. No, that wouldn't change jack shit lol. You refuse to make a cake (ANY kind of cake) because of sexual orientation, it's discrimination and you have no case. No matter how "courteous" you are. Why is sexual orientation the cutoff and not, say, religious affiliation? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901388316] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>BTW with the original gay wedding cake case what was the interaction between the businesses and the customer? Were they both courteous or not? Because that would change everything IMO. If they refused to make the cake but were courteous about it, they would be much more in the right.</quote> No, that wouldn't change jack shit lol. You refuse to make a cake (ANY kind of cake) because of sexual orientation, it's discrimination and you have no case. No matter how "courteous" you are.</quote> Why is sexual orientation the cutoff and not, say, religious affiliation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/15/18 2:30:55 PM #94:	Caution999 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted... Damn_Underscore posted... A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi Including the Muslim faith. This says different than the 40% number from Pew, but: https://www.prri.org/spotlight/religious-americans-same-sex-marriage-service-refusals/ Majority of US Muslims approve. But that's okay, keep being a shitposter. Edit: Excuse me, more approve than disapprove. Either way, point still stands --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901388349] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Caution999 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays</quote> Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi</quote> Including the Muslim faith.</quote> This says different than the 40% number from Pew, but: https://www.prri.org/spotlight/religious-americans-same-sex-marriage-service-refusals/ Majority of US Muslims approve. But that's okay, keep being a shitposter. Edit: Excuse me, more approve than disapprove. Either way, point still stands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/18 2:31:20 PM #95:	Conflict posted... fenderbender321 posted... Conflict posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit. I just don't approve of discrimination. Maybe I'm just weird like that. This is a lie. You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901388369] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Conflict posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> I think businesses not being able to refuse service based on things like sexual orientation and race is a massive progression from old times</quote> Why does everything have to be tied to laws in terms of how we measure and reward progress? IMO it's a disgusting and costly habit.</quote> I just don't approve of discrimination. Maybe I'm just weird like that.</quote> This is a lie. You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JE19426 05/15/18 2:33:02 PM #97:	Webmaster4531 posted... That's more like "more" than "most". 60% is most. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:901388484] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>That's more like "more" than "most". </quote> 60% is most.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 2:34:05 PM #98:	JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... That's more like "more" than "most". 60% is most. That's more like "some". --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:901388561] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote> That's more like "more" than "most". </quote> 60% is most.</quote> That's more like "some".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TrevorBlack79 05/15/18 2:36:33 PM #100:	MedzXVIII posted... TrevorBlack79 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly. Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive. https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/ Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? darkjedilink posted... You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs. No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against. --- "a minority is someone who you can tell off the bat they are black/hispanic/colored. LGBT isn't a minority" - Blakkheim1 <cite>TrevorBlack79 posted [p:901388731] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TrevorBlack79 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Can you guys believe this is where we're at with entitlement in this country? "I am entitled to the cakes you make!" Holy shit we have regressed horribly.</quote> Yes, customers are allowed to use businesses open to the public. How horribly regressive.</quote> https://nypost.com/2018/04/25/judge-bars-are-allowed-to-throw-out-trump-supporters/</quote> Do you understand the difference between this and gay people being denied service exclusively for being gay? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>You're actually discriminating against the baker's religious beliefs.</quote> No, the baker's religious beliefs are factually not being discriminated against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 05/15/18 2:37:58 PM #101:	A_Good_Boy posted... JE19426 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... That's more like "more" than "most". 60% is most. That's more like "some". In some situations, 60% is considered a super-majority. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:901388824] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>JE19426 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote> That's more like "more" than "most". </quote> 60% is most.</quote> That's more like "some".</quote> In some situations, 60% is considered a super-majority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilove4chan 05/15/18 2:39:36 PM #102:	Looks like people that don't understand the law posted in this topic pretty frequently. --- i actually don't love 4chan NYM - PM me for LL/ETI <cite>Ilove4chan posted [p:901388920] in Can a bake... [t:76609890]...</cite> <quote>Looks like people that don't understand the law posted in this topic pretty frequently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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