Poll of the Day > UFC Fighter Waterboards HIMSELF to prove to LIBERALS that it's NOT TORTURE!!!

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UFC Jerk, and former Army Special Forces veteran Tim Kennedy claims that Waterboarding is NOT torture as he waterboards HIMSELF in an attempt to disprove liberals that it is "torturous"!!

He released a video of himself lying on a table with a cloth over his face and no restraints in a backyard with water being poured on his face. The stunt was recorded on his phone while a man holds a hose from a height and poured on his face

He said "We did this yesteray for almost 45 minutes" and said that the "waterboarding" lasted for 30 minutes with plenty of breaks so he could cheerily address the camera and said "It was a baptism in freedom. it's not torture! Hell we had elk tacos and wine afterwards. Wake up people. #waterboarding"

He's a former Green Beret who showed support for Trump and CIA pick Gina Haspel after she ran a secret prison in Thailand and other CIA Blacksites to torture prisoners but pledged not to in the future...even though Trump says they have to get TOUGH and seems to have approved it

But many criticized his attempts to triviliaze waterboarding considering he did it in a safe, controlled environment and unrestrained and free to stop or pull the cloth off at any time as he cannot compare the severe psychological and often physical trauma upon waterboarding.

One person said "Wrong. That's not how it's done. you're just holding your breath" said by Malcolm Nance, a counter terrorism expert.

People have said it's a "commie/nazi" torture technique that no western country should adopt as many said some cases of these peope being tortured are innocent and cleared of terrorist charges when no information was given

Senate reports that suspects were forced into tiny boxes for hours, deprived of sleep for days and fed by rectal rehydration and left in stress positions!!

Still, the 38 y/o who served overseas still supports waterboarding and says that liberals are making it out like it's an "evil" technique when he says it in fact works and gets them valuable information when terrorists begin to talk after being waterboarded..

He's a friend of infowars, Alex Jones and said he will GLADLY torture anyone by waterboarding if it means getting valuable information.

Do you support waterboarding?

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It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.
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Zeus posted...

It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.

It's rather effective, but there is a percentage of people who are outright immune to it since it doesn't trigger a panic response
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Dick Cheney needs to be rotting in a prison cell for his blatant war crimes.

If he was smart he'd get off the talk shows and go back in his hole.

Waterboarding was the least of what the US did for torture. They told the victims their families would be raped, they killed some guy after drenching him in water and letting him sit in a damp cell all night, they did sleep deprivation, and "anal feeding" (anal rape). Waterboarding is for some reason the only one we talk about.
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I support whatever gets the job done. but one tactic probably doesn't work on everyone. if its obviously not working try something else because at that point your doing it just for the power trip.
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I support many forms of torture.
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Glad my neighbours to the south are having important political debates like "is torture okay", and "do we have a gun problem", along with "should poor people be allowed to go to the hospital".
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iYellow posted...

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Dick Cheney needs to be rotting in a prison cell for his blatant war crimes.

If he was smart he'd get off the talk shows and go back in his hole.

Waterboarding was the least of what the US did for torture. They told the victims their families would be raped, they killed some guy after drenching him in water and letting him sit in a damp cell all night, they did sleep deprivation, and "anal feeding" (anal rape). Waterboarding is for some reason the only one we talk about.

Not to mention that the US may not have "tortured," but they would turn prisoners over to other regimes for torture. Extraordinary rendition pretty much existed solely to give the US deniability while allowing it to order torture.
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So basically, it's only illegal if the peasants do it
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mrduckbear posted...

UFC Jerk, and former Army Special Forces veteran Tim Kennedy

Last time I checked hes still active duty.

Zeus posted...

It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.

Ive only seen it done once in person, and Im pretty sure it was illegal, but it seemed pretty effective.

It was just on a training exercise though.
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Cacciato posted...

Ive only seen it done once in person,

I think they water board Navy Seals to prepare them for it 'cuz it's one of those things you can build resistance to over time
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Lokarin posted...

Cacciato posted...

Ive only seen it done once in person,

I think they water board Navy Seals to prepare them for it 'cuz it's one of those things you can build resistance to over time

I wouldnt know since I didnt do any SERE training, I know pilots that do the basic one but its not particularly difficult.

The one I saw was on a field exercise and basically the command took it a step too far and the guy didnt pursue it like he could have.
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No idea who that guy is
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I'd be perfectly okay with torture if it got results.

But there's been more than a few instances where it merely resulted in the person lying to get out of it. Go figure.
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

I'd be perfectly okay with torture if it got results.

But there's been more than a few instances where it merely resulted in the person lying to get out of it. Go figure.

and thats when you hold them until you confirm if what they told you is the truth or not.
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I'd be perfectly okay with torture if it got results.

But there's been more than a few instances where it merely resulted in the person lying to get out of it. Go figure.

and thats when you hold them until you confirm if what they told you is the truth or not.

And if they have no valuable info you just tortured someone for no reason. Yeah great idea.

Zeus posted...

It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.

Then you don't understand what it is.
This guy is doing it 100% wrong.
He's comfortable, he's holding his breath, he's not being beaten within an inch of his life for days on end, and he has full control over when to stop (hence why the video is so short).

This guy is an uneducated shit talker, which is surprising because if he was in the military you'd think he'd know what torture was...

Lil69Leo posted...

mooreandrew58 posted...

Krow_Incarnate posted...

I'd be perfectly okay with torture if it got results.

But there's been more than a few instances where it merely resulted in the person lying to get out of it. Go figure.

and thats when you hold them until you confirm if what they told you is the truth or not.

And if they have no valuable info you just tortured someone for no reason. Yeah great idea.

war sucks, but thats how it is, people gonna suffer. now I don't want them ever doing shit like this to civilians. thats the line i'd draw.

edit: i've also already mentioned that if it doesn't get results after a certain point, then its pointless to continue the torture.
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Terrorists should be tortured then executed. They have no honour and deserve to be treated without mercy or respect. Taking some false moral high ground only gives the bad guys an advantage.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Terrorists should be tortured then executed. They have no honour and deserve to be treated without mercy or respect. Taking some false moral high ground only gives the bad guys an advantage.

kinda how I feel. in war I feel we should be willing to do whatever the enemy is willing to do to us. provided it gets good results anyways. some actions there is literally nothing to be gained.
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Waterboarding is deliberately used as torture though, the best you could argue is you think it's not that bad of a torture compared to other types of torture.

Also, one of the things about waterboarding is when used in a real scenario, the person being subjected to it has no control over when it begins and ends, so doing it in a scenario where you get to stop at any time you feel like circumvents the entire part that's scary.
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TigerTycoon posted...

Waterboarding is deliberately used as torture though, the best you could argue is you think it's not that bad of a torture compared to other types of torture.

Also, one of the things about waterboarding is when used in a real scenario, the person being subjected to it has no control over when it begins and ends, so doing it in a scenario where you get to stop at any time you feel like circumvents the entire part that's scary.

despite how I feel in regards to if we use torture or not, I agree with the last part of your post.
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knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.

Then you don't understand what it is.
This guy is doing it 100% wrong.
He's comfortable, he's holding his breath, he's not being beaten within an inch of his life for days on end, and he has full control over when to stop (hence why the video is so short).

This guy is an uneducated shit talker, which is surprising because if he was in the military you'd think he'd know what torture was...

Being in the military doesnt mean hed know what torture was. But being active duty as a special operations soldier, which he is, its expected that hed have better access to more accurate resources, especially since hes a minor celebrity in the military.
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Cacciato posted...

knivesX2004 posted...

Zeus posted...

It's one of those things I almost kinda want to try just to see if it's actually as bad as it's been hyperbolically been portrayed on Archer, etc.

Then you don't understand what it is.
This guy is doing it 100% wrong.
He's comfortable, he's holding his breath, he's not being beaten within an inch of his life for days on end, and he has full control over when to stop (hence why the video is so short).

This guy is an uneducated shit talker, which is surprising because if he was in the military you'd think he'd know what torture was...

Being in the military doesnt mean hed know what torture was. But being active duty as a special operations soldier, which he is, its expected that hed have better access to more accurate resources, especially since hes a minor celebrity in the military.

Given he's doing the whole thing to show bias and a agenda it's clear he doesn't give a shit about being accurate.

It's not that waterboarding is more or less effective than any other form of torture, it's that it can be readily performed by anyone, anywhere, with little to no special training, and doesn't leave "evidence" on the body... which means you can deny you ever did it to someone
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Terrorists should be tortured then executed. They have no honour and deserve to be treated without mercy or respect. Taking some false moral high ground only gives the bad guys an advantage.

Why would you torture someone then execute them? You torture for info. If youre just going to kill them anyway then youre wasting your time with the torture.
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It's been proven in studies that torture is ineffective in gaining information, if you wish that information to be accurate. Instead, torture is more about the gratification of the person(s) doing it.

So no, I do not support any form of torture. I support proper results.
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If it wasn't torture it wouldn't be done.
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