Current Events > Lmao did Goggalor close his pretentious writing topic after his own was posted

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silentwing26x posted...

@_Goggalor_

dont you think it's arrogant to bash experienced well-regarded authors? youre just starting out, so you should accept feedback and learn as much as possible. that way youll become better faster

It could be perceived that way, but I really genuinely think those authors are bad writers. I don't find anything good about their work. I can't take it seriously after reading classic lit. I'm reading Swann's Way right now, and my God it's just so much better written. I aspire to write like Proust, not Sanderson or King or Martin. I'm not saying no one can like them, but I don't and never will. Their work does nothing for me because I find beauty in language and words themselves as well as the story they tell.
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Here's an idea: how about we don't use a synonym at all in that sentence. Let's just cut the sentence off at "crimson."

Damn, I'm a good writer.
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It's not just the blood thing, it's most of the paragraph

I can get overwriting certain paragraphs but that was borderline unreadable. My mind kept telling me as I read it that the sentence should be over at that point, but it just kept carrying on. Like out of this;

A sweeping blade of flashing steel riveted from the massive barbarians hide enameled shield as his rippling right arm thrust forth, sending a steel shod blade to the hilt into the soldiers vital organs. The disemboweled mercenary crumpled from his saddle and sank to the clouded sward, sprinkling the parched dust with crimson droplets of escaping life fluid.

...only the bolded really works for me. Everything else just keeps running on because it unnecessary extends itself to the point where it's annoying to read

Shouldn't the impact of the word (blood) be defined by what's happening surrounding the concept? You don't need adjectives to make it impactful or meaningful
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While I haven't said anything about goggalor's family issues and will continue to remain neutral on that matter.

The shit he is getting for his books and writing ability is 100% deserved.
Act like a pretentious dick get treated like a pretentious dick.
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Anteaterking posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Blood, blood, blood, blood, blood, blood. Why on earth would you use the same word to describe something over and over again? Synonyms exist for a f***ing reason.

Because otherwise it sounds overwritten.

The same reason why you it gets tedious to read "______," said person adverbly over and over again in dialogue.

I find "he said" type dialogue exchanges mind numbingly tedious. I think most modern prose is actually underwritten. That's my preference. I like long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's an idea: how about we don't use a synonym at all in that sentence. Let's just cut the sentence off at "crimson."

Damn, I'm a good writer.

But that's boring. It's underwritten and simplistic imo.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's an idea: how about we don't use a synonym at all in that sentence. Let's just cut the sentence off at "crimson."

Damn, I'm a good writer.

You just turned an abortion of a sentence into something passable.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Here's an idea: how about we don't use a synonym at all in that sentence. Let's just cut the sentence off at "crimson."

Damn, I'm a good writer.

But that's boring. It's underwritten and simplistic imo.

But synecdoche
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Look, if you like short, simple sentences, that's up to you. I don't like that style of writing and never will. That's all there is to it. I like long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary. I'll always love words. There's beauty in language and in how a sentence can flow using varied word choice.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

I find "he said" type dialogue exchanges mind numbingly tedious. I think most modern prose is actually underwritten. That's my preference. I like long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary.

"Long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary" is also an easy go to for the pretentious unskilled writer who thinks more writing=better writing and therefore fills their work with purple prose with story concepts that present themselves as deep but are actually shallower than pulp fantasy, so don't be surprised if your pining for it makes people project other things on to you and your writing.
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Anteaterking posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

I find "he said" type dialogue exchanges mind numbingly tedious. I think most modern prose is actually underwritten. That's my preference. I like long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary.

"Long, intricate sentences with varied vocabulary" is also an easy go to for the pretentious unskilled writer who thinks more writing=better writing and therefore fills their work with purple prose with story concepts that present themselves as deep but are actually shallower than pulp fantasy, so don't be surprised if your pining for it makes people project other things on to you and your writing.

So you honestly think Proust sucks? Yeah, I can't take you seriously.
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You should write a book about how you destroyed your apar-

Konflikt posted...

You should write a non-fiction work about how your life is so pathetic that you literally trashed your entire apartment suite

Oh...
Beat me to it.
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ASithLord7 posted...

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Really, those two sentences are fine as ideas

Barbarian attacks soldier (by drawing his sword from behind his shield)
Dead soldier falls off horse (and sprays the ground with his blood)

But those ideas are hopelessly obfuscated by the delivery. The priorities in writing should be ideas, then clarity, then entertainment

How about (and this is just a shitty spitball)

With a mighty cry, the barbarian drew his blade, and forcefully sheathed it in the soldier before him. His foe gurgled momentarily before sliding out of his saddle, bleeding like a fountain.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

So you honestly think Proust sucks? Yeah, I can't take you seriously.

I didn't say Proust sucks.
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Tag
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The real crime here is people using 10 posts per page.
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Alkaloid posted...

Really, those two sentences are fine as ideas

Barbarian attacks soldier (by drawing his sword from behind his shield)
Dead soldier falls off horse (and sprays the ground with his blood)

But those ideas are hopelessly obfuscated by the delivery. The priorities in writing should be ideas, then clarity, then entertainment

How about (and this is just a shitty spitball)

With a mighty cry, the barbarian drew his blade, and forcefully sheathed it in the soldier before him. His foe gurgled momentarily before sliding out of his saddle, bleeding like a fountain.

I think the whole concept is stupid, as I hate high fantasy as a genre, but it could be spruced up with a more complex sentence structure and words that give it more of an identity to stand out from the tons of other samey stories.
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The real tragedy here is that you don't use 50 posts per
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Anteaterking posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

So you honestly think Proust sucks? Yeah, I can't take you seriously.

I didn't say Proust sucks.

Well his whole thing is long (Some are half a page long), intricate sentences and he uses a lot of varied vocabulary.
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Amateur tip: you should write the sentence in whatever fashion fits. Use the flow of a sentence to accompany the events in the story or the way a character speaks, etc.

A cool example of that, along with other zany things, is found in House of Leaves. There is a section of the book that has short sentences that are spaced out to have them be on their own pages. This means you flip through pages quickly as you read them and that pace matches the frantic action that is occurring in the story. Something like that specifically is more of a gimmick, but using short sentences with straightforward wording will let the reader go through them quickly and picks up the pace or emphasizes some of the wording more than usual.
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I don't see how you can criticize modern authors when you know virtually nothing about modern lit. You're not very well-read.
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A cool example of that, along with other zany things, is found in House of Leaves. There is a section of the book that has short sentences that are spaced out to have them be on their own pages. This means you flip through pages quickly as you read them and that pace matches the frantic action that is occurring in the story. Something like that specifically is not of a gimmick, but using short sentences with straightforward wording will let the reader go through them quickly and picks up the pace or emphasizes some of the wording more than usual.

Oooh that sounds neat as hell.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Anteaterking posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

So you honestly think Proust sucks? Yeah, I can't take you seriously.

I didn't say Proust sucks.

Well his whole thing is long (Some are half a page long), intricate sentences and he uses a lot of varied vocabulary.

Ok, but stay with me here.
Good writing isn't defined one way or the other by long, intricate sentences and varied vocabulary.
Length of sentence and use of vocabulary is a stylistic choice and can be executed well or poorly.
The greats are not greats because of their sentence structure, but because they did it well.

Good writing can be short and simplistic. Good writing can also be long and complex.

Bad writing can be long and complex.
Bad writing can also be short and simplistic.
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davyheinz posted...

Amateur tip: you should write the sentence in whatever fashion fits. Use the flow of a sentence to accompany the events in the story or the way a character speaks, etc.

A cool example of that, along with other zany things, is found in House of Leaves. There is a section of the book that has short sentences that are spaced out to have them be on their own pages. This means you flip through pages quickly as you read them and that pace matches the frantic action that is occurring in the story. Something like that specifically is more of a gimmick, but using short sentences with straightforward wording will let the reader go through them quickly and picks up the pace or emphasizes some of the wording more than usual.

I don't find that entertaining personally. PERSONALLY. As in, to ME, that's not fun to read.
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marthsheretoo posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Anteaterking posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

So you honestly think Proust sucks? Yeah, I can't take you seriously.

I didn't say Proust sucks.

Well his whole thing is long (Some are half a page long), intricate sentences and he uses a lot of varied vocabulary.

Ok, but stay with me here.
Good writing isn't defined one way or the other by long, intricate sentences and varied vocabulary.
Length of sentence and use of vocabulary is a stylistic choice and can be executed well or poorly.
The greats are not greats because of their sentence structure, but because they did it well.

Good writing can be short and simplistic. Good writing can also be long and complex.

Bad writing can be long and complex.
Bad writing can also be short and simplistic.

And I'm saying I prefer the long, verbose style and think it takes more talent.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

And I'm saying I prefer the long, verbose style and think it takes more talent.

That makes you look incredibly ignorant and just proves that your "brilliant literary genius" is a delusion.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Well his whole thing is long (Some are half a page long), intricate sentences and he uses a lot of varied vocabulary.

I said people who try to emulate writing like his usually suck. Mainly because they think it's a "short cut" to writing well.

_Goggalor_ posted...

and think it takes more talent.

It takes more talent to do it well. It doesn't take more talent to do it. This is the whole idea of purple prose.
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have a chat with the birds if you dare

I lol'd at this so hard

_Goggalor_ posted...

And I'm saying I prefer the long, verbose style and think it takes more talent.

You're also calling a lot of popular authors bad for using the other style, and indirectly calling fans of those authors dumb for liking them.

Having preferences is fine. You went a bit farther than that.
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this is the same clown that thinks he's above speeding laws. lmao
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Why are adjectives bad? Seriously, there's more than one way to say something. Language shouldn't be repetitive.
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Wedge Antilles posted...

It didn't dawn on me at first, but after rereading that topic, I realized Goggalor is Brian Griffin.

I was thinking the same thing

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

If that's what you want to tell yourself........

_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

lmfao is that really gonna be your lifelong excuse as to why you havent found any success in writing? that youre not willing to dumb down your incredible writing so it will appeal to the unwashed masses?

your arrogance and denial of reality is incredible bro

Bishop9800 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

If that's what you want to tell yourself........

I want to explore philosophical themes and use complex, varied word structure and vocabulary. No " he said, she said" underwritten bs.
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_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

Bishop9800 posted...

Wedge Antilles posted...

It didn't dawn on me at first, but after rereading that topic, I realized Goggalor is Brian Griffin.

I was thinking the same thing

Lmao he has to be doing this on purpose

_Goggalor_ posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

If that's what you want to tell yourself........

I want to explore philosophical themes and use complex, varied word structure and vocabulary. No " he said, she said" underwritten bs.

Once again, whatever you want to tell yourself......

Bishop9800 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Bishop9800 posted...

_Goggalor_ posted...

Whatever. I don't care if I ever get published if it means keeping artistic integrity by not writing simplistic garbage.

If that's what you want to tell yourself........

I want to explore philosophical themes and use complex, varied word structure and vocabulary. No " he said, she said" underwritten bs.

Once again, whatever you want to tell yourself......

I'm telling you. If you like garbage, that's on you and theres a ton of it out there. So enjoy I guess. Actual good writers like Dostoevsky are rolling in their graves though.
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Love it when CE gangs up against a shitposter like gog.
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LightningAce11 posted...

Love it when CE gangs up against a shitposter like gog.

"I like bullying"
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UnfairRepresent posted...

LightningAce11 posted...

Love it when CE gangs up against a shitposter like gog.

"I like bullying"

Basically
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LightningAce11 posted...

Love it when CE gangs up against a shitposter like gog.

hes not just a shitposter, hes a shit person all around - both on here and irl apparently

The destroyed topic creator crumpled from his chair and sank to the clouded sward, sprinkling the parched carpet with clear droplets of escaping salt fluid.
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Darmik posted...

The destroyed topic creator crumpled from his chair and sank to the clouded sward, sprinkling the parched carpet with clear droplets of escaping salt fluid.

Lmao
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