Poll of the Day > So while our government decided to start bombing more people yet again...

(+) Yeah! (+)

...I don't get how you think THOSE SAME PEOPLE should be in charge of your safety.

"You civilians..."

*shoots children*

"...cannot be trusted..."

*drone strikes*

"...with military weapons"

*bombs people*

I'm also for the sale of military grade drones and bombs to the public.

I'm going to write my Congress person now and let them know.
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I guess maybe you guys somehow think because they chose foreigners this time that they view you any differently. Like they won't kill you at a moment's notice.

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VioletZer0 posted...

*drone strikes*

Cletus' semi-auto rifle is definitely a good deterrent to drone strikes.

What prompted you to switch gimmicks?
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The people must be armed and organized. Every citizen has a right to be armed with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition.

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the people must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

-James Madison

Note the "cannons" there. Bombers, drones and missiles are the cannons of the modern era. Thus, per the spirit of the second amendment, the people should have a right to those weapons.
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Grendel posted...

VioletZer0 posted...

*drone strikes*

Cletus' semi-auto rifle is definitely a good deterrent to drone strikes.

Muhammad's rifle seems to be pretty good at hanging in there against drone strikes.

VioletZer0 posted...

Muhammad's rifle seems to be pretty good at hanging in there against drone strikes.

Right I forgot about all those drones that were shot down by AK-47s.

ZeldaMutant posted...

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the people must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

This is actually a quote from Karl Marx.

Grendel posted...

VioletZer0 posted...

Muhammad's rifle seems to be pretty good at hanging in there against drone strikes.

Right I forgot about all those drones that were shot down by AK-47s.

The point is that they're still around.

SmokeMassTree posted...

this is what i was thinking reading OP

u on drugs
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Allow me to sum it up.

Our government is presently murdering people overseas in an offensive war while saying that we should trust them with our safety.

They're saying that we can't trust citizens with military weapons, while they go around murdering people with military weapons.

VioletZer0 posted...

They're saying that we can't trust citizens with military weapons

i thought your government was all for civilians having assault rifles to "defend themselves"

or have i missed something
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FatalAccident posted...

VioletZer0 posted...

They're saying that we can't trust citizens with military weapons

i thought your government was all for civilians having assault rifles to "defend themselves"

or have i missed something

-In theory- they're supposed to be in favor it because they're sworn to protect the Constitution.

However it is clear they wish to disarm citizens to make their job easier and to increase their powerbase.

lol
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They don't try to take our guns.

The NRA funds our government.

Democrats turn into Melvin trying to do anything

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I would much rather be taken for a ride by the NRA to sell guns. Because that gives power and agency to the people.

It is counterintuitive but the more you believe your government is going to do the right thing, the more you actually take stands to make this so. If you automatically assume that the government will do nothing but hurt you, you're part of a culture that only makes it worse, not better. If you really think that these weapons are doing anything for liberty, then why didn't they stop the PATRIOT Act or the NSA wiretapping or about a million other crimes from happening? At the very least, why didn't YOU actually go and try to fight them with your weapons over it? Because the whole argument is complete bullshit. They allow such lax weapon laws because having a gun gives its owner the illusion of power, while having none of it in reality. It is hard for me to take seriously the dudes that both tell me their weapons keep them free and then go and vote for dudes like Bush and Trump who do nothing but sign away all their other rights time and again.

It's rather alarming that you don't seem to recognize a difference between a government bombing other countries and a government murdering its own citizens. It's also rather alarming that you don't seem to realize that a completely unrestricted arms race between criminals and the police is a very bad thing (if you thought American police were militarized NOW...).
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adjl posted...

It's rather alarming that you don't seem to recognize a difference between a government bombing other countries and a government murdering its own citizens. It's also rather alarming that you don't seem to realize that a completely unrestricted arms race between criminals and the police is a very bad thing (if you thought American police were militarized NOW...).

There isn't a difference between bombing other countries and bombing their own citizens. We're both just people.

Also, that will exist regardless. Militarization of the police is the natural inclination because polkce want to maintain control over the populace. It is going to happen whether people are armed or not.

The government isn't trying to take away guns, the citizens are

TC is a conspiracy theorist.
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jramirez23 posted...

TC is a conspiracy theorist.

Conspiracies that happen time and time again throughout history.

China, North Korea, USSR, Nazi Germany.

Because how a government treats enemy nations is how they'll always treat their own people!
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Because how a government treats enemy nations is how they'll always treat their own people!

There is no difference. They don't think in terms of "Oh they're a government so we can kill them now."

They will do whatever is necessary to sieze whatever resources and power they want. They will kill anyone they can who stands in their way, citizen or government. They want to destroy wbatever is a threat to their power, and citizenry should be a threat to their power.

VioletZer0 posted...

adjl posted...

It's rather alarming that you don't seem to recognize a difference between a government bombing other countries and a government murdering its own citizens. It's also rather alarming that you don't seem to realize that a completely unrestricted arms race between criminals and the police is a very bad thing (if you thought American police were militarized NOW...).

There isn't a difference between bombing other countries and bombing their own citizens. We're both just people.

Also, that will exist regardless. Militarization of the police is the natural inclination because polkce want to maintain control over the populace. It is going to happen whether people are armed or not.

we're literally bombing Syrias bomb making facilities because they bombed their own people.

you need to go back to not posting.

or stick to just one gimmick at a time
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I don't know how liberals can oppose police brutality and war mongering but contend that only the government should have certain firearms.

I don't know how republicans can wave both the Don't Tread on Me and the Thin Blue Line flags at once.

It's almost like both parties are filled with manipulated morons with inconsistent principles.
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BADoglick posted...

I don't know how liberals can oppose police brutality and war mongering but contend that only the government should have certain firearms.

I don't know how republicans can wave both the Don't Tread on Me and the Thin Blue Line flags at once.

It's almost like both parties are filled with manipulated morons with inconsistent principles.

I completely agree.

helIy posted...

we're literally bombing Syrias bomb making facilities because they bombed their own people.

You seriously believe that reason given to you?

That not only Assad would gas his people for no reason, but that's a good enough reason to go to war?

This is obviously yet more blood for oil. Assad didn't want the US to put a pipeline in their country, and then "radicals" "showed up."

VioletZer0 posted...

helIy posted...

we're literally bombing Syrias bomb making facilities because they bombed their own people.

You seriously believe that reason given to you?

That not only Assad would gas his people for no reason, but that's a good enough reason to go to war?

This is obviously yet more blood for oil. Assad didn't want the US to put a pipeline in their country, and then "radicals" "showed up."

oh, you seriously believe that?

i bet you believe in the moon, too.
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VioletZer0 posted...

There isn't a difference between bombing other countries and bombing their own citizens. We're both just people.

One of those groups pays taxes to the US government and the other doesn't. That's a pretty big difference right there.

VioletZer0 posted...

Also, that will exist regardless. Militarization of the police is the natural inclination because polkce want to maintain control over the populace. It is going to happen whether people are armed or not.

Yes, but the police need to be significantly more militarized when gangs have APC's than when they have handguns. At least while criminals have civilian-grade weaponry, you can push back against militarizing the police by saying "you don't need that."
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Telling the government "you don't need that" has never stopped the government from doing anything.

They didn't need the patriot act, but they did it anyway.