Board 8 > Hearthstone Discussion Topic: (Arcane)Dustwood

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davidponte posted...

The Yu-Gi-Oh rant doesn't really matter in the context of this conversation.

OK then.

Man, it's tough to quickly reply to posts without missing other posts while on mobile.
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Why can't you just play your cards faster?
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davidponte posted...

Why can't you just play your cards faster?

turbopuns2 posted...

It doesn't matter if the time limit on a turn is 75 seconds, 20 seconds, or 9,001 seconds. Allowing you to keep going as long as you're doing things is a good idea.

It's not about having more time. It's about the fact that some turns have a lot more actions than others, thus certain decks are punished simply by being designed in such a way that their turns are more involved.

It's like I was saying earlier...sometimes you think it through and then you commit, but because of card animations you just can't finish it in time. It's really stupid that you can be completely locked into your turn but simply run out of time to actually perform it because the animations take forever.

Like a common one for me is when I'm deciding whether to play Deathstalker Rexxar that turn or wait. Once you play him, it's like 5 seconds before you can play the Build-A-Beast hero power. Even longer if the opponent has a lot of minions on board.

No matter what you set the turn time limit to, this problem still exists. You'll have situations where people have committed to their actions but simply can't complete them before the turn is over.

Like imagine the MtG situation you described. If you implemented a time limit on turns...let's say the guy is sitting there contemplating it for a while. If his obvious play that you think shouldn't take him any time to play out involves playing 3 cards...are you going to be staring at a stopwatch and interrupt him after he's like "Alright, alright, here's what I'm gonna do..." and he's played 2 of the 3 cards, and you're just like "NOPE! TIME'S UP LOSER, SHOULD HAVE GONE FASTER. NO THIRD CARD FOR YOU."?

If you're actively playing the game, your time shouldn't expire.

Anyway, made it to Shivers again on my next Tracker run. Absolutely curbstomped by him drawing a 1-mana, 10-attack lifesteal weapon every turn starting on turn 4-5. This sure is fun. >_>

What about something like making the turn timer count down at half speed while an animation is playing?
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I think the issue is less about a turn timer and more about animation speeds and the time it takes to play cards, which I agree is an issue.

Again, though, it'd be tough to do anything that doesn't also create an opportunity for abuse.
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right. again, the number of seconds per turn is a totally separate conversation which doesn't affect the issue.

they'd probably have to implement some sort of rule where you can't play the same card 10 times in a row or something silly like that.

UltimaterializerX posted...

How could he POSSIBLY think 'we're not updating DK Rexxar because of text boxes' was a good idea otherwise?

What's this? I'm pretty curious lol

The rexxar issue was not a simple coding one, and unless youre literally a professional coder you should keep your incorrect opinion to yourself.

Got nothin about cubelock tho that deck is a complete pos to play against

to be fair, that post was made in the early days of cubelock, when no one was good at it, everyone was playing 0-mana 5/5's on turn 3, and none of that mattered anyways because Priest was just better.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Houndmaster: 1st try.
Cannoneer: 2nd try.
Tracker: 5th try.
Toki: 1st try.

9 runs for 4 victories seems pretty decent. I'll give the final battle a shot tonight after work.

First try success on final battle. It was really touch and go for most of it. I took The first almagamation out with a brawl. The 2nd almagamation was given Windfury and then she made a copy of it. I only survived by using tracker hero power every turn to get a blizzard to keep them locked down for 5+ turns while i dug for more removal.

It was a lot of fun though. These are the 4 perks i took.

1) heal allied minions + self for 2 hp every turn (this was one of my favorite perks across all classes and was an easy take)
2) minions cost 1 less to play (it wasn't against anything great and my hand to that point was mostly minions)
3) minions get +2 hp (this was my first time taking this one in all my runs. Im not sure how influential it was but it set up a few trades and has good synergy with the every-turn-heals)
4) you can use your hero power twice a turn and it costs 1 less. (standard amazing tracker perk).

I do wonder if you get your heroes in random order though. I benefited a lot from tracker being my 8cost and getting that perk

Now i need to go back and finish all my dungeon runs in kobolds.
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ColZach posted...

The rexxar issue was not a simple coding one, and unless youre literally a professional coder you should keep your incorrect opinion to yourself.

Got nothin about cubelock tho that deck is a complete pos to play against

Well no, anyone with a basic understanding of coding would know that the change wouldn't take more than... 10 seconds, if the game is programmed in any reasonable manner.

Presumably, each card is tagged with the card type, tribe, and set. Already, Rexxar's pool should be drawing beasts from standard sets. Adding KaC and WW to that list shouldn't take more than a line of coding a piece... if programmed to be absolutely random.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

ColZach posted...

The rexxar issue was not a simple coding one, and unless youre literally a professional coder you should keep your incorrect opinion to yourself.

Got nothin about cubelock tho that deck is a complete pos to play against

Well no, anyone with a basic understanding of coding would know that the change wouldn't take more than... 10 seconds, if the game is programmed in any reasonable manner.

Presumably, each card is tagged with the card type, tribe, and set. Already, Rexxar's pool should be drawing beasts from standard sets. Adding KaC and WW to that list shouldn't take more than a line of coding a piece... if programmed to be absolutely random.

Its hilarious to see time and time again people posting about things they actually just dont know about. If its so fucking easy, learn to code and go work for Blizzard and improve their quality by 500%.

Oh wait, it wont happen because you guys have no idea how to code and talk mad shit like you do. I certainly dont but I know if it really would have taken ten seconds they would have done it.

Of course your retort is just well lul the game isnt programmed reasokably, so go ahead and submit your resume to Blizzard. HS game director spot is open.

I think it is literally impossible to lose as the Tracker. 3 runs, 24 wins, never in danger. So busted.
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I won with the tracker on my 2nd try but I feel like I got the boss for Houndmaster instead. It was Glinda and even the voice acting during the intro was for Shaw.

It was also extremely easy to beat with Tracker so I'm not complaining.
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FFDragon posted...

I think it is literally impossible to lose as the Tracker. 3 runs, 24 wins, never in danger. So busted.

I'm guessing you never faced an opponent who was bloodlusting a board of 6-7 minions on turn 5, and you having nothing but a single FoK to respond.

skullbone posted...

I won with the tracker on my 2nd try but I feel like I got the boss for Houndmaster instead. It was Glinda and even the voice acting during the intro was for Shaw.

It was also extremely easy to beat with Tracker so I'm not complaining.

Apparently, if you win the against the seventh boss after you use a DK, you get the final boss for the DK class and not your starting class. That seems to be why people are getting Gobbles, if you finish with a class that isn't represented by one of the four characters the game doesn't seem to know what to do.
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Oh okay yeah that makes sense. I used Deathstalker Rexxar in either game 6 or 7 so it makes sense that I got the "Hunter" boss.
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Not my alt. I closed my old account because of a bet.

Agree to disagree I guess but in that same thread it was confirmed as a localization and text issue, but keep pandering blizzard hate to confirm your biases.

brb applying to be a hearthstone developer

I'll update you once I've reviewed the code in question

turbopuns2 posted...

brb applying to be a hearthstone developer

I'll update you once I've reviewed the code in question

Double checking the links posted, I wasnt even wrong about what I said? Love how ulti will talk shit and then prove himself wrong. Its rockbiter weapon arena game all over again.

FFDragon posted...

I think it is literally impossible to lose as the Tracker. 3 runs, 24 wins, never in danger. So busted.

Captain Shivers plays Kingsbane, hit you for 1
Captain Shivers plays Deadly Poison x2, hits you for 5
Captain Shivers plays Leeching Poison, hits you for 5, heals for 5
Captain Shivers reclaims Kingsbane, plays it, hits/heals for 5.
Captain Shivers plays Greenskin, hits/heals you for 6.
Captain Shivers plays Southsea Squidface, hits/heals you for 6.
You are at 17 simply from being hit with Kingsbane.
Two turns later, you are dead.

Yeah, totally impossible to lose. Either you need to take extra health, or you need to have your own weapon game where you can copy his buffs.
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I crushed Shivers hard two of my three runs (didn't get him on my second one for some reason).

Once by milling and once by out flooding him.
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Well, the jade game plan that works so well against everyone else is utter crap against him. You don't win that race.
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T2 Swarmer + T3 Swarmer/Grave Mistake worked wonders actually.
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I mean it is hearthstone, after all. If it happens twice, clearly any other outcome is impossible.

I beat shivers my first try because of Tess insane weapon card + lifesteal + poison.

I think shes likely the easiest, but people have said cannon man is easy and he seems tough to me. Same with dog boy.

In my Tracker run that made it to Shivers, I chose all Aggro options then got to him and conceded on turn 4.
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Can someone whos blocked by ulti make the next topic?

are there any video games in existence which are known for having 0 bugs?

let's not turn this into a conversation where everybody pretends they know the first thing about software development.

If you read the first few comments of the post you'd see that he disconnected when he queued up which might have resulted in a loss, then reconnected and got matched up into a second game. The win got him back to 5 stars.
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davidponte posted...

If you read the first few comments of the post you'd see that he disconnected when he queued up which might have resulted in a loss, then reconnected and got matched up into a second game. The win got him back to 5 stars.

I mean it's still a bug, just not as severe. The rank is technically accurate, but it's more of a user experience thing where it's not made clear to the player what exactly went down.

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