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SeabassDebeste
04/21/18 8:50:55 PM
#201:


lakers mavs 2011 never forget
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SeabassDebeste
04/21/18 8:57:00 PM
#202:


transcience posted...
I think this Sixers team is basically in the spot the Thunder were shortly after drafting Harden. I'm super interested to see who they get this offseason. it's the only team I can think of where Lebron is actually a really bad idea.

lebron is not a really bad idea

i mean it is for the league, but not for the sixers or lebron

also - rockets swept the magic in 1995 as the 6 seed i think
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LeonhartFour
04/21/18 9:07:27 PM
#203:


SeabassDebeste posted...
also - rockets swept the magic in 1995 as the 6 seed i think


I specified first round only for a reason!
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SeabassDebeste
04/21/18 9:08:31 PM
#204:


I know, just bringing up lower-seed sweeps in general now!
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LeonhartFour
04/21/18 10:10:36 PM
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 10:29:44 PM
#206:


dear portland trailblazers

please blow it up and send us mccollum

sincerely
a depressed pistons fan
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transience
04/21/18 10:31:06 PM
#207:


I want to see you workshop that trade just because I want to see what Detroit has that someone would want
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 10:44:46 PM
#208:


transience posted...
I want to see you workshop that trade just because I want to see what Detroit has that someone would want


It'd have to be about the Blazers blowing it up, and therefore wanting salary relief, draft picks, and young players. Something like Luke Kennard, Ish Smith ($6 million expiring), Jon Leuer ($19 million left over 2 years), a 2020 draft pick and a protected 2022 draft pick for McCollum (3 years, $71 million).
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 10:55:15 PM
#209:


Like, Kennard had a pretty damn good rookie year if you didn't have that Donovan Mitchell cloud hanging over him.

11th in overall win shares.
8th in WS/48 among players who logged at least 1000 minutes.
Second best three point percentage among the same group.
7th in assists among same group.
Best three throw shooter.
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transience
04/21/18 10:56:31 PM
#210:


I just looked at the Pistons salary situation. jeeze.

you're paying Josh Smith until 2020?
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 11:04:40 PM
#211:


transience posted...
I just looked at the Pistons salary situation. jeeze.

you're paying Josh Smith until 2020?


Yup, we opted to stretch him in 2014.

The salary situation is pretty bad, then suddenly we get about $65 million in expiring salary in 2019. So it's really just one year of no maneuverability followed by a shit ton of expiring salary.
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transience
04/21/18 11:07:41 PM
#212:


are you sure? I'm looking here

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/DET.html

it looks like your cap is more or less maxed until 2020, and then you're paying $74m to 2 guys in 20-21.
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Dr_Football
04/21/18 11:13:32 PM
#213:


if we're gonna lose because Ricky Rubio played like we all thought he max potential might be, theres nothing I can do about that
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 11:16:00 PM
#214:


transience posted...
are you sure? I'm looking here

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/DET.html

it looks like your cap is more or less maxed until 2020, and then you're paying $74m to 2 guys in 20-21.


I said they have expiring contracts by 2019, with Drummond likely to opt out of his final year. They'll come off the book in 2020, yeah, but teams like expiring contracts so I could imagine them packaging some of those players together to acquire someone.
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transience
04/21/18 11:45:25 PM
#215:


I don't think anyone will be paying a proper center more than 29m a year in 2020. I don't think he'd opt out but crazier things have happened.
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 11:53:41 PM
#216:


transience posted...
I don't think anyone will be paying a proper center more than 29m a year in 2020. I don't think he'd opt out but crazier things have happened.


I mean he's now a 2x All-Star and will likely add another 2-3 during that timespan. It's hard to imagine him not making $25+ million a season with a rising salary cap. It ain't like he's gonna drop down to making $15 million or something ridiculous when he'll still only be 26.
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transience
04/21/18 11:56:09 PM
#217:


I'm looking forward to seeing the salary cap rise. it'll be flat or down for two years soon.
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TheRock1525
04/21/18 11:58:55 PM
#218:


transience posted...
I'm looking forward to seeing the salary cap rise. it'll be flat or down for two years soon.


I believe the 2020 cap is projected at $120 million, which is roughly $20 million higher than what it is this year, right?
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ExThaNemesis
04/22/18 12:11:29 AM
#219:


this game has made me miserable.
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TheRock1525
04/22/18 12:31:46 AM
#220:


ExThaNemesis posted...
this game has made me miserable.


If you followed ExTha's life at all, you'd know that.
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ExThaNemesis
04/22/18 12:36:38 AM
#221:


TheRock1525 posted...
If you followed ExTha's life at all, you'd know that.


well played
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ninkendo
04/22/18 2:07:30 AM
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Corrik
04/22/18 3:19:19 AM
#224:


TheRock1525 posted...
transience posted...
I'm looking forward to seeing the salary cap rise. it'll be flat or down for two years soon.


I believe the 2020 cap is projected at $120 million, which is roughly $20 million higher than what it is this year, right?

It is 99 now
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transience
04/22/18 8:17:00 AM
#225:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2016/07/07/nba-salary-cap-projections-lebron-james/86808464/

edit: wait that's old. let me see if I can find a more recent link

edit 2: this is the best I can find: http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/09/28/report-nba-cap-will-be-set-at-101-million-for-2018-19-108-million-for-2019-20/ - I see where you got the $120m number from but that was back when the NBA was booming. you can see the difference in salaries for, say, nick batum vs. lou williams and see how there was a bit of a bubble in 2016 that popped pretty impressively.
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SeabassDebeste
04/22/18 8:28:18 AM
#226:


and specifically, the salary cap itself is in some ways what resulted in the balloon popping - durant to the warriors made the postseason shorter, and because there were fewer playoff games last year, the salary cap increase did not meet projections.

circle of life.
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TheRock1525
04/22/18 1:50:48 PM
#227:


Boston is gonna lose this series.
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SeabassDebeste
04/22/18 1:53:43 PM
#228:


i hate the playoffs
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LeonhartFour
04/22/18 2:05:27 PM
#229:


UltimaterializerX posted...
And Lebron is a terrible idea for the Sixers unless hes willing to let Ben Simmons be the guy. He has no history of letting anyone else be the guy.


Nah, he let Wade be the guy in his first year in Miami. Then they lost to the Mavs and everyone realized that was a terrible idea.
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TheRock1525
04/22/18 5:51:14 PM
#230:


Good to see SA not going out on their homecourt.

Once more unto the breach.
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KommunistKoala
04/22/18 5:51:29 PM
#231:


Aldridge and Ginobli refuse to let us get swept
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LeonhartFour
04/22/18 6:45:31 PM
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KommunistKoala
04/22/18 8:28:54 PM
#233:


refs trying to fuck the wizards

weakest call ive ever seen for a 6th foul
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davidponte
04/22/18 8:38:46 PM
#234:


Playoff Raptors, how I've missed you.
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Icehawk
04/22/18 8:50:12 PM
#235:


Lmaaaao raptors.

Also, refs are so relieved wiz won

https://twitter.com/WestenShelton/status/988216783231430656?s=19
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transience
04/22/18 9:24:59 PM
#236:


thank god I'm not a Wiz fan because Beal's sixth would have ended my life
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LeonhartFour
04/22/18 9:40:47 PM
#237:


just saw a replay of that sixth foul call on Beal

definitely a good thing the Wizards won that game in the end

also it'd be hilarious if Philly was the only higher seed to win a series in the East

I mean I don't trust the Wizards and Bucks to actually win a big game like that on the road but still at least we're getting some entertaining series
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HotDogButts
04/22/18 10:35:07 PM
#238:


o ya go my pacers
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Icehawk
04/22/18 10:48:04 PM
#239:


Cavs defensive rebounding has been putrid in the 2nd half. They look gassed.

Also, this series has been the mvp of r1
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transience
04/22/18 10:48:20 PM
#240:


Stephenson is this hilarious little brother who's always trying to get big bro's attention
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transience
04/22/18 10:58:13 PM
#241:


neither of these teams belong in the second round
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HotDogButts
04/22/18 11:03:18 PM
#242:


oladipo trying to hero ball after having a garbage night

turrible
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transience
04/22/18 11:04:34 PM
#243:


somebody needs to tell me why jeff green is still playing
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Icehawk
04/22/18 11:11:26 PM
#244:


Just like game 2, felt like a very fortunate win for the Cavs. Awful game by oladipo, and really, almost every pacer outside if sabonis.

The east playoffs is shaping up to be pretty damn fun the whole way through. Same with the West. A shame that the finals are going to be awful.
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Icehawk
04/22/18 11:13:41 PM
#245:


transience posted...
somebody needs to tell me why jeff green is still playing


If he gets t'd up here, holy ****
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transience
04/22/18 11:15:14 PM
#246:


lance is such a punk but jeff green shouldn't be on the court

i saw a tweet saying how none of the guys they acquired are even on the floor here and it's really telling
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transience
04/22/18 11:15:41 PM
#247:


I think a foul is the right call but yeesh
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Icehawk
04/22/18 11:18:44 PM
#249:


transience posted...
lance is such a punk but jeff green shouldn't be on the court

i saw a tweet saying how none of the guys they acquired are even on the floor here and it's really telling


Rodney Hood in particular has looked so overwhelmed and out of place. It's been unreal. People acted like they had put themselves in a spot to compete post LeBron, but man, def not the case. Cavs are going to be awful next year.
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LeonhartFour
04/22/18 11:19:33 PM
#250:


Icehawk posted...
Cavs are going to be awful next year.


well they've been awful every year LeBron hasn't been there since...I don't even know when but a long time

looks like the last time they had a winning record without LeBron was 1998
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