Current Events > Fat acceptance is an insidious cancer upon society

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Stolen from reddit but saw someone on my timeline retweet this bullshit earlier today.
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Comedy gold though
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im 25.5 x.x

oh well im almost at a healthy weight

just gotta keep working
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Doesn't BMI also account for sex? Avery Edison is a biological male so the BMI for them would be determined on that scale.
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Hey man, some people just wanna die early.
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It's funny how just a couple generations ago someone that looks "normal" today would be considered comically obese to them.

Normalization, you son of a bitch

Why do fat people who demand fat acceptance do not like to be called fat?
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thelovefist posted...

Doesn't BMI also account for sex? Avery Edison is a biological male so the BMI for them would be determined on that scale.

holy shit you really are a chaser

goddamn dude keep it in your pants
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Oh ya, anyone who is fat and doesn't know it is super unhealthy is just delusional.

It's a choice like smoking or drinking.

"fat activism" gtfo

i definitely think we should recognize that overweight people are people and they have feelings and need to be respected like anyone else, but silencing the objective fact that being overweight is bad for you is dangerous.
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BMI is overly simplified though. Height and weight are a good starting point for determining health but some women aren't exactly unhealthy just because they have big tits and thick thighs bringing their weight up.

People took the reasonable "Beauty standards are unrealistic" and then tried to combine it with "Healthy at every weight", which is where fat acceptance becomes a problem.
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

"fat activism" gtfo

i definitely think we should recognize that overweight people are people and they have feelings and need to be respected like anyone else, but silencing the objective fact that being overweight is bad for you is dangerous.

Absolutely

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

BMI is overly simplified though. Height and weight are a good starting point for determining health but some women aren't exactly unhealthy just because they have big tits and thick thighs bringing their weight up.

Sure. Thats not really the problematic part of these tweets though lol
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Giant_Aspirin posted...

"fat activism" gtfo

i definitely think we should recognize that overweight people are people and they have feelings and need to be respected like anyone else, but silencing the objective fact that being overweight is bad for you is dangerous.

Define overweight.

Also carrying fat cells on your body does not equate to bad for you. Whats bad is a unhealthy cardiovascular system. Being obese is just a sign and a risk factor to what is actually bad.
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So glad to have a 17.6 BMI
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

BMI is overly simplified though. Height and weight are a good starting point for determining health but some women aren't exactly unhealthy just because they have big tits and thick thighs bringing their weight up.

It's a valuable metric for comparing a population's trend along time and different countries.

For example:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L8ZAuQAel7c/U0hlHd0BjAI/AAAAAAAAX2Y/ZTEKqw9VkRs/s280/BMI+over+time.PNG

People who are literally like "there is nothing unhealthy about being fat" are fucking morons >_>
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I've ranged from normal to as high as the lower end of obese. I'll never be able to comprehend why anyone would ENJOY being fat and attempt to justify it the way some of these people do. Just the feeling of being fat is horrible. It just made me feel physically uncomfortable.
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I would find being fat quite humiliating. Its like openly saying you dont take care of yourself. People should be told the truth, not some wishy washy everyone is beautiful bull.
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yet another example of SJWism being a cancer
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Confirmation bias in a post-truth era is a dangerous combination.
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That person's entire Twitter count seems pretty cancerous, but apparently she acknowledges nothing has brought out more "hateful" comments than pushing fat acceptance.

I like how she firmly states in one tweet "losing weight does not work" and immediately walks it back in the next tweet to "I'm not saying never try to lose weight", with the note that "if you do lose a lot of weight, you'll probably just gain it all back and more and it isn't your fault."

It seems ridiculous that she compares being fat to being left handed. Like it's an immutable characteristic.

As someone who's worked my way down from 230lbs to 183, I feel like she's full of shit.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

BMI is overly simplified though. Height and weight are a good starting point for determining health but some women aren't exactly unhealthy just because they have big tits and thick thighs bringing their weight up.

From an epidemiology standpoint in medicine, BMI is pretty useful. You have to be pretty fucking jacked for it to not be valid and any clinician worth their salt will know a super muscular dude with great blood work is not going to be at higher risk of certain illnesses because of BMI.

But like the overwhelming majority are due to people obviously overweight in terms of body fat, they carry their weight viscerally, and their bloodwork shows it.

As for women, they don't have a male body habitus. Meaning they won't carry weight around their belly, at least initially. For many women, thighs are the first place it starts depositing. Women with really thick thighs are on their way to developing more of a traditional obese body habitus.

i'll never understand why people keep defaulting to the extreme exceptions when trying to invalidate BMI. It's like, we get it, anybody worth their salt already knows the limitations, but those limitations are overstated in virtually every instance.
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Soviet_Poland posted...

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

BMI is overly simplified though. Height and weight are a good starting point for determining health but some women aren't exactly unhealthy just because they have big tits and thick thighs bringing their weight up.

From an epidemiology standpoint in medicine, BMI is pretty useful. You have to be pretty fucking jacked for it to not be valid and any clinician worth their salt will know a super muscular dude with great blood work is not going to be at higher risk of certain illnesses because of BMI.

But like the overwhelming majority are due to people obviously overweight in terms of body fat, they carry their weight viscerally, and their bloodwork shows it.

As for women, they don't have a male body habitus. Meaning they won't carry weight around their belly, at least initially. For many women, thighs are the first place it starts depositing. Women with really thick thighs are on their way to developing more of a traditional obese body habitus.

i'll never understand why people keep defaulting to the extreme exceptions when trying to invalidate BMI. It's like, we get it, anybody worth their salt already knows the limitations, but those limitations are overstated in virtually every instance.

Women inherently carry more bodyfat than men, it's not just the differences in where they store it.

Women with curves (actual curves) are not overweight. It doesn't take a super jacked guy to dupe the system.

You can take one look at multiple women of equal height and weight and see which ones are actually meant to carry that weight.

Oh well. At least I'll see more patients in the hospital for complications and get more money.

I can't help people who can't help themselves.
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The problem I have with anti-fat acceptance movements is that I largely get the feel that people who argue for them are less concerned with where fat acceptance is taking us in terms of actual serious issues, and instead are upset that people call them out on saying horrible shit about fat people.

Saying "obesity is a serious health issue" is a very different thing than "fat people are awful, lazy, and stupid and entertaining to make fun of".

These topics are usually about the latter.
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Unless you're ripped af, if you have a high BMI you're most likely unhealthy. Like you can tell by just looking at someone most of the time lol
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Fat acceptance in a country where the overwhelming majority is fat lol.
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CapnMuffin posted...

Giant_Aspirin posted...

"fat activism" gtfo

i definitely think we should recognize that overweight people are people and they have feelings and need to be respected like anyone else, but silencing the objective fact that being overweight is bad for you is dangerous.

Define overweight.

Also carrying fat cells on your body does not equate to bad for you. Whats bad is a unhealthy cardiovascular system. Being obese is just a sign and a risk factor to what is actually bad.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining.html

carrying fat isn't bad. carrying too much of it is. and sure, the real problem is a bad cardiovascular system but being too fat puts a tremendous amount of work on that system and wears it down so much faster.

Amazon_Shampoo (i think that's her name) said it well: it's a lifestyle choice just like smoking cigarettes or drinking excessively. one should be aware of the health risks associated with that lifestyle choice and it's dangerous to silence information required to make a healthy risk:reward analysis.

edit: and i recognize that many people have what i would consider a 'food addiction' that's just as hard to break as any other addiction, if not harder because you need food to survive.
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Being fat wears down your joints faster too and can cause back problems.
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"Don't make people feel shitty" is basically as far as things like this should go. Feeding into somebody's unhealthy lifestyle is not helping them, be it due to diet, mental illness, or something else.

Being falsely content then dying sooner is good how?
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its also the biggest burden on our healthcare system.
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COVxy posted...

Saying "obesity is a serious health issue" is a very different thing than "fat people are awful, lazy, and stupid and entertaining to make fun of".

These topics are usually about the latter.

Fat people are inherently lazy, given their condition.

As for the rest, I certainly dont recall saying or implying that
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ASithLord7 posted...

Fat people are inherently lazy, given their condition.

That doesn't really follow.
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COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

Fat people are inherently lazy, given their condition.

That doesn't really follow.

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.
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-"I hate fat people"
-"How much money do you have in your savings?"

Not a day goes by on CE without these two topics
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How many calories would rolling down a hill burn?
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Behaviorism posted...

-"I hate fat people"
-"How much money do you have in your savings?"

Not a day goes by on CE without these two topics

I dont hate fat people, I hate the acceptance or glorification of obesity as a normal and healthy lifestyle
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ASithLord7 posted...

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.

What a simplistic and moronic hot take.
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ASithLord7 posted...

Behaviorism posted...

-"I hate fat people"
-"How much money do you have in your savings?"

Not a day goes by on CE without these two topics

I dont hate fat people, I hate the acceptance or glorification of obesity as a normal and healthy lifestyle

Live and let live
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COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.

What a simplistic and moronic hot take.

For someone who makes such a big deal about being accurate and denying pseudoscience youre always so quick to dismiss the actual fact that weight loss is as simple as eating less calories than you burn.

Wonder why.
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ASithLord7 posted...

COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.

What a simplistic and moronic hot take.

For someone who makes such a big deal about being accurate and denying pseudoscience youre always so quick to dismiss the actual fact that weight loss is as simple as eating less calories than you burn.

Wonder why.

Wow, alert the NIH, they can fire the hundreds of PhDs working on all the levels of analysis of obesity. This guy found the answer.
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NeonOctopus posted...

People who are literally like "there is nothing unhealthy about being fat" are fucking morons >_>

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COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.

What a simplistic and moronic hot take.

For someone who makes such a big deal about being accurate and denying pseudoscience youre always so quick to dismiss the actual fact that weight loss is as simple as eating less calories than you burn.

Wonder why.

Wow, alert the NIH, they can fire the hundreds of PhDs working on all the levels of analysis of obesity. This guy found the answer.

Im talking about the simple biological mechanic, not any mental factors involved.
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ASithLord7 posted...

Im talking about the simple biological mechanic, not any mental factors involved.

Do you know how complicated the signalling pathways for eating and drinking behavior are?
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ASithLord7 posted...

COVxy posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

Fat people are inherently lazy, given their condition.

That doesn't really follow.

Theyre too lazy to simply count calories.

i was expecting you to talk about how being obese makes it more difficult to move because it takes more effort, which would have been one thing. but damn, dude, that is a very disingenuous way to think about their problem. eating disorders are a thing. and you of all people should consider how more lower income people are overweight for many reasons pertaining to their economic situation (access to fresh produce/food, etc).

don't be so quick to judge.
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Shut up tc, I am a beautiful slender woman, I don't care what my doctor tells me my bmi is. It's not weight that makes you fat, it's hate; and you sir, are morbidly obese.
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