Current Events > American gun owners: 2nd is repealed, how would you act

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Thatuser 03/30/18 2:02:38 PM #1:	Through legal means, either constitutional convention or court decree, the 2nd is repealed Turn over weapons to government willingly Turn over weapons to government unwillingly Refuse to turn over weapons on any conditions I don't own any guns, but I have a problem with this I don't own any guns and fully support this View Results At some point in the future the government has instituted gun registration policy so they know who owns how many weapons and where they are. Through legal means ownership of guns has been made illegal in the hands of average citizens, and the government intends to force collection of all registered guns under penalty of prosecution. How would you react? <cite>Thatuser posted [p:898770414] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote> Through legal means, either constitutional convention or court decree, the 2nd is repealed Turn over weapons to government willingly Turn over weapons to government unwillingly Refuse to turn over weapons on any conditions I don't own any guns, but I have a problem with this I don't own any guns and fully support this View Results At some point in the future the government has instituted gun registration policy so they know who owns how many weapons and where they are. Through legal means ownership of guns has been made illegal in the hands of average citizens, and the government intends to force collection of all registered guns under penalty of prosecution. How would you react?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cosmic_Diabetic 03/30/18 2:08:16 PM #2:	What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? It doesn't have to be either every kind of gun is a right or no gun is a right. That's a false dichotomy. But to answer this silly hypo I'd be unhappy about it but I'd go along with it. I'm really not worried about a tyrant situation. If the president put the entire country on martial law I'm pretty sure he'd be booted out in a heartbeat. We live in a world now with easy access to information. The military won't just do anything and everything the president wants. Hell a lot of the people who are paranoid about a tyrannical government are in the military. --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:898770651] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? It doesn't have to be either every kind of gun is a right or no gun is a right. That's a false dichotomy. But to answer this silly hypo I'd be unhappy about it but I'd go along with it. I'm really not worried about a tyrant situation. If the president put the entire country on martial law I'm pretty sure he'd be booted out in a heartbeat. We live in a world now with easy access to information. The military won't just do anything and everything the president wants. Hell a lot of the people who are paranoid about a tyrannical government are in the military.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anarchy_Juiblex 03/30/18 2:10:29 PM #3:	Bush Doctrine on preemptive retaliation. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali <cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted [p:898770753] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Bush Doctrine on preemptive retaliation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 03/30/18 2:12:35 PM #4:	Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. --- I/\ \|_\| <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:898770874] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myzz7 03/30/18 2:12:58 PM #5:	The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. there would be a revolution. --- http://s10.postimage.org/mxioonsd1/gildavatar.gif http://gifgifs.com/res/0916/57ebaeea6c7a9047727112.gif <cite>myzz7 posted [p:898770892] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. there would be a revolution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sativa_Rose 03/30/18 2:13:05 PM #6:	Anarchy_Juiblex posted... Bush Doctrine on preemptive retaliation. lol --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. <cite>Sativa_Rose posted [p:898770898] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anarchy_Juiblex posted...</cite> <quote>Bush Doctrine on preemptive retaliation.</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish 03/30/18 2:13:27 PM #7:	Molon labe. --- Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that." <cite>ThePrinceFish posted [p:898770914] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Molon labe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FairyLeviathan 03/30/18 2:16:59 PM #8:	Petition governors to start secessions and prepare for war. Anyone who thinks that the government disarming its citizens so they can't protect themselves is a good idea is completely naive. <cite>FairyLeviathan posted [p:898771094] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Petition governors to start secessions and prepare for war. Anyone who thinks that the government disarming its citizens so they can't protect themselves is a good idea is completely naive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 03/30/18 2:20:15 PM #9:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:898771274] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions?</quote> For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 03/30/18 3:25:15 PM #10:	Thatuser posted... Cosmic_Diabetic posted... What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock. A bayonet...stock? Do you mean lug? --- I/\ \|_\| <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:898774674] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions?</quote> For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock.</quote> A bayonet...stock? Do you mean lug?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 03/30/18 3:26:18 PM #11:	somethingsomethingColdDeadHands --- https://i.imgur.com/akpEP6p.gif https://i.imgur.com/hVRNKNs.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:898774729] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>somethingsomethingColdDeadHands</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 03/30/18 3:29:32 PM #12:	My bet is most would talk a big game then just hand them over peacefully. The fear drives some people to need them will also make them passive, despite what they say now. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:898774883] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>My bet is most would talk a big game then just hand them over peacefully. The fear drives some people to need them will also make them passive, despite what they say now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 03/30/18 3:30:28 PM #13:	Man this would be really bad. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:898774923] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Man this would be really bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
50Blessings 03/30/18 3:31:25 PM #14:	Jump in my bunker and prepare for my last stand against the New world order --- America is a tune. It must be sung together. --50 Blessings https://i.imgur.com/xKI9rbb.jpg <cite>50Blessings posted [p:898774966] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Jump in my bunker and prepare for my last stand against the New world order</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/30/18 3:37:02 PM #15:	I don't own any guns but I would probably want to leave the country. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898775281] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>I don't own any guns but I would probably want to leave the country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 03/30/18 3:42:23 PM #17:	I wouldn't turn in any of my firearms. If I felt my home would be forcibly entered, I would find somewhere to hide them. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:898775579] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't turn in any of my firearms. If I felt my home would be forcibly entered, I would find somewhere to hide them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/30/18 3:52:17 PM #18:	Bullet_Wing posted... DevsBro posted... I don't own any guns but I would probably want to leave the country. And go where? I dunno. I hear Mars is nice this time of year. Surely there's a country out there which will still let you arm yourself with a bow, or a spear, or a dang stick, all of which classify as weapons. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:898776060] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DevsBro posted...</cite> <quote>I don't own any guns but I would probably want to leave the country.</quote> And go where?</quote> I dunno. I hear Mars is nice this time of year. Surely there's a country out there which will still let you arm yourself with a bow, or a spear, or a dang stick, all of which classify as weapons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Spiret 03/30/18 3:58:24 PM #19:	what guns, officer? <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:898776386] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>what guns, officer?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/30/18 4:01:13 PM #20:	Hypothetically (since I believe this will never happen) I would fight it tooth and nail and refuse to turn in my gun. --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:898776548] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Hypothetically (since I believe this will never happen) I would fight it tooth and nail and refuse to turn in my gun.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 03/30/18 4:02:23 PM #21:	Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. I'm afraid it was stolen officer. That's exactly what everyone and their grandmother will say. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:898776618] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> I'm afraid it was stolen officer. That's exactly what everyone and their grandmother will say.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/30/18 4:03:51 PM #22:	Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already? --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:898776711] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 03/30/18 4:04:54 PM #23:	What about all my militia meetings???? --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:898776757] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>What about all my militia meetings????</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_cajun88 03/30/18 4:05:08 PM #24:	I'm black. If they want my gun, they can have it. I don't want any police/government force looking for me for any reason. --- http://i.imgur.com/OkvDFD3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/owvpCYR.jpg <cite>the_cajun88 posted [p:898776763] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>I'm black. If they want my gun, they can have it. I don't want any police/government force looking for me for any reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 03/30/18 4:06:05 PM #25:	creativerealms posted... Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already? When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:898776813] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already?</quote> When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 03/30/18 4:08:29 PM #26:	I honestly wouldn't give a shit. I didn't ask for my gun, I don't use my gun, and I don't need it. It makes my wife uncomfortable just having it in the house. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:898776958] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>I honestly wouldn't give a shit. I didn't ask for my gun, I don't use my gun, and I don't need it. It makes my wife uncomfortable just having it in the house.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 03/30/18 4:11:51 PM #28:	If they want my guns, they better come and get them. No way I'm taking them to them --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:898777153] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>If they want my guns, they better come and get them. No way I'm taking them to them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 03/30/18 5:36:08 PM #30:	eston posted... I honestly wouldn't give a shit. I didn't ask for my gun, I don't use my gun, and I don't need it. It makes my wife uncomfortable just having it in the house. Then sell it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898781379] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote>I honestly wouldn't give a shit. I didn't ask for my gun, I don't use my gun, and I don't need it. It makes my wife uncomfortable just having it in the house.</quote> Then sell it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboLaserGandhi 03/30/18 5:36:58 PM #31:	I would not recognize a repeal of any right in the Bill of Rights as legitimate. <cite>RoboLaserGandhi posted [p:898781430] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>I would not recognize a repeal of any right in the Bill of Rights as legitimate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 5:37:20 PM #32:	Bullet_Wing posted... Tropicalwood posted... creativerealms posted... Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already? When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check. Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898781447] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already?</quote> When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check.</quote> Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainedRedone 03/30/18 5:41:33 PM #34:	Thatuser posted... Cosmic_Diabetic posted... What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock. It's not considered an assault weapon anywhere because it's a bolt action rifle. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:898781662] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions?</quote> For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock.</quote> It's not considered an assault weapon anywhere because it's a bolt action rifle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 5:49:53 PM #35:	ChainedRedone posted... Thatuser posted... Cosmic_Diabetic posted... What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions? For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock. It's not considered an assault weapon anywhere because it's a bolt action rifle. Every US assault weapons ban also bans the Mosin Nagant because it's 'capable' of accepting a myriad of cosmetic features, such as the aforementioned bayonet lug. Learn a bit about gun control policies before speaking. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898782091] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Thatuser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote>What if there was a middle ground where only semi-automatic/burst/full-auto had to be turned over and not say double barrels or bolt actions?</quote> For the sake of this topic, its all guns. By the way, I own a WW2 era Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle that is considered an assault weapon and banned in some states due to it being equipped with a bayonet stock.</quote> It's not considered an assault weapon anywhere because it's a bolt action rifle.</quote> Every US assault weapons ban also bans the Mosin Nagant because it's 'capable' of accepting a myriad of cosmetic features, such as the aforementioned bayonet lug. Learn a bit about gun control policies before speaking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 5:51:07 PM #36:	Bullet_Wing posted... darkjedilink posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Tropicalwood posted... creativerealms posted... Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already? When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check. Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy? You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898782167] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already?</quote> When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check.</quote> Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy?</quote> You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FairyLeviathan 03/30/18 5:51:43 PM #37:	You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease? <cite>FairyLeviathan posted [p:898782201] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><quote>You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chill02 03/30/18 5:52:54 PM #38:	I don't own any guns, but I have a problem with this --- Ave, true to Caesar. <cite>chill02 posted [p:898782264] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><quote>I don't own any guns, but I have a problem with this</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cosmic_Diabetic 03/30/18 6:04:56 PM #40:	darkjedilink posted... Bullet_Wing posted... darkjedilink posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Tropicalwood posted... creativerealms posted... Pepys Monster posted... Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over. How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already? When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check. Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy? You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? So do you not understand the concept of drivers license and license plates on cars? --- Others find humanity by looking in their own hearts. Only lost souls need to search for it outside themselves." <cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted [p:898782881] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>creativerealms posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>Registration = Confiscation I wont register my guns, nor hand them over.</quote> How are they the same thing? Also isn't every gun you buy legally registered already?</quote> When you make a list of guns, owners and locations, you bet your ass they're going to use them. Also, they're only registered if you provide your social security during the background check.</quote> Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> So, to exercise my right to defend myself, I must give up my right to privacy?</quote> You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> So do you not understand the concept of drivers license and license plates on cars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 6:07:01 PM #41:	Bullet_Wing posted... FairyLeviathan posted... You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease? The hell kind of strawman is that? darkjedilink posted... It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it. What right do you have to know that? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898782984] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FairyLeviathan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease?</quote> The hell kind of strawman is that? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it.</quote> What right do you have to know that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 03/30/18 6:08:04 PM #42:	Bullet_Wing Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:898783041] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing</cite> <quote>Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 6:11:32 PM #43:	Tropicalwood posted... Bullet_Wing Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them. It's like they don't know anything about history. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898783235] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing</cite> <quote>Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them.</quote> It's like they don't know anything about history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 03/30/18 6:16:38 PM #46:	Bullet_Wing posted... darkjedilink posted... Bullet_Wing posted... FairyLeviathan posted... You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease? The hell kind of strawman is that? darkjedilink posted... It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it. What right do you have to know that? Me personally? I don't. What's wrong with the government having that information though? They have car information already among other things. Because gun ownership shouldnt be public knowledge. The fact that I own guns shouldnt show up in my background check when I go apply for a teaching job. With the current stigma associated with firearm ownership being perpetrated by the left wed be treated like registered sex offenders. Fuck that shit. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:898783514] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FairyLeviathan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease?</quote> The hell kind of strawman is that? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it.</quote> What right do you have to know that?</quote> Me personally? I don't. What's wrong with the government having that information though? They have car information already among other things.</quote> Because gun ownership shouldnt be public knowledge. The fact that I own guns shouldnt show up in my background check when I go apply for a teaching job. With the current stigma associated with firearm ownership being perpetrated by the left wed be treated like registered sex offenders. Fuck that shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeyPuff 03/30/18 6:17:18 PM #47:	Id personally own a gun, but I dont give a fuck --- http://imgur.com/anVgnqe Hi, I'm puff_stinks/___ingGorilla http://imgur.com/YtOjPfY Taxin' that ass <cite>HeyPuff posted [p:898783549] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote>Id personally own a gun, but I dont give a fuck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 6:19:42 PM #48:	Cosmic_Diabetic posted... darkjedilink posted... It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? So do you not understand the concept of drivers license and license plates on cars? Apparently you don't - those are only necessary if I drive on public roadways. There is absolutely no legal requirement for any of that if the car stays on my property. We're arguing about something akin to needing to register a car even if it never leaves my garage. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898783692] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cosmic_Diabetic posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> So do you not understand the concept of drivers license and license plates on cars?</quote> Apparently you don't - those are only necessary if I drive on public roadways. There is absolutely no legal requirement for any of that if the car stays on my property. We're arguing about something akin to needing to register a car even if it never leaves my garage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 6:22:17 PM #49:	Bullet_Wing posted... darkjedilink posted... Bullet_Wing posted... FairyLeviathan posted... You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data. Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease? The hell kind of strawman is that? darkjedilink posted... It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own? It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it. What right do you have to know that? Me personally? I don't. What's wrong with the government having that information though? They have car information already among other things. And they abuse that to no end. In 2014 alone, law enforcement in Minnesota illegally accessed that info over 500 time to get women's phone numbers. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898783841] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FairyLeviathan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>You're not giving up any kind of privacy. Do you do personal things with a gun that you don't feel comfortable with people knowing? I really don't see the issue here with guns being registered. It's different than being concerned with surveillance or personal data.</quote> Should LGBT people also have to be documented in case someone gets a sexually transmitted disease?</quote> The hell kind of strawman is that? <cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>It's the same fucking thing. What right do you or the government have to be able to google me and see what I own?</quote> It's not the same thing at all. It's knowing you have a gun and that's literally it.</quote> What right do you have to know that?</quote> Me personally? I don't. What's wrong with the government having that information though? They have car information already among other things.</quote> And they abuse that to no end. In 2014 alone, law enforcement in Minnesota illegally accessed that info over 500 time to get women's phone numbers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/30/18 6:24:38 PM #50:	Bullet_Wing posted... darkjedilink posted... Tropicalwood posted... Bullet_Wing Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem. Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them. It's like they don't know anything about history. If the US ever got to that insane state, you'd have a hell of a lot more to worry about than if the government knew you had weapons or not. Also I find it particularly funny that Trump supporters are using the Nazi Germany comparison to support their argument after constantly whining about others doing the same You realize that Nazi Germany is nowhere near the only example, right? Cuba, Russia, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran - all of these places did the same thing. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:898783986] in American g... [t:76468611]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tropicalwood posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing</cite> <quote>Cut the conspiracy crap. You're on more lists than you can count anyways. I fail to see why people with weapons shouldn't be. I'm completely against confiscation, mind you, but a registry? No problem.</quote> Do you seriously believe a list of all items and their respective owners won't be used to track them down? You realize Nazi Germany says otherwise, particularity when they used their census data to assist them.</quote> It's like they don't know anything about history.</quote> If the US ever got to that insane state, you'd have a hell of a lot more to worry about than if the government knew you had weapons or not. Also I find it particularly funny that Trump supporters are using the Nazi Germany comparison to support their argument after constantly whining about others doing the same</quote> You realize that Nazi Germany is nowhere near the only example, right? Cuba, Russia, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Iran - all of these places did the same thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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