Board 8 > [VGMC] Video Games Music Contest 12 - Bracket and Discussion

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azuarc
04/19/18 8:47:05 PM
#351:


I didn't realize I picked that for a 16. It was more of a matter of I just filled things in from the top-down and that was one of the songs I was left with at the end.

This is also why I don't post the seeds publicly.
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azuarc
04/19/18 10:11:47 PM
#352:


Results, day 31:
Dr. Fetus' Castle > The Tower (Quiet Vocals), 25-11
A Scattered Moment > Don't speak her name!, 19-17
Blue Skies (Infinity Remix) < Deep Forest, 17-19

I thought both the second and third match were really close, and lo and behold, they were!
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xp1337
04/19/18 10:12:52 PM
#353:


The way that match started I thought The Tower might be in line for blowout of the contest and I was =(

17-2 brutal opening.

actually won the remainder of the topic!
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Mac Arrowny
04/19/18 10:22:47 PM
#354:


Amusement Park is very good! Definitely a legit vote for it. Surprised ASM won, but cool.
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FL81
04/20/18 12:04:27 AM
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azuarc
04/20/18 10:31:43 PM
#356:


Results, day 32:
OVERDOSE > In Circles, 22-15
Heavenly Flight > The Last Game We May Ever Play, 21-16
Look Pimpin' < Homecoming Hijinx, 12-24

And thus ends round 1. (Well, one more day for the side bracket.)
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MC_XD
04/20/18 11:49:03 PM
#357:


Time for a whole lot of STATS to celebrate the half way point of the contest!

Match with the most votes:

Final Fantasy VI - Terra VS. Undertale - Battle Against a True Hero
...with 49 votes

Matches with the least votes:

Chaos;Head - fake me VS. Battle Garegga Rev.2016 - Tunnel Vision
Steins;Gate 0 - Messenger VS. Barkley: Shut Up and Jam Gaiden - Main Theme
...each with 31 votes

Matches with the largest winning margins:

Persona 5 - Rivers in the Desert VS. The House in Fata Morgana - Cicio
...with a score of 35 to 7 (most by raw amount, with difference of 28)
Also, Rivers if the Desert recieved the most votes of any song in Round 1

Super Castlevania IV - Simon Belmont's Theme VS. The Evil Within - Long Way Down
...with a score of 29 to 5 (most by %, with difference of 5.8x)
Also, Long Way Down recieved the least votes of any song in Round 1

Matches with the closest winning margins (after tie-breaks):

Master Spy - Mission 3 VS. La-Mulana - Giant's Cry
...with a score of 21 to 20 (closest by %, with difference of 1.06x)

jubeat saucer fulfill - Scars of FAUNA VS. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland - Flash Frost
The Scheme - I'll Save You All My Justice VS. Tekken 7 - Moonsiders 1st
Neotokyo - Scrap I/O VS. Touhou: Concealed the Conclusion - G Free ~ Final Dream
Len'en Reiretsuden ~ Reactivate Majestical Imperial - A Name Cast Off from the Edge VS. Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5 - Fallen Angel
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Salamander VS. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 - Primal Dialga Battle
...are all of the other matches with only a 1 vote difference

Other Song-related Stats:

Average Total Votes in Main Bracket matches: 38.14
Average Total Votes in Side Bracket matches: 36.71
Average Votes for the first listed song in a match: 18.38
Average Votes for the second listed song in a match: 19.29

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Janus5k
04/20/18 11:56:49 PM
#358:


MC_XD posted...
jubeat saucer fulfill - Scars of FAUNA VS. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland - Flash Frost
The Scheme - I'll Save You All My Justice VS. Tekken 7 - Moonsiders 1st
Neotokyo - Scrap I/O VS. Touhou: Concealed the Conclusion - G Free ~ Final Dream
Len'en Reiretsuden ~ Reactivate Majestical Imperial - A Name Cast Off from the Edge VS. Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5 - Fallen Angel
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Salamander VS. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 - Primal Dialga Battle
...are all of the other matches with only a 1 vote difference

Nice, I voted for the loser in all of those
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MC_XD
04/21/18 12:05:23 AM
#359:


User Stats Part 1...

Users who voted in all 95 matches:

dowolf, Ed Bellis, FL81, Janus5k, JONALEON1, KCF0107, Mac Arrowny, MC_XD, MycroProcessor, PSI_NESS, Raetsel_Lapin, Sceptilesolar, tennisboy213, xp1337, xx521xx
...15 users in total

Also NFUN only missed 2 matches, while banshiryuu, Prody Parrot and th3l3fty only missed 3.

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Users who voted 3 or less matches:

5tarscream, Chaeix, Haste_2, Johnbobb, Lightning Strikes, LordoftheMorons, MZero11, Shallie, TsunamiXXVIII, Zigzagoon
...10 users in total

Also Flamander, Mega Mana, SupremeZero only voted in 6 matches, while _Harmonica_ voted in 7

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How often did users (who voted in at least 25 matches) vote for the song that went on to win the match (all matches)?

MC_XD - 74.7%
TheArkOfTurus - 73.6%
th3l3fty - 71.7%
Mac Arrowny - 71.6%
NFUN - 71.0%
Prody Parrot - 70.7%
dowolf - 70.5%
azuarc - 68.2%
Zyxyz0 - 68.1%
MargaretAnnMid - 67.4%
banshiryuu - 67.4%
trdl23 - 67.3%
pyresword - 66.7%
Team Rocket Elite - 66.7%
UF8 - 66.7%
JONALEON1 - 66.3%
Sceptilesolar - 66.3%
xp1337 - 66.3%
Arti - 65.0%
KanzarisKelshen - 64.9%
Menji - 64.3%
DragonImps - 63.6%
malyg - 63.1%
HBJDubs - 62.8%
OrangeCrush980 - 62.5%
Advokaiser - 61.6%
xx521xx - 61.1%
Shonen_Bat - 60.0%
Janus5k - 57.9%
Raetsel_Lapin - 57.9%
Ed Bellis - 56.8%
kaonashi1 - 56.5%
PSI_NESS - 54.7%
tennisboy213 - 54.7%
Mr Lasastryke - 54.5%
barreldragon88 - 54.3%
Xuxon - 54.2%
FL81 - 52.6%
MycroProcessor - 52.6%
KCF0107 - 51.6%
Kikoman589 - 46.2%
Popcorn_Fairy - 41.5%

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How often did users (who voted in at least 25 matches) vote for the song that went on to win the match (main bracket only)?

dowolf - 75.0%
MC_XD - 73.4%
Team Rocket Elite - 72.7%
Zyxyz0 - 72.2%
azuarc - 72.1%
NFUN - 71.4%
Mac Arrowny - 70.3%
trdl23 - 70.0%
th3l3fty - 69.4%
Prody Parrot - 69.4%
banshiryuu - 69.4%
Sceptilesolar - 68.8%
xp1337 - 68.8%
Arti - 68.5%
JONALEON1 - 67.2%
OrangeCrush980 - 65.8%
xx521xx - 65.6%
TheArkOfTurus - 65.1%
MargaretAnnMid - 65.0%
UF8 - 64.9%
KanzarisKelshen - 64.0%
pyresword - 62.3%
Advokaiser - 62.1%
tennisboy213 - 60.9%
Shonen_Bat - 60.8%
malyg - 60.3%
DragonImps - 60.0%
Ed Bellis - 59.4%
HBJDubs - 58.6%
Menji - 57.9%
KCF0107 - 57.8%
Janus5k - 56.3%
Raetsel_Lapin - 56.3%
kaonashi1 - 52.2%
barreldragon88 - 51.6%
MycroProcessor - 51.6%
PSI_NESS - 50.0%
Mr Lasastryke - 48.9%
Xuxon - 46.4%
Popcorn_Fairy - 45.5%
FL81 - 45.3%
Kikoman589 33.3%
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FL81
04/21/18 12:06:21 AM
#360:


Janus5k posted...
MC_XD posted...
jubeat saucer fulfill - Scars of FAUNA VS. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland - Flash Frost
The Scheme - I'll Save You All My Justice VS. Tekken 7 - Moonsiders 1st
Neotokyo - Scrap I/O VS. Touhou: Concealed the Conclusion - G Free ~ Final Dream
Len'en Reiretsuden ~ Reactivate Majestical Imperial - A Name Cast Off from the Edge VS. Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5 - Fallen Angel
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Salamander VS. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 - Primal Dialga Battle
...are all of the other matches with only a 1 vote difference

Nice, I voted for the loser in all of those

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MC_XD
04/21/18 12:40:58 AM
#361:


User Stats Part 2...

For pairs of voters which voted in the same match at least 25 times:

The number of times they voted for the same song is as follows...

Top 5 most compatible pairs:
1st - NFUN and Prody Parrot - 78.9%
2nd - JONALEON1 and MycroProcessor - 75.8%
3rd - pyresword and trdl23 - 73.5%
4th - MC_XD and OrangeCrush980 - 73.2%
5th - KanzarisKelshen and MargaretAnnMid - 73.0%

The 5 least compatible pairs:
1st - Kikoman589 and Sceptilesolar - 23.1%
2nd - Kikoman589 and MC_XD - 26.9%
3rd - OrangeCrush980 and Popcorn_Fairy - 29.6%
4th - MycroProcessor and Shonen_Bat - 30.7%
5th - Kikoman589 and Advokaiser, Kikoman589 and NFUN - both 30.8%

The ones with the most highly compatible partners (>=70%):
3 - trdl23 (w/ azuarc, DragonImps, pyresword)
2 - Arti (w/ Menji, OrangeCrush980)
2 - DragonImps (w/ PSI_NESS, trdl23)
2 - KanzarisKelshen (w/ MargaretAnnMid, Shonen_Bat)
2 - MC_XD (w/ OrangeCrush980, Team Rocket Elite)
2 - MycroProcessor (w/ JONALEON1, kaonashi1)
2 - OrangeCrush980 (w/ Arti, MC_XD)
2 - Prody Parrot (w/ Janus5k, NFUN)

The ones with the most highly incompatible partners (<=35%):
6 - Kikoman589 (w/ Advokaiser, MC_XD, NFUN, Sceptilesolar, tennisboy213, xp1337)
...nobody else has more than 1, lol
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MC_XD
04/21/18 12:43:18 AM
#363:


If anyone wants me to figure out any other stats, let me know!

In the meantime, you can view your own full set of compatibilities here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18JVQhItuL58c-xnA0tZQDP4bf_-xBDD7_azN8qgVm1w/edit#gid=1471158563
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trdl23
04/21/18 5:52:04 AM
#364:


If only I had so many compatible partners in my love life...
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xp1337
04/21/18 7:26:11 AM
#365:


Janus5k posted...
MC_XD posted...
jubeat saucer fulfill - Scars of FAUNA VS. Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland - Flash Frost
The Scheme - I'll Save You All My Justice VS. Tekken 7 - Moonsiders 1st
Neotokyo - Scrap I/O VS. Touhou: Concealed the Conclusion - G Free ~ Final Dream
Len'en Reiretsuden ~ Reactivate Majestical Imperial - A Name Cast Off from the Edge VS. Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune 5 - Fallen Angel
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk - Salamander VS. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2 - Primal Dialga Battle
...are all of the other matches with only a 1 vote difference

Nice, I voted for the loser in all of those

Nice, I voted for the winner in all of those!
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FL81
04/21/18 12:43:50 PM
#366:


ILq4fHs

This is the worst I've ever performed in a VGMC. Granted, a few of my actual votes might've changed from my favorites bracket, but the stats posted by @MC_XD don't paint a better picture for me.
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Sceptilesolar
04/21/18 2:29:09 PM
#367:


Never stake anything on the ability for Touhou songs to win matches of VGMC. Rule to live by.
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KCF0107
04/21/18 2:41:55 PM
#368:


I was expecting to see an appearance in the lesser compatibility mentions
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Advokaiser
04/21/18 2:51:49 PM
#369:


MC_XD posted...
User Stats Part 1...

Users who voted in all 95 matches:

dowolf, Ed Bellis, FL81, Janus5k, JONALEON1, KCF0107, Mac Arrowny, MC_XD, MycroProcessor, PSI_NESS, Raetsel_Lapin, Sceptilesolar, tennisboy213, xp1337, xx521xx
...15 users in total

Also NFUN only missed 2 matches, while banshiryuu, Prody Parrot and th3l3fty only missed 3.


I also missed 3 as well, didn't I? But dang it, if I knew that I would be on a ranking like this, I would've done my best to participate in all 95 matches...

MC_XD posted...
User Stats Part 2...

The 5 least compatible pairs:
5th - Kikoman589 and Advokaiser, Kikoman589 and NFUN - both 30.8%

The ones with the most highly incompatible partners (<=35%):
6 - Kikoman589 (w/ Advokaiser, MC_XD, NFUN, Sceptilesolar, tennisboy213, xp1337)
...nobody else has more than 1, lol


This is so ironic considering Kikoman and I nominated the same two Castlevania songs in the Nom Phase.

But what's the difference between "incompatible pairs" and "incompatible partners"?
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MC_XD
04/21/18 3:19:57 PM
#370:


Incompatible pairs and partners mean the same thing. I just used the word interchangeably. I should probably be more consistent.

Also you missed Topics 18, 20 and 27, which is 9 matches total.
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Advokaiser
04/21/18 3:33:07 PM
#371:


Oh, that makes sense.
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MC_XD
04/21/18 3:55:41 PM
#372:


Lefty wanted me to do something like this, so have some more stats:

MC_XD - 0.587
Prody Parrot - 0.580
NFUN - 0.576
Dowolf - 0.570
Banshiryuu - 0.568
TheArkOfTurus - 0.566
Sceptilesolar - 0.565
Azuarc - 0.564
Th3l3fty - 0.562
HBJDubs - 0.557
Janus5k - 0.557
Mac Arrowny - 0.557
Advokaiser - 0.556
Team Rocket Elite - 0.555
Pyresword - 0.553
Arti - 0.552
MargaretAnnMid - 0.551
Malyg - 0.547
JONALEON1 - 0.546
Raetsel_Lapin - 0.546
Xp1337 - 0.544
Zyxyz0 - 0.542
OrangeCrush980 - 0.540
UF8 - 0.540
DragonImps - 0.539
Trdl23 - 0.538
Mr Lasastryke - 0.533
Xx521xx - 0.533
Tennisboy213 - 0.529
Menji - 0.528
PSI_NESS - 0.528
Shonen_Bat - 0.526
FL81 - 0.523
KanzarisKelshen - 0.523
Barreldragon88 - 0.522
Kaonashi1 - 0.516
Xuxon - 0.516
MycroProcessor - 0.515
Ed Bellis - 0.508
Kikoman589 - 0.503
KCF0107 - 0.502
Popcorn_Fairy - 0.486

These are the average portions of votes that songs you voted for received in their matches. So my score of 0.587 for example means that for all of the songs I voted for, they received, on average, 58.7% of the votes in their matches. Thus, bigger number means you voted for songs with lots of votes, while smaller number means you voted for songs with fewer votes.

This is an alternate way to do an "outlier list", since it checks how "with the crowd you were" vote by vote, rather than just whether or not you picked the winner. Thus, higher score means your tastes are more in line with the rest of board 8, while a lower score means you're more different. You could also see this as a measure of "vote importance", since a higher score means you mainly voted for songs which had a ton of votes anyway, so your vote mattered less.

I'd use this system to generate compatibilities, but unfortunately that'd be a few hours work and I don't have that kind of time at the moment. Maybe for the end of the project.
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barreldragon88
04/21/18 5:00:44 PM
#373:


I recall only failing to submit my votes for one day
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NFUN
04/21/18 5:02:01 PM
#374:


One of the matches I abstained, not missed
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azuarc
04/21/18 6:03:36 PM
#375:


I sure don't feel like I voted for 72% of winners.
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MC_XD
04/22/18 2:48:29 AM
#376:


barreldragon88 posted...
I recall only failing to submit my votes for one day


You're correct actually, I should have had you listed as one of the ones who missed 3 matches. Sorry about missing you.

NFUN posted...
One of the matches I abstained, not missed


I'm aware, but I don't distinguish between the two scenarios for stats tracking purposes.
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tennisboy213
04/22/18 8:12:16 AM
#377:


since I can't stand voting in the next set of matches without knowing the previous results

unofficial results, day 33

Beneath the Mask < Battle Against a True Hero, 16-21
Spiral of Erebos < Mystic Pendulum, 18-19
Nilin the Memory Hunter > Never to Return (Dissidents), 24-11
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KCF0107
04/22/18 1:55:18 PM
#378:


So my noms went 3-2 in first round, albeit 1-2 in the main bracket.
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Advokaiser
04/22/18 3:24:09 PM
#379:


tennisboy213 posted...
Beneath the Mask < Battle Against a True Hero, 16-21


Nice!
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azuarc
04/22/18 6:09:33 PM
#380:


tennisboy213 posted...
since I can't stand voting in the next set of matches without knowing the previous results

unofficial results, day 33

Beneath the Mask < Battle Against a True Hero, 16-21
Spiral of Erebos < Mystic Pendulum, 18-19
Nilin the Memory Hunter > Never to Return (Dissidents), 24-11

Confirmed.
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Advokaiser
04/22/18 7:58:01 PM
#381:


Wow, forgot how freakin' epic Laguerra Del Mundo sounds; I just realized I didn't even think of it as a favorites' discovery from the contest in Round 1 (I considered Cosmic Hero the first one and went on that thought for the rest of Round 1); and it's ironically one of my favorite discoveries from the contest.
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trdl23
04/22/18 8:46:03 PM
#382:


Sigh... I guess I'm done nominating Supergiant stuff now.
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azuarc
04/22/18 11:41:17 PM
#383:


Results day 34:
One Night In Neo Kobe City < Laguerra del Mundo, 17-20
Gusty Garden Galaxy < Deadman falling, 15-22
A Continental Gale > Melodies of Life, 19-17

Close matches. Deadman Falling pulled away a little, but at one point I think all three matches were tied at 10-10.
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th3l3fty
04/22/18 11:42:00 PM
#384:


round 2 has been very bad so far
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xp1337
04/22/18 11:43:37 PM
#385:


th3l3fty posted...
round 2 has been very bad so far

mystic pendulum won it's okay still
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Janus5k
04/22/18 11:45:36 PM
#386:


Melodies of Life losing is very bad I agree
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04/22/18 11:45:37 PM
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NFUN
04/22/18 11:47:18 PM
#388:


Laguerra del Mundo moved on that's all that matters

gokinjo better win
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pyresword
04/22/18 11:50:07 PM
#389:


Janus5k posted...
Melodies of Life losing is very bad I agree

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Mac Arrowny
04/23/18 12:19:36 AM
#390:


th3l3fty posted...
round 2 has been very bad so far


too many Melodies of Life fanboys in here
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Arti
04/23/18 10:22:49 AM
#391:


pyresword posted...
Janus5k posted...
Melodies of Life losing is very bad I agree

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Advokaiser
04/23/18 10:27:00 AM
#392:


I almost voted for Melodies of Life, I even did my write-up justifying my vote, but soon after I changed my mind and my write-up.
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Kikoman589
04/23/18 10:56:30 AM
#393:


MC_XD posted...
How often did users (who voted in at least 25 matches) vote for the song that went on to win the match (all matches)?

Kikoman589 - 46.2%

How often did users (who voted in at least 25 matches) vote for the song that went on to win the match (main bracket only)?

Kikoman589 33.3%


MC_XD posted...
For pairs of voters which voted in the same match at least 25 times:

The 5 least compatible pairs:
1st - Kikoman589 and Sceptilesolar - 23.1%
2nd - Kikoman589 and MC_XD - 26.9%
5th - Kikoman589 and Advokaiser, Kikoman589 and NFUN - both 30.8%

The ones with the most highly incompatible partners (<=35%):
6 - Kikoman589 (w/ Advokaiser, MC_XD, NFUN, Sceptilesolar, tennisboy213, xp1337)
...nobody else has more than 1, lol


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azuarc
04/23/18 12:59:47 PM
#394:


Ouch. You know what that means, though, right?

Go recruit more people to vote in the contest. =)
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KCF0107
04/23/18 1:10:00 PM
#395:


R2 kicked off with every song I voted for losing!
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04/23/18 1:12:40 PM
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NFUN
04/23/18 1:55:18 PM
#397:


pls don't die gokinjo
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th3l3fty
04/23/18 4:56:50 PM
#398:


Mac Arrowny posted...
th3l3fty posted...
round 2 has been very bad so far


too many Melodies of Life fanboys in here

Melodies losing is the best part of round 2 yet!
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pyresword
04/23/18 7:41:08 PM
#399:


At least we still have an admittedly inferior JRPG vocal song in the main bracket which managed to survive round 2.

edit: plus probably another one today which is not what this post is referring to.
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azuarc
04/23/18 10:41:54 PM
#400:


The I-haven't-checked-to-see-if-I-screwed-up-and-there-are-close-results Results for day 35:

Normal Battle < Sayonara (All Phase Mix), 17-21
cheap treasure < Rivers in the Desert, 11-26
Xeus > The Whims Of Fate, 19-17

I could swear when I went back to do a quick count, Xeus had 19, not less, so I doubt that'll be overturned. Turns out this is not the year of Gokinjo. Year of Persona 5, maybe. Rivers is well positions to keep chugging.
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