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Vulgorn
03/11/18 11:42:41 PM
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It's like people can't see the difference between nerdy dudes sexualizing females and nerdy dudes sexualizing dudes.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/11/18 11:42:42 PM
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What IS a sexualized male?

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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:42:46 PM
#53:


CiIantro posted...
The fact is: video game designers know that most players are horny males, so they market their games to them to make more money. That is why women are so sexualized in video games. Don't try to deny it.

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Denzien_of_Sega
03/11/18 11:43:00 PM
#54:


CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

Deflecting already? C'mon TC.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:43:23 PM
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Darmik posted...
Soul Calibur character design peaked in SC2. It has been downhill since then.

Remember when they marketed an SC game by showing Ivy's tits and nothing else

no but i remember when they marketed an SC game by showing Ivy's tits and Voldo's sweet ass
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Prestoff
03/11/18 11:43:28 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA posted...
CiIantro posted...
This armor isn't even functional, and almost every game has women like this.

Neither is this one

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/soulcalibur/images/2/24/VoldoSC.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20080303082107


To be fair, I don't think women are going to wank to Voldo anytime soon. But I think you make a good point about the purpose of certain characters. Ivy is a dominatrix, so it's par for the course that she's going to have absolutely ridiculous unpractical outfits, same with Voldo have very obscure and hilarious outfit.
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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:43:38 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

ok educate us

Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.
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NINExATExSEVEN
03/11/18 11:43:47 PM
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So what's the problem with creating sexy sexualized looking females in games?

Where is the issue exactly? How does any of this affect anybody?
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MakoReizei
03/11/18 11:44:10 PM
#59:


CiIantro posted...
The fact is: video game designers know that most players are horny males, so they market their games to them to make more money. That is why women are so sexualized in video games. Don't try to deny it.

So what's wrong with that exactly

most of the audience for romance novels are women, and they always feature a sexualized man on the cover.
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Mist_Turnips
03/11/18 11:44:25 PM
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Guys, you are doing this wrong. Do not respond in words. Just spam sexy female character pics/gifs until TC gets an aneurysm.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:44:40 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41590/825162-raiden_naked__article_image.jpg
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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:45:28 PM
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NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what's the problem with creating sexy sexualized looking females in games?

Where is the issue exactly? How does any of this affect anybody?

Oh, I actually don't have a huge problem with it lol. I think it is kind of tacky, and completely absurd that neckbeards shit down both legs when you mention it.
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Comfy_Pillow
03/11/18 11:46:17 PM
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post your opinion of what a "sexualized male" looks like then OP. Since basically everything is apparently a straight male fantasy somehow.
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Alexanaxela
03/11/18 11:46:26 PM
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xfd tc doesn't know what girls like
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RuffledPeanuts
03/11/18 11:47:18 PM
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CiIantro posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
And men arent?


https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ultimateallstars/images/2/2d/MitSC4art1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131204221024

Of course not.

That is not sexualization. That is appealing to the male player's desire to be a badass. Most people aren't into overly-muscled freaks.

This topic is a parody, right?
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NINExATExSEVEN
03/11/18 11:47:29 PM
#66:


CiIantro posted...
NINExATExSEVEN posted...
So what's the problem with creating sexy sexualized looking females in games?

Where is the issue exactly? How does any of this affect anybody?

Oh, I actually don't have a huge problem with it lol. I think it is kind of tacky, and completely absurd that neckbeards shit down both legs when you mention it.


Ok fair enough. I personally think it's cringy when dudes create pretty looking female characters instead of badass looking female characters, but each their own right.
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 11:48:09 PM
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People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?
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KingCrabCake
03/11/18 11:48:56 PM
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CiIantro posted...


KvSAF1o


Now i know youre trolling. Tagged accordingly
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cuttin_in_farm
03/11/18 11:49:15 PM
#69:


CiIantro posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

ok educate us

Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.


Bro, you can't speak for women. Just like some men don't dig the balloon boobs of characters like Ivy, women aren't a hive mind in interest. Creators follow a simple mindset.

Men like boobs. Characters will have exaggerated boobs.

Women like muscles. Characters will have exaggerated muscles.

Characters will wear clothing that bests showcases said factors.

It's generally not that complicated. Nor should much thought go into it. Chao.
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Banana_Cyanide
03/11/18 11:50:36 PM
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joestarrr posted...
Well.....yeah.

It's unfortunate, but until there are a significantly greater portion of women working in the video game industry, along with a greater nerd culture shift towards inclusivity, this will be the norm.

I am in love with this post right now because I can say with certainty that it was made under the assumption that women in the industry aren't the ones designing these characters or that more women in the industry will somehow change things.

Hint: It won't
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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:51:10 PM
#71:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
CiIantro posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

ok educate us

Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.


Bro, you can't speak for women. Just like some men don't dig the balloon boobs of characters like Ivy, women aren't a hive mind in interest. Creators follow a simple mindset.

Men like boobs. Characters will have exaggerated boobs.

Women like muscles. Characters will have exaggerated muscles.

Characters will wear clothing that bests showcases said factors.

It's generally not that complicated. Nor should much thought go into it. Chao.

Dude, I can guarantee you that 99% of women would rather have a college jock than a musclebound freak. Most video game guys land in the latter category.
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 11:51:57 PM
#72:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
CiIantro posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

ok educate us

Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.


Bro, you can't speak for women. Just like some men don't dig the balloon boobs of characters like Ivy, women aren't a hive mind in interest. Creators follow a simple mindset.

Men like boobs. Characters will have exaggerated boobs.

Women like muscles. Characters will have exaggerated muscles.

Characters will wear clothing that bests showcases said factors.

It's generally not that complicated. Nor should much thought go into it. Chao.


Why do they focus so much on boobs and so little on ass with women characters is the question we should be asking here. Aside from 2B and Mass Effect, its pancake asses with floatation device chests left and right.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:52:19 PM
#73:


CiIantro posted...
Dude, I can guarantee you that 99% of women would rather have a college jock than a musclebound freak. Most video game guys land in the latter category.

DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41590/825162-raiden_naked__article_image.jpg

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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:52:26 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?

I can agree with that. I DO wish that it were more equitable between the genders though. Aside from what people here are saying (because they are not attracted to men and have no reference point of understanding), male characters do not get the same treatment.
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Bad_Mojo
03/11/18 11:52:38 PM
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Post the men from that series, please. They also have little clothes on that wouldn't protect shit.
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Darmik
03/11/18 11:53:16 PM
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Tbh I don't really see the shitty 'boob armour in a serious game' sorta stuff much anymore. I think these days you do have to actually play pervy games to see that sorta stuff outside of the odd Japanese game.

I don't see anything like Prince of Persia: Warrior Within these days.
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I_Stay_Noided
03/11/18 11:53:41 PM
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cuttin_in_farm
03/11/18 11:53:51 PM
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CiIantro posted...
cuttin_in_farm posted...
CiIantro posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
lol you guys are absolutely clueless about what makes a man attractive. Color me surprised.

ok educate us

Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.


Bro, you can't speak for women. Just like some men don't dig the balloon boobs of characters like Ivy, women aren't a hive mind in interest. Creators follow a simple mindset.

Men like boobs. Characters will have exaggerated boobs.

Women like muscles. Characters will have exaggerated muscles.

Characters will wear clothing that bests showcases said factors.

It's generally not that complicated. Nor should much thought go into it. Chao.

Dude, I can guarantee you that 99% of women would rather have a college jock than a musclebound freak. Most video game guys land in the latter category.


I'm sure most dudes prefer a woman with proportions instead of "Steel sand in a bag" Ivy, but that's what the word exaggerated means.

And most characters aren't "freaks". Zangief is a freak. Most characters aren't like him though.

Subjective gauging aside.
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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:54:14 PM
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DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
Dude, I can guarantee you that 99% of women would rather have a college jock than a musclebound freak. Most video game guys land in the latter category.

DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
Normal, non-freak level athleticism. The ONLY game I have seen that portrays guys like this is the Final Fantasy series (Cloud/Noctis type bodies), but even then they arent presented in a gratuitous manner.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41590/825162-raiden_naked__article_image.jpg

Sure, but that is one character. The vast majority of male characters do not qualify. Female characters are sexualized FAR more than male characters.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:54:15 PM
#81:


Captain_Qwark posted...
any type of attractive or sexual women - "sexualized just for horny men"
any type of attractive or sexual man - "fantasy for straight men"

okay then

I guess games need to start putting in only ugly women and male characters with dad bods?

yes because women dont find half naked muscley men attractive, which means my mom loves buff bagwell for his personality
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 11:54:24 PM
#82:


CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?

I can agree with that. I DO wish that it were more equitable between the genders though. Aside from what people here are saying (because they are not attracted to men and have no reference point of understanding), male characters do not get the same treatment.


I dunno, I know plenty of female gamers who go gaga over male gaming characters too.
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masticatingman
03/11/18 11:55:15 PM
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Squall28 posted...
ok

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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:56:05 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?

I can agree with that. I DO wish that it were more equitable between the genders though. Aside from what people here are saying (because they are not attracted to men and have no reference point of understanding), male characters do not get the same treatment.


I dunno, I know plenty of female gamers who go gaga over male gaming characters too.

It is absolutely undeniable that female characters are sexualized MUCH more often than male. Most gamers are male, so companies have an incentive to do so.
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cuttin_in_farm
03/11/18 11:57:07 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Sure, but that is one character. The vast majority of male characters do not qualify. Female characters are sexualized FAR more than male characters.


This I agree with. But this is media in general. There's a reason it's always the pretty wife with the fat husband and not vice versa.
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CiIantro
03/11/18 11:57:31 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
DocileOrangeCup posted...
Captain_Qwark posted...
any type of attractive or sexual women - "sexualized just for horny men"
any type of attractive or sexual man - "fantasy for straight men"

okay then

I guess games need to start putting in only ugly women and male characters with dad bods?

yes because women dont find half naked muscley men attractive, which means my mom loves buff bagwell for his personality


Even my hardcore feminist friends/acquaintances went and saw the chip and dale dancers for bachelorette parties.

Yeah, but those dancers do not have bodies like most video game males. Most gaming males have freak-level muscles. Maybe freak-level boobs are hot, but that does not translate to the male body. There is a reason you almost never see pro-bodybuilders in advertisements. They are not the ideal body type.
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Zodd3224
03/11/18 11:57:41 PM
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CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?

I can agree with that. I DO wish that it were more equitable between the genders though. Aside from what people here are saying (because they are not attracted to men and have no reference point of understanding), male characters do not get the same treatment.


I dunno, I know plenty of female gamers who go gaga over male gaming characters too.

It is absolutely undeniable that female characters are sexualized MUCH more often than male. Most gamers are male, so companies have an incentive to do so.


More so? Yes. But that is true of society as a whole, not just gaming.
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RuffledPeanuts
03/11/18 11:58:00 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
any type of attractive or sexual women - "sexualized just for horny men"
any type of attractive or sexual man - "fantasy for straight men"

okay then

I guess games need to start putting in only ugly women and male characters with dad bods?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6PJEmEHIaY" data-time="

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CasualGuy
03/11/18 11:58:14 PM
#90:


CiIantro posted...
It is absolutely undeniable that female characters are sexualized MUCH more often than male. Most gamers are male, so companies have an incentive to do so.


If most gamers are male then most games should cater to what men want. If ladies want something different then they should speak with their wallets.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:58:41 PM
#91:


CiIantro posted...
Sure, but that is one character. The vast majority of male characters do not qualify. Female characters are sexualized FAR more than male characters.

in that game it's the other way. you have olga who is sort of sexualized and fortune who is sexualized, but also vamp raiden and snake who are even more sexualized.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwNJhORIUAA83a9.png

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Duqpuwjh85VGTYDPxiyiuP.jpg
literally nintendo
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DocileOrangeCup
03/11/18 11:59:31 PM
#92:


CiIantro posted...
Yeah, but those dancers do not have bodies like most video game males. Most gaming males have freak-level muscles. Maybe freak-level boobs are hot, but that does not translate to the male body. There is a reason you almost never see pro-bodybuilders in advertisements. They are not the ideal body type.

ive never seen a video game character like the bodybuilder you posted though
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Prestoff
03/11/18 11:59:42 PM
#93:


Zodd3224 posted...
CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
CiIantro posted...
Zodd3224 posted...
People enjoy looking at beautiful people. There is a place for media that is more realistic, but entertainment is mostly an escape from reality. And who wants to regularly escape to a fantasy world comprised of Walmart shoppers?

I can agree with that. I DO wish that it were more equitable between the genders though. Aside from what people here are saying (because they are not attracted to men and have no reference point of understanding), male characters do not get the same treatment.


I dunno, I know plenty of female gamers who go gaga over male gaming characters too.

It is absolutely undeniable that female characters are sexualized MUCH more often than male. Most gamers are male, so companies have an incentive to do so.


More so? Yes. But that is true of society as a whole, not just gaming.


Not really, it depends on the industry. Gaming as a whole will always have more sexualized female characters, but if you go to an industry that is primarily female like the erotica romance novels, you will often see more sexualized males on the cover than a sexualized female.
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CiIantro
03/12/18 12:00:26 AM
#94:


DocileOrangeCup posted...
CiIantro posted...
Yeah, but those dancers do not have bodies like most video game males. Most gaming males have freak-level muscles. Maybe freak-level boobs are hot, but that does not translate to the male body. There is a reason you almost never see pro-bodybuilders in advertisements. They are not the ideal body type.

ive never seen a video game character like the bodybuilder you posted though

Post #4 ITT. Far more muscular than any guy you will ever see at Chip & Dales.
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Delta_F14
03/12/18 12:00:53 AM
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This is a bad gimmick.
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El Mexicano Texano
03/12/18 12:02:18 AM
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Go read some novels or go to the book section at Walgreens, Walmart and Target you will see a bunch of shirtless guys in the covers and if you happen to see a female she's usually wearing some Van Helsing type of clothes or a vampire hunter clothes/armor or holding a weapon
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jayj350
03/12/18 12:02:20 AM
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It is Japanese developers. They are favored by manchildren.
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DocileOrangeCup
03/12/18 12:03:03 AM
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CiIantro posted...
Post #4 ITT. Far more muscular than any guy you will ever see at Chip & Dales.

what

there isnt a pic in that post
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03/12/18 12:05:47 AM
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