Current Events > Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson killed by drunk driving deported illegal alien

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3
KazumaKiryu
02/05/18 11:50:09 AM
#1:


http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/02/05/edwin-jackson-indianapolis-colts-linebacker-was-killed-by-illegal-immigrant-police-say.html

The suspected drunk driver who killed Indianapolis Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson in a crash on the morning of the Super Bowl is a Guatemalan citizen who is in the U.S. illegally and has been deported twice, police revealed Monday.

Indiana State Police identified the driver of an F-150 truck in the incident as Manuel Orrego-Savala, 37, who had been deported in 2007 and 2009.

State police investigators are working with U.S. Federal Immigration Officials and they have placed a hold on Orrego-Savala, police said in a statement.

Jackson, 26, and Jeffrey Monroe, 54, also in his vehicle, were hit and killed around 4 a.m. on Sunday on Interstate 70 in Indiana.

Orrego-Savala fled the scene but was arrested shortly thereafter by the responding officer. He then gave police the alias of Alex Cabrera Gonsales. Jail records viewed by Fox News on Monday morning said Orrego-Savala, under the alias of Gonsales, was driving without a license and is believed to have a blood alcohol level of .15 at the time of the crash.

It was not immediately clear when Orrego-Savala re-entered the U.S. after being deported in 2009. But Indiana State Police Sgt. John Perrine told Fox News that Orrego-Savala has used the Gonsales alias enough times "to create a paper trail."


Fucking disgusting.
---
Just your bad luck... to run into me.
... Copied to Clipboard!
mustang90
02/05/18 11:53:42 AM
#2:


Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants since the man killed was a black NFL player.
... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu
02/05/18 11:54:28 AM
#3:


mustang90 posted...
Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants since the man killed was a black NFL player.


Trump has no war on immigrants. Don't call this piece of shit murderer an immigrant. He is a criminal alien.
---
Just your bad luck... to run into me.
... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone
02/05/18 11:54:41 AM
#4:


mustang90 posted...
Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants since the man killed was a black NFL player.

he will.

in fact. being him being black will make him a more useful prop to republicans
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess
02/05/18 11:54:49 AM
#5:


mustang90 posted...
Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants


*illegal
---
To err is human
To arr is pirate
... Copied to Clipboard!
#6
Post #6 was unavailable or deleted.
darkphoenix181
02/05/18 11:55:52 AM
#7:


Unfortunate.

And wow that guy must love the USA. I wonder if he waves the USA flag loud and proud at his house.
---
chill02 to me: you are beautiful
... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka
02/05/18 11:56:28 AM
#8:


Vehicular homicide while driving drunk should be a lifelong prison sentence.
---
Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar
02/05/18 11:56:29 AM
#9:


Bloodychess posted...
*illegal

The policies he is recommending as part of this campaign would slash legal immigration by nearly half.
---
kin to all that throbs
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 1:49:28 PM
#10:


Antifar posted...
Bloodychess posted...
*illegal

The policies he is recommending as part of this campaign would slash legal immigration by nearly half.

So?
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish
02/05/18 1:51:22 PM
#11:


It was pretty obvious reading the story yesterday that the shitbag drunk was an illegal alien who shouldn't even have been in the country. It's a shame we have so many people with a hard on for ignoring immigration law and outright obstructing the passage of laws to make scum like this asshole pay for coming back after being thrown out.
---
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6
02/05/18 1:55:50 PM
#12:


I'm excited to see conservatives outraged over this, yet say nothing about the fact that there have been like 11 school shootings so far this year.
---
Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and XBOX Live: billcom6
My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs
... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6
02/05/18 1:56:31 PM
#13:


ThePrinceFish posted...
It was pretty obvious reading the story yesterday that the shitbag drunk was an illegal alien who shouldn't even have been in the country. It's a shame we have so many people with a hard on for ignoring immigration law and outright obstructing the passage of laws to make scum like this asshole pay for coming back after being thrown out.


So how exactly would you punish someone who has come into the country illegally after previously being arrested and deported?
---
Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and XBOX Live: billcom6
My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs
... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR
02/05/18 1:57:03 PM
#14:


... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS
02/05/18 1:57:12 PM
#15:


ThePrinceFish posted...
It was pretty obvious reading the story yesterday that the shitbag drunk was an illegal alien who shouldn't even have been in the country.

it was obvious? how? you instantly assumed that but what made it obvious to you?
---
Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1
... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman
02/05/18 1:58:22 PM
#16:


billcom6 posted...
I'm excited to see conservatives outraged over this, yet say nothing about the fact that there have been like 11 school shootings so far this year.


This sounds like an unhealthy obsession.
---
I am basically am I. Well, basically.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar
02/05/18 1:58:44 PM
#17:


darkjedilink posted...
So?

So it's weird to make the "illegal" distinction as made in post #5.
---
kin to all that throbs
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral
02/05/18 1:59:48 PM
#18:


mustang90 posted...
Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants since the man killed was a black NFL player.


Liberals need to stop confusing immigrants with illegals.
---
- The Admiral
... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger
02/05/18 1:59:51 PM
#19:


would you make this topic if a legal citizen killed him the same way?
---
-Only dead fish swim with the current
http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html
... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6
02/05/18 2:00:22 PM
#20:


spudger posted...
would you make this topic if a legal citizen killed him the same way?

what color is he?
---
Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and XBOX Live: billcom6
My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs
... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePrinceFish
02/05/18 2:00:35 PM
#21:


billcom6 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
It was pretty obvious reading the story yesterday that the shitbag drunk was an illegal alien who shouldn't even have been in the country. It's a shame we have so many people with a hard on for ignoring immigration law and outright obstructing the passage of laws to make scum like this asshole pay for coming back after being thrown out.


So how exactly would you punish someone who has come into the country illegally after previously being arrested and deported?

Charge them with a felony and lock them up for several years before deporting them again.
TheVipaGTS posted...
it was obvious? how? you instantly assumed that but what made it obvious to you?

Because I'm a racist or some shit.
---
Dielman on Rivers: "I've tried to get him to say s--- or f--- and all he'll ever do is say, 'Golly gee, I can't do that."
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS
02/05/18 2:01:51 PM
#22:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Because I'm a racist or some shit.

i never said that...you said it was obvious. i'm asking how it was obvious to you...the article i read from earlier just said he fled the scene and was caught later....legal citizens have done that countless times so i don't see how it makes it "obvious"....
---
Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1
... Copied to Clipboard!
spudger
02/05/18 2:02:32 PM
#23:


billcom6 posted...
spudger posted...
would you make this topic if a legal citizen killed him the same way?

what color is he?

exactly
---
-Only dead fish swim with the current
http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 2:05:06 PM
#24:


Antifar posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So?

So it's weird to make the "illegal" distinction as made in post #5.

Illegal immigration is the target, though.
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 2:06:03 PM
#25:


spudger posted...
would you make this topic if a legal citizen killed him the same way?

Probably, seeing as how it's still very newsworthy.
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar
02/05/18 2:10:07 PM
#26:


darkjedilink posted...
Illegal immigration is the target, though.

What does ending family migration or the visa lottery or reducing the amount of refugees we take in do to target illegal immigration?
---
kin to all that throbs
... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR
02/05/18 2:14:00 PM
#27:


Antifar posted...
darkjedilink posted...
So?

So it's weird to make the "illegal" distinction as made in post #5.


As a legal immigrant, speak for yourself. #MAGA
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Eat More Beef
02/05/18 2:14:17 PM
#28:


Yeah, I don't get why it matters if he was illegal or not. The point is, some shitbird got drunk and drove a vehicle, killing people. Mother fuckers should rot in jail.

Seriously. Don't drink and fucking drive!
---
I wrote a horror short story collection. You can check it out, and other free short stories at http://www.aarondeck.com
... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR
02/05/18 2:14:34 PM
#29:


... Copied to Clipboard!
KazumaKiryu
02/05/18 2:15:40 PM
#30:


Eat More Beef posted...
Yeah, I don't get why it matters if he was illegal or not. The point is, some shitbird got drunk and drove a vehicle, killing people. Mother fuckers should rot in jail.

Seriously. Don't drink and fucking drive!


No, the point is that we deport scumbags like this over and over and they just come right back.
---
Just your bad luck... to run into me.
... Copied to Clipboard!
flussence
02/05/18 2:16:03 PM
#31:


KazumaKiryu posted...
Trump has no war on immigrants.

https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/958839175977033728
---
u
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria
02/05/18 2:21:22 PM
#32:


mustang90 posted...
Itll be interesting to see if Trump uses this example in his war on immigrants since the man killed was a black NFL player.


Ak5cXli
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_
02/05/18 2:22:48 PM
#33:


What the idiot Fox n Friend lovers fail to realize is the the guy has already been deported twice, so the whole "close the border" narrative doesn't apply here because this dude was already shipped back and still made it back in.

Also, drunk drivers in general need to be dealt with harshly - even more so than they are, but the right/far-right seem to only care about these things when it suits their narrative/politics/propaganda.

I really wish you all cared regularly and not when it suits you.

Same goes with police brutality/shootings; the only time you bring up that "white people are shot by cops, too" is when someone on the other side of that argument brings up black people wrongfully shot/killed by cops - but at all points in between you don't even care - your own people are nothing more than statistics to suit your argument.

I actually do think our immigration policies and illegal deportation laws/policies could be tightened up a bit, but we really do need to clean up our own dirty laundry first before playing the "whattabout" games.
---
R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime
|Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg.
... Copied to Clipboard!
zH0mPfR
02/05/18 2:24:10 PM
#34:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
this dude was already shipped back and still made it back in.


Thanks to liberals.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_
02/05/18 2:26:59 PM
#35:


zH0mPfR posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
this dude was already shipped back and still made it back in.


Thanks to liberals.

"Oh grrr dem damned librrrrrlllls."

Why don't you and your cronies pool together your money and build that damn wall?
---
R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime
|Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg.
... Copied to Clipboard!
#36
Post #36 was unavailable or deleted.
KazumaKiryu
02/05/18 2:28:15 PM
#37:


_OujiDoza_ posted...
What the idiot Fox n Friend lovers fail to realize is the the guy has already been deported twice, so the whole "close the border" narrative doesn't apply here because this dude was already shipped back and still made it back in.


What are you talking about? This is a prime example of why our unprotected border doesn't work.
---
Just your bad luck... to run into me.
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181
02/05/18 2:28:15 PM
#38:


@_OujiDoza_ posted...
What the idiot Fox n Friend lovers fail to realize is the the guy has already been deported twice, so the whole "close the border" narrative doesn't apply here because this dude was already shipped back and still made it back in.


How would he make it back in with a giant wall in the way? If anything, a man deported for crimes multiple time because he keeps coming back is huge for the argument of tightening up the border.
---
chill02 to me: you are beautiful
... Copied to Clipboard!
Giant_Aspirin
02/05/18 2:31:01 PM
#39:


instead of mourning the loss of a man and expressing compassion for his friends and family someone turned this into an immigration debate.

stay classy.
---
Playing: Dark Souls III (PC)
(~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~)
... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_
02/05/18 2:37:14 PM
#40:


KazumaKiryu posted...
What are you talking about? This is a prime example of why our unprotected border doesn't work.

Your guys control Government right now and the only thing they've come up with to tighten up the border is to build a bigger wall? Do you not understand the issue here?

darkphoenix181 posted...
How would he make it back in with a giant wall in the way? If anything, a man deported for crimes multiple time because he keeps coming back is huge for the argument of tightening up the border.

You building a bigger wall? they'll build a taller ladder - the wall doesn't make the border more secure if there is no plan/personnel in place.

The bigger problem here is DWI - has been for decades.
---
R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime
|Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg.
... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs
02/05/18 2:39:34 PM
#41:


An illegal person kills someone while drunk and this topic is nothing but trump, republican, and conservative bashing...this place is hilarious.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 3:17:50 PM
#42:


Antifar posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Illegal immigration is the target, though.

What does ending family migration or the visa lottery or reducing the amount of refugees we take in do to target illegal immigration?

A significant portion of illegal immigrants originally came here via those programs - programs which do absolutely nothing to improve America.
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181
02/05/18 3:20:09 PM
#43:


_OujiDoza_ posted...

You building a bigger wall? they'll build a taller ladder - the wall doesn't make the border more secure if there is no plan/personnel in place.

The bigger problem here is DWI - has been for decades.


So the man is unstoppable?
There is no way to ensure from his first deportation that he would not return?

How would you have stopped this man from DWI?
---
chill02 to me: you are beautiful
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 3:25:41 PM
#44:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
An illegal person kills someone while drunk and this topic is nothing but trump, republican, and conservative bashing...this place is hilarious.

What else do you expect from the liberal circlejerk that is CE?
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_
02/05/18 3:32:03 PM
#45:


darkphoenix181 posted...
So the man is unstoppable?

He could have been stopped, but the process in which he committed this crime is not some new thing - driving while drunk, no license, etc. is a huge problem illegal or citizen. That side of the issue needs to be addressed FIRST. How does a guy here illegally even manage to get a vehicle? Registration? How is that possible. Now imagine that with your average citizen - our system is a failure beyond illegal immigrants.

darkphoenix181 posted...
There is no way to ensure from his first deportation that he would not return?

I'd imagine there is a way - but neither Dems nor Repubs seem to have come up with anything yet. it's not a democrat or republican issue singularly and the party's refusal to work together is a huge reason why.

darkphoenix181 posted...
How would you have stopped this man from DWI?

There in lies the issue - notice you just said "this man" not this illegal, this immigrant, etc....it's more than an illegal problem not the first nor the last, either.

Him repeatedly getting into the country could be solved by simply locking him away in our prisons for the rest of his life considering the crime.
---
R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime
|Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg.
... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude
02/05/18 3:32:57 PM
#46:


darkjedilink posted...
Antifar posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Illegal immigration is the target, though.

What does ending family migration or the visa lottery or reducing the amount of refugees we take in do to target illegal immigration?

A significant portion of illegal immigrants originally came here via those programs - programs which do absolutely nothing to improve America.

In your opinion.

Also most illegal immigration nowadays is due to people coming here legally and doing things like overstaying their visa. A wall wont stop that.
---
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS
02/05/18 3:38:01 PM
#47:


Programs that do nothing to improve America

Yea its not like many of those people have become doctors or business people or contribute to sectors like agriculture and maintenence which...yes does improve America. But American citizens can have those jobs!...yes they can. No one is stopping them. But they work for less! Which is illegal so we should do more to punish the companies who do that. Wouldnt that do more to solve the problem?
---
Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1
... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_
02/05/18 3:41:45 PM
#48:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Which is illegal so we should do more to punish the companies who do that. Wouldnt that do more to solve the problem?

The great part about people mad about immigrants working for less is that the same folks (demographic) mad is the same group that slurps the CEO's/bosses that choose to hire these folks over "able-bodied" Americans, but it's the immigrants that get raked over the coals for simply being willing to work to earn a living for their families.
---
R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime
|Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg.
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink
02/05/18 4:18:49 PM
#49:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Antifar posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Illegal immigration is the target, though.

What does ending family migration or the visa lottery or reducing the amount of refugees we take in do to target illegal immigration?

A significant portion of illegal immigrants originally came here via those programs - programs which do absolutely nothing to improve America.

In your opinion.

Also most illegal immigration nowadays is due to people coming here legally and doing things like overstaying their visa. A wall wont stop that.

That was my point...
---
'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen
... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181
02/05/18 4:21:11 PM
#50:


_OujiDoza_ posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

How would you have stopped this man from DWI?

There in lies the issue - notice you just said "this man" not this illegal, this immigrant, etc....it's more than an illegal problem not the first nor the last, either.

Him repeatedly getting into the country could be solved by simply locking him away in our prisons for the rest of his life considering the crime.


I am asking you how he would be stopped from DWI.
You claim that this is the heart of the matter. How then can you stop someone from DWI?
---
chill02 to me: you are beautiful
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3