Current Events > Do you consider the Call of Duty series a series for kids?

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Discuss.
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No game rated M for Mature can ever be called a game for kids. Kids might play it and enjoy it (even though they're legally not supposed to) but Call of Duty is definitely not a game for kids.
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It's not for kids, but it doesn't seem to stop many parents from buying it for their kids.
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No, most people who play it are adults

Overwatch is a kids version
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Calwings posted...

No game rated M for Mature can ever be called a game for kids. Kids might play it and enjoy it (even though they're legally not supposed to) but Call of Duty is definitely not a game for kids.

The legality is in who retailers sell it to.

M rated games are not illegal for minors to play or own.
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They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.
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Calwings posted...

No game rated M for Mature can ever be called a game for kids. Kids might play it and enjoy it (even though they're legally not supposed to) but Call of Duty is definitely not a game for kids.

For Mature? No. M stands for Money. Which targets teens and young kids specifically.
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Hexenherz posted...

They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.

Explain.
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No but it's funny seeing manchildren who play Pokemon pretend it is.
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Calwings posted...

No game rated M for Mature can ever be called a game for kids. Kids might play it and enjoy it (even though they're legally not supposed to) but Call of Duty is definitely not a game for kids.

i disagree, i think in a lot of cases the M rating is marketing for kids
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They're made for people age 13 - 30s
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StickFigures720 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.

Explain.

There doesn't need to be "Mature" content in the games... They could tone down the blood and swearing and pointless "shock" scenes that have been in the series since at least 4 and get a Teen rating. The "mature" content adds nothing of value to the game which is basically an arcade hallway shooter to begin with.
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No it's just popular with kids. Just like GTA.
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Yeah. Still fun though.
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I liked them back then and I like them now.

Hexenherz posted...

StickFigures720 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.

Explain.

There doesn't need to be "Mature" content in the games... They could tone down the blood and swearing and pointless "shock" scenes that have been in the series since at least 4 and get a Teen rating. The "mature" content adds nothing of value to the game which is basically an arcade hallway shooter to begin with.

You forget to realize that this doesn't really make a lot of difference to most people. Lot of people who played later CoD games also played them back when they were rated T. Battlefield also went rated M and nobody accused that series of appealing to kids any more than CoD.
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Absolutely attracts more kids overall tbh.

Like how Mario Kart attracts mostly adults.
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Hexenherz posted...

StickFigures720 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.

Explain.

There doesn't need to be "Mature" content in the games... They could tone down the blood and swearing and pointless "shock" scenes that have been in the series since at least 4 and get a Teen rating. The "mature" content adds nothing of value to the game which is basically an arcade hallway shooter to begin with.

You should have logical reasons better than muh feelings and that it's an arcade game.
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Well, besides the fact that a T rated game would probably sell better than an M rated game just by virtue of the fact that they aren't age restricted. That seems like a pretty sound reason to me?
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Hexenherz posted...

Well, besides the fact that a T rated game would probably sell better than an M rated game just by virtue of the fact that they aren't age restricted. That seems like a pretty sound reason to me?

While that may be true, game developers do not have to conform to this. I mean, franchises like Grand Theft Auto and the M-rated Call of Duty games are highly successful. Hell, Deadpool was considered to one of the most successful R-rated movies of all-time. The developers simply concluded that since they got a successful M-rated Call of Duty 4 on their hands, why bother toning down the content?

Call of Duty was never truly meant to be a fully realistic war simulation, but there's nothing wrong with incorporating the more realistic aspects of war, such as the so-called gratuitous gory images and bad language. So really, your comment advocated censorship.
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Advocating censorship would be saying that the government should ban the sale of Call of Duty games in the first place...

And the gore and language adds little, if anything, to the CoD experience itself - suggesting otherwise would just make you a hypocrite regarding "bringing feels" into the equation.

I don't think there's a direct correlation between the facts that CoD 4 sold well and that it was M-rated.
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Hexenherz posted...

Advocating censorship would be saying that the government should ban the sale of Call of Duty games in the first place...

And the gore and language adds little, if anything, to the CoD experience itself - suggesting otherwise would just make you a hypocrite regarding "bringing feels" into the equation.

I don't think there's a direct correlation between the facts that CoD 4 sold well and that it was M-rated.

You literally suggested that Call of Duty should tone down its content to meet the Teen rating because you felt that the Mature-rated content in those games are gratuitous. That's basically the general idea of censorship.

Nowhere did I say that the mature content in Call of Duty contributed to the sales, nor did I ever say it adds much to the experience. All I said was that there's nothing wrong with implementing the more realistic aspects such as blood and bad language in an otherwise arcade-like game. That's the developer's decision, who are you think you are to stop them? Arcade-simulation hybrid games exist, you know. Not everything has to be black and white.
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Calwings posted...

No game rated M for Mature can ever be called a game for kids

lol

Except the blood isn't really "realistic" in the game. I'm not trying to stop anyone from doing anything, merely suggesting that they might even have increased sales if the rating were lower and therefore more available for purchase by a wider audience...
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Young teens jock what adults make popular in the game world
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Children's Online Daycare
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Hexenherz posted...

Except the blood isn't really "realistic" in the game. I'm not trying to stop anyone from doing anything, merely suggesting that they might even have increased sales if the rating were lower and therefore more available for purchase by a wider audience...

As opposed to having little, if not less realistic depictions of blood? You know, if they tried to depict blood and gore realistically, it would still meet the M rating, because war isn't clean. Your argument is getting nowhere. Considering how successful Call of Duty already is, your overall argument is pretty much moot at this point.
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You know, if they tried to depict blood and gore realistically, it would still meet the M rating

I literally never said anything to the contrary man.
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Hexenherz posted...

You know, if they tried to depict blood and gore realistically, it would still meet the M rating

I literally never said anything to the contrary man.

You jumped to the conclusion that the depiction of blood in COD wasn't realistic, so of course I had to say that. Seriously, the more you reply, the less sense you're making.
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StickFigures720 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

You know, if they tried to depict blood and gore realistically, it would still meet the M rating

I literally never said anything to the contrary man.

You jumped to the conclusion that the depiction of blood in COD wasn't realistic, so of course I had to say that. Seriously, the more you reply, the less sense you're making.

No, it's just that your arguments include completely irrelevant points based on your own incorrect assumptions about what my points are.

I didn't "jump to the conclusion that the depiction of blood in COD isn't realistic", because it's a quantifiable, objective fact that the depiction of blood in COD isn't realistic.
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Hexenherz posted...

StickFigures720 posted...

Hexenherz posted...

You know, if they tried to depict blood and gore realistically, it would still meet the M rating

I literally never said anything to the contrary man.

You jumped to the conclusion that the depiction of blood in COD wasn't realistic, so of course I had to say that. Seriously, the more you reply, the less sense you're making.

No, it's just that your arguments include completely irrelevant points based on your own incorrect assumptions about what my points are.

I didn't "jump to the conclusion that the depiction of blood in COD isn't realistic", because it's a quantifiable, objective fact that the depiction of blood in COD isn't realistic.

What is your argument against unrealistic blood, exactly? Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you claimed that you were merely suggesting that the developers should tone down the violence in Call of Duty, why did you use the word, 'certainly?' It sounds more like a demand instead of a mere suggestion. Pretty much everything in your first comment contradicts your later comments one way or another.
Hexenherz posted...

They certainly should just make them as T-rated games, there's absolutely no reason for them to be rated Mature.

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Because... Having unrealistic blood and gore effects for the sake of shock value is part of what gets them an M rating, and by toning it down, they could get a T rating. Having a T rating, in my opinion, has the potential to increase sales - and yes I realize sales are already at a very high level so maybe it would be minimal.
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Hexenherz posted...

Because... Having unrealistic blood and gore effects for the sake of shock value is part of what gets them an M rating, and by toning it down, they could get a T rating. Having a T rating, in my opinion, has the potential to increase sales - and yes I realize sales are already at a very high level so maybe it would be minimal.

Pretty the M rating make edgy teenagers feel like they are mature for playing it.
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Hexenherz posted...

Because... Having unrealistic blood and gore effects for the sake of shock value is part of what gets them an M rating, and by toning it down, they could get a T rating. Having a T rating, in my opinion, has the potential to increase sales - and yes I realize sales are already at a very high level so maybe it would be minimal.

I'm not sure if you're suffering from Alzheimer's or if you're just a troll, but Call of Duty would still be M-rated material, whether the blood is depicted realistically or exaggerated and you are still trying to remain ignorant of this. Your claim that it is because of shock value is you using your emotional bias to jump to conclusions. Not only that, but you are still suggesting that they tone down the content for the T rating despite acknowledging that the difference in sales is negligible kind of renders your whole argument weak.

What difference are you trying to make here?
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