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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 5:20:44 PM
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In America?



Specifically talking about in The United States here since this is an American website and this topic can get quite controversial in some nations like Nigeria, Chad or Japan.

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Do you think there is a difference as a generalization? Or do you think that's a thing of the past as people have long since been considered equals?

No arguing or trolling please. There's been too much of that lately, just want to see where CE stands considering recent topics and attitudes.
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weapon_d00d816
01/26/18 5:30:39 PM
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By the numbers, yes.

In instances of equal socioeconomic status, no.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 5:37:42 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
By the numbers, yes.

In instances of equal socioeconomic status, no.

What do you mean by that?
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RickyTheBAWSE
01/26/18 5:39:03 PM
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silly topic that'll undoubtedly get ignorant people to speak beyond their levels of understanding and experience.
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weapon_d00d816
01/26/18 5:39:38 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
By the numbers, yes.

In instances of equal socioeconomic status, no.

What do you mean by that?

I mean exactly what I said.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 5:41:56 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
By the numbers, yes.

In instances of equal socioeconomic status, no.

What do you mean by that?

I mean exactly what I said.

You didn't really say much tho. Some elaboration would be appreciated.
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luigi13579
01/26/18 5:42:19 PM
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I'd have to say so. It wasn't that long ago when black people were treated as second-class citizens (and a lot worse obviously went on for a long time before that), and that has to have had a knock-on effect. When your family have had a longer time to build up wealth, they're more able to give you a good start in life and help you out later in life whenever you fall on hard times.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2015/03/26/the-racial-wealth-gap-why-a-typical-white-household-has-16-times-the-wealth-of-a-black-one/

Regardless of the reasons for it, that certainly makes life harder.

That's not even touching on any potential discrimination happening now, which I don't know a huge amount about to be honest, so I won't comment on it.
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zH0mPfR
01/26/18 5:43:09 PM
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darkphoenix181
01/26/18 5:44:02 PM
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CE has this topic like every month and white people always win the poll as having it harder.
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KStateKing17
01/26/18 5:46:04 PM
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I believe we have just as much opportunity as anyone now. Unfortunately many do still have a lot of economic issues, and I think changing the education system would help that a lot.
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zH0mPfR
01/26/18 5:48:07 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
CE has this topic like every month and white people always win the poll as having it harder.


This poll just asks if blacks have it harder than whites, not the other way around.
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boxington
01/26/18 5:49:16 PM
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is that woman in the OP abusing her position to molest elderly women??
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weapon_d00d816
01/26/18 5:50:08 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...
By the numbers, yes.

In instances of equal socioeconomic status, no.

What do you mean by that?

I mean exactly what I said.

You didn't really say much tho. Some elaboration would be appreciated.

I mean I don't understand how I can be any more straightforward.

The percentage of black people who have it hard is higher than the percentage of white people who have it hard, and this is because there is a higher percentage of poverty amongst black people. In instances where black and white people are both poor, both middle class, or both rich, they have it roughly the same.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 5:54:22 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
CE has this topic like every month and white people always win the poll as having it harder.

But black people are winning.

Those other polls probably didn't have 1 vote per IP on like a lot of shitty poll topics on this board
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 6:03:02 PM
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Depends where in America. I also dont believe its the white mans fault either
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DarkTransient
01/26/18 6:03:49 PM
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Is it harder for black people on average? Yes.
Is this because they're black? No.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 6:09:39 PM
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SomeGuyPosting posted...
Depends where in America


The United States, I already said that.
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Omnislasher
01/26/18 6:11:22 PM
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it is and not a matter of opinion.
you can accept or deny reality.
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andel
01/26/18 6:11:45 PM
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i think institutional racism is mostly over with but black people are generally haven't had the chance to build capital, both financial and political, white people and other groups have so they generally have it tougher on average through no fault of their own
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SomeGuyPosting
01/26/18 6:12:34 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
SomeGuyPosting posted...
Depends where in America


The United States, I already said that.

Okay you're being ignorant on purpose
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Balrog0
01/26/18 6:13:16 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.
you can accept or deny reality.

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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 6:16:16 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.

I think the divide kinda shows that it is
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Omnislasher
01/26/18 6:34:45 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.

I think the divide kinda shows that it is


no, it doesn't.

only roughly half of the american population thinks humans are mostly responsible for global warming.

that's not a matter of opinion either.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 6:38:27 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.

I think the divide kinda shows that it is


no, it doesn't.

only roughly half of the american population thinks humans are mostly responsible for global warming.

that's not a matter of opinion either.

It just sounds like you're closed minded about your views.

Someone isn't wrong because they disagree with you.
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Omnislasher
01/26/18 6:58:25 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
It just sounds like you're closed minded about your views.


how so?

do you disagree that human activity being the primary driver of current climate change isn't a matter of opinion?
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UnholyMudcrab
01/26/18 6:59:40 PM
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I believe that life is harder for Khajiit and Argonians, as it should be. Damn boots and rugs, thinking they're people.
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UnfairRepresent
01/26/18 7:02:52 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
I believe that life is harder for Khajiit and Argonians, as it should be. Damn boots and rugs, thinking they're people.

Not sure I agree. Argonians can breathe underwater and can't get diseased.

If anything they are the master-race.

Also why do female argonians have boobs? I mean they lay eggs....
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UnfairRepresent
01/27/18 7:53:22 AM
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And he was never never seen again
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spincr
01/27/18 8:55:45 AM
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Nope its not, its what they want to believe though. Exceptions there.
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FrisbeeDude
01/27/18 9:05:08 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.
you can accept or deny reality.

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Steve Nick
01/27/18 9:05:37 AM
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Life isn't harder for black people.

Life is harder for inner city poor people that are growing up in violent places with shit schools and little wealth, which is disproportionately populated by black people.

I don't come from the city, and the black people from my area grew up just like everybody else did.
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clearaflagrantj
01/27/18 9:10:40 AM
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The people voting that black lives aren't harder would never in a million years swap races.
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FrisbeeDude
01/27/18 9:11:12 AM
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Steve Nick posted...
Life isn't harder for black people.

Life is harder for inner city poor people that are growing up in violent places with shit schools and little wealth, which is disproportionately populated by black people.

I don't come from the city, and the black people from my area grew up just like everybody else did.


"The only real color that matters is green!"

Lmao fuck outta here.
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Nomadic View
01/27/18 9:19:03 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Life isn't harder for black people.

Life is harder for inner city poor people that are growing up in violent places with shit schools and little wealth, which is disproportionately populated by black people.

I don't come from the city, and the black people from my area grew up just like everybody else did.


"The only real color that matters is green!"

Lmao fuck outta here.


Yeah, thats true. A rich black kid has it a lot easier than a poor white kid.

If you want to talk in generalities, yeah, black people have it harder simply because as a whole black families are poorer than white families. But taken on an individual basis then it really just boils down to socioeconomic status.
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FrisbeeDude
01/27/18 9:24:04 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
Steve Nick posted...
Life isn't harder for black people.

Life is harder for inner city poor people that are growing up in violent places with shit schools and little wealth, which is disproportionately populated by black people.

I don't come from the city, and the black people from my area grew up just like everybody else did.


"The only real color that matters is green!"

Lmao fuck outta here.


Yeah, thats true. A rich black kid has it a lot easier than a poor white kid.

If you want to talk in generalities, yeah, black people have it harder simply because as a whole black families are poorer than white families. But taken on an individual basis then it really just boils down to socioeconomic status.


What's your ethnicity?
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Nomadic View
01/27/18 9:26:49 AM
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White.
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ThyCorndog
01/27/18 9:28:08 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
The people voting that black lives aren't harder would never in a million years swap races.

indeed
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FrisbeeDude
01/27/18 9:30:48 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
The people voting that black lives aren't harder would never in a million years swap races.

indeed


Also this.

"Y'all have it good! Affirmative action, obamaphones, subsidized housing, welfare!"

"Would you like to switch"?

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FrisbeeDude
01/27/18 9:32:31 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
White.


Ok. Frankly, you're not equipped to understand, so I can understand why you feel that way.
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medzz
01/27/18 9:43:19 AM
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With the high black on black crime I would say yes they have it a little difficult
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zH0mPfR
01/27/18 10:16:23 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
The people voting that black lives aren't harder would never in a million years swap races.


Get out.
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JBaLLEN66
01/27/18 10:43:51 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
White.


Ok. Frankly, you're not equipped to understand, so I can understand why you feel that way.


This so much, I almost responded to his ignorant post too
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UnfairRepresent
01/27/18 10:54:16 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
The people voting that black lives aren't harder would never in a million years swap races.

indeed


Also this.

"Y'all have it good! Affirmative action, obamaphones, subsidized housing, welfare!"

"Would you like to switch"?

....

So if you're secure with your life that means you're racist?

I don't think many people period want to switch races.
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Nomadic View
01/27/18 11:05:55 AM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Nomadic View posted...
White.


[racism].


So, youre claiming racial oppression while simultaneously using race as a factor to dismiss someone?
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Solar_Crimson
01/27/18 11:10:58 AM
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Omnislasher posted...
it is and not a matter of opinion.
you can accept or deny reality.

andel posted...
i think institutional racism is mostly over with but black people are generally haven't had the chance to build capital, both financial and political, white people and other groups have so they generally have it tougher on average through no fault of their own

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UnholyMudcrab
01/27/18 11:15:05 AM
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leverageblargh posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
And he was never never seen again


UnholyMudcrab is this true

It's true. I was indeed never seen again
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Solid Snake07
01/27/18 11:18:16 AM
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They're typically poorer, so yeah, obviously
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