Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 160: Government Letdown

(+) Yeah! (+)

Tourists look at America as a shithole country now and aren't coming over.

They've drawn a new line, like their names' Pennsylvania.
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This was good
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1/23/2018
WASHINGTON POST - Trump asked the acting FBI director how he voted during Oval Office meeting

Shortly after President Trump fired his FBI director in May, he summoned to the Oval Office the bureau's acting director for a get-to-know-you meeting.

The two men exchanged pleasantries, but before long, Trump, according to several current and former U.S. officials, asked Andrew McCabe a pointed question: Whom did he vote for in the 2016 election?

McCabe said he didn't vote, according to the officials, who, like others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity to talk candidly about a sensitive matter.

Trump, the officials said, also vented his anger at McCabe over the several hundred thousand dollars in donations that his wife, a Democrat, received for her failed 2015 Virginia state Senate bid from a political action committee controlled by a close friend of Hillary Clinton.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-the-acting-fbi-director-whom-he-voted-for-during-oval-office-meeting/

2018/01/23/2cb50818-0073-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html

The question of Donald's need for loyalty comes up again.
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1/24/2018
WASHINGTON POST - Tammy Duckworth will be the Senate's first new mom, but she already has a record of blazing trails

Duckworth was the first female double amputee in the war, HuffPost reported.

But that grim distinction did nothing to slow Duckworth down as she shifted from a career in the military to stateside public service. Rather, Duckworth has achieved one milestone after the next.

This didnt change who I am, she explained to Stars and Stripes a year after her injuries. Im not about to let some guy who got lucky with an RPG decide how to live my life.

She would go on to be the first female amputee elected to the U.S. Congress; the first Asian American to represent Illinois in Washington; the first member of Congress born in Thailand. And this week, Duckworth announced she and her husband, Bryan Bowlsbey, were expecting their second child in April. That will make Duckworth the first U.S. senator to give birth while in office.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/

morning-mix/wp/2018/01/24/tammy-duckworth-will-be-the-senates-first-new-mom-

but-she-already-has-a-record-of-blazing-trails/

Interesting list of firsts. I didn't know she was born in Thailand though...thought I've heard some people wanting her to run for President, so that'll exclude that.
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HaRRicH posted...

I didn't know she was born in Thailand though...thought I've heard some people wanting her to run for President, so that'll exclude that.

that's not how this works

if ted cruz can run, so can she
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https://twitter.com/NOW1SOLAR/status/955579485998362625

Jobs!
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I'm willing to concede that Duckworth can't run if we can make sure Ted Cruz is never allowed to run again
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FFDragon posted...

HaRRicH posted...

I didn't know she was born in Thailand though...thought I've heard some people wanting her to run for President, so that'll exclude that.

that's not how this works

if ted cruz can run, so can she

Her mother was not an American citizen at the time of her birth. So yeah, she probably can't.
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redrocket_pub posted...

Her mother was not an American citizen at the time of her birth. So yeah, she probably can't.

(neither was Cruz's father, and Cruz himself was born in Canada)

The Mana Sword posted...

I'm willing to concede that Duckworth can't run if we can make sure Ted Cruz is never allowed to run again

But I will gladly take this.
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redrocket_pub posted...

FFDragon posted...

HaRRicH posted...

I didn't know she was born in Thailand though...thought I've heard some people wanting her to run for President, so that'll exclude that.

that's not how this works

if ted cruz can run, so can she

Her mother was not an American citizen at the time of her birth. So yeah, she probably can't.

That's also not how this works. You only need one to be considered natural born.
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FFDragon posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

Her mother was not an American citizen at the time of her birth. So yeah, she probably can't.

(neither was Cruz's father, and Cruz himself was born in Canada.

Wrong. His mother was an American citizen. She was born in the US.
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redrocket_pub posted...

FFDragon posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

Her mother was not an American citizen at the time of her birth. So yeah, she probably can't.

(neither was Cruz's father, and Cruz himself was born in Canada.

Wrong. His mother was an American citizen. She was born in the US.

... yes. And Cruz's father was not.

Again, you only need one.
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I'm now confused, so I'll lay out the direct parallels.

Cruz - US Mother, Not US Father, born not in US
Duckworth - US Father, Not US Mother, born not in US
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FFDragon posted...

I'm now confused, so I'll lay out the direct parallels.

Cruz - US Mother, Not US Father, born not in US
Duckworth - US Father, Not US Mother, born not in US

Correct.
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Then yeah, I don't see how I'm wrong!
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FFDragon posted...

Then yeah, I don't see how I'm wrong!

You're not.

Incidentally, this is also a reason why the birther nonsense was crap. Even if it turned out Obama HAD been born in Kenya, he'd still be eligible for the presidency, courtesy of his american mother.
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Welp, sounds like I misunderstood her situation and how that worked for candidacy. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Tag
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Overlooked SZ's post...and that makes that movement a whole new layer of dumb I hadn't realized before.

Now, I need some clarification on the exceptions with Romney and I think McCain. I understood their parents were Americans, but also I thought they were born in military bases or something and that was what I previously understood their exceptions to be when they were born overseas.
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HaRRicH posted...

Overlooked SZ's post...and that makes that movement a whole new layer of dumb I hadn't realized before.

Now, I need some clarification on the exceptions with Romney and I think McCain. I understood their parents were Americans, but also I thought they were born in military bases or something and that was what I previously understood their exceptions to be when they were born overseas.

Military bases aren't actually american soil for citizenship purposes. I know it's a pretty common idea, but it turns out to be a wrong one.
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Alabama just voted to get rid of special elections. I WONDER WHY
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So what do they do instead now? Appointed?
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KamikazePotato posted...

Alabama just voted to get rid of special elections. I WONDER WHY

I wonder if they're even trying to justify it as anything other than "holy shit voters are shifting leftward we need to take power away from them".
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Not_an_Owl posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

Alabama just voted to get rid of special elections. I WONDER WHY

I wonder if they're even trying to justify it as anything other than "holy shit voters are shifting leftward we need to take power away from them".

Saying it costs taxpayers too much
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KamikazePotato posted...

Alabama just voted to get rid of special elections. I WONDER WHY

Link please?

Between this and their shadiness about trying to get rid of the voting records, PLUS knowing how gerrymandered it is...like holy shit, it has REALLY upset them that somebody who fought the KKK was better than their mall-banned cowboy.

I wanna hear Doug Jones speak about this issue of removing special elections.
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Supposedly, the bill was drafted before the special election ever took place
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you've probably found it in the two hours since your post, but: http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/370417-alabama-state-house-votes-to-end-special-elections

Note that the difference is essentially from "The election will be held within a year" to "the election will be held the next time there would be statewide federal elections," which, I would argue, is not that big of a deal.
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https://tinyurl.com/y8oeb94h

This is pretty brilliant. I wonder how much religious freedom advocates will agree with her stance.
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TheRock1525 posted...

https://tinyurl.com/y8oeb94h

This is pretty brilliant. I wonder how much religious freedom advocates will agree with her stance.

The entire purpose of the Satanic Temple is to troll overreaching Christians with their own methods. They're glorious.
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TheRock1525 posted...

https://tinyurl.com/y8oeb94h

This is pretty brilliant. I wonder how much religious freedom advocates will agree with her stance.

You know damn well "religious freedom advocates" only advocate for the freedom of Christians to persecute all non-Christians.
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Not_an_Owl posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

https://tinyurl.com/y8oeb94h

This is pretty brilliant. I wonder how much religious freedom advocates will agree with her stance.

You know damn well "religious freedom advocates" only advocate for the freedom of Christians to persecute all non-Christians.

From my experience, this is true
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Now, I need some clarification on the exceptions with Romney and I think McCain. I understood their parents were Americans, but also I thought they were born in military bases or something and that was what I previously understood their exceptions to be when they were born overseas.

I don't know about the general case, but I believe the Senate passed a formal resolution specifying that McCain was eligible for the presidency.
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This bullshit over who is and isn't eligible to run for president is so tiring

Cruz is eligible, Duckworth is eligible

get the fuck over it

I was fairly confident the original comment about eligibility was a joke. Was I wrong?
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The thing where people were trying to stop Cruz from running wasn't a joke a while ago though and I'm tired of it

i am in favor of anyone trying to prevent cruz from running tbqh

just this specific hill is the wrong one to die on for it
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I know I'm probably being too much of a stick in the mud about it but the Cruz thing really bothers me because it's the same kind of shit that people tried to discredit Obama with and it's the same kind of shit that people try to discredit anyone who's kind of foreign with

Cruz may be a lizardman but he's an american lizardman and I will fight people over this

are lizardmen allowed to run

the people need to know
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The Mana Sword posted...

are lizardmen allowed to run

the people need to know

there's nothing in the rules that says a lizardman can't run

Paratroopa1 posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

are lizardmen allowed to run

the people need to know

there's nothing in the rules that says a lizardman can't run

Ah, the old Air Bud rule strikes again.
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https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2018/01/16/donald-trump-height-weight-tim-tebow-mike-trout

Wherein Trump gets owned by... Sports Illustrated?
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As much as I don't want to be, to be fair to Trump, comparing him to athletes is a little unfair. Muscle mass is far denser than fat, it could theoretically be possible for Trump to be 239 lbs and not look like Tim Tebow and other athletes. That said, I think he is probably closer to 250 than he is 240. I am 6'3" and 235 lbs, and not as muscular as I used to be and I am reasonably thinner than Trump.
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Why does Sports Illustrated have a picture of Jay Cutler's bare ass?
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Inviso posted...

Why does Sports Illustrated have a picture of Jay Cutler's bare ass?

We can thank Mrs Cutler for that.

Where's the picture where he looks like a lesbian?
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Inviso posted...

Why does Sports Illustrated have a picture of Jay Cutler's bare ass?

Better question: Why don't they have more?
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https://nypost.com/2017/01/19/jay-cutlers-wife-sorry-for-making-him-look-like-300-pound-lesbian/
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Inviso posted...

Why does Sports Illustrated have a picture of Jay Cutler's bare ass?

it's how they illustrate the sports
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Thanks dowolf and Sphynx for clarifying some of my over-reaction. Alabama's still pissy, but maybe not because of this.

Reg posted...

I was fairly confident the original comment about eligibility was a joke. Was I wrong?

If you mean my post about Duckworth, I was mistaken and wrong.
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1/25/2018
HUFFINGTON POST - Trumps 24-Year-Old Deputy Drug Czar To Resign After Questions Over Work History

Weyeneth, a 24-year-old former Trump campaign worker, was appointed last year to be the deputy chief of staff at the Office of National Drug Control Policy, or ONDCP, the agency tasked with coordinating federal drug-control efforts. However, as the Post originally reported, Weyeneth had nearly no previous experience after he graduated college in May 2016, aside from working for Donald Trumps presidential campaign and transition.

Questions quickly arose about his qualifications after multiple discrepancies popped up on several of his rsums and reports surfaced that another job he held at a New York law firm in 2015 ended after Weyeneth failed to show up for work.

He appeared to rise quickly at the ONDCP due to a high level of staff turnover and numerous vacancies at the agency. During the recent government shutdown, the Post noted, Weyeneth was one of three employees at the agency that continued to work after he was listed as essential.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a696507e4b0022830094616?section=us_politics

This compliments The Hill's article last month about Donald's record-breaking 34% turnover rate (next highest President was Reagan in 1981 at 17%):

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/366651-trump-administration-sees-record-first-year-staff-turnover-report

I also thought Donald would care more about the ONDCP after declaring opiods as a national emergency...but I guess that's like expecting him to care about Christians after declaring war on Christmas.
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Apparently Kerry wants to run again in 2020

pls stop
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