Current Events > How would you describe your beliefs about extraterrestrial/alien life?

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I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.
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I think anyone who doubts it is out of their minds

I think it's likely there is life out there somewhere given the sheer size of the universe. I have doubts that they have come to Earth or that we will encounter them in our lifetimes.
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I believe they exist and have been visiting this planet for thousands of years.

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

prince_leo posted...

I think it's likely there is life out there somewhere given the sheer size of the universe. I have doubts that they have come to Earth or that we will encounter them in our lifetimes.

This.
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Dash_Harber posted...

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

Not looking too hard. Us government confirmed their ufo problems and released a video of a ufo not too long ago

PikachuMaxwell posted...

I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.

Pretty much this.

Odds that we are the only intelligence in the universe? Fuck that, so arrogant. We are not.

Odds that we will discover or be discovered by other intelligent life in the universe anytime soon? lol wtf.

Aliens exist. Intelligent aliens exist. Distance and light speed are MASSIVE barriers between us, so chances are we will never meet.
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not_shawn_z posted...

I think anyone who doubts it is out of their minds

This^

not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

Not looking too hard. Us government confirmed their ufo problems and released a video of a ufo not too long ago

Except UFO /= ET.

I'm guessing there are elements all over the universe we can't begin to understand. Our concept of everything is so miniscule.

Dash_Harber posted...

not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

Not looking too hard. Us government confirmed their ufo problems and released a video of a ufo not too long ago

Except UFO /= ET.

Yea, fair enough, but who are you assuming it is, then? Do you think the Haitans developed aircraft that defies logic and gravity? The Nazi's? The commies?

I don't care. I'd rather we finished exploring Earth before looking out to space.
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not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

Not looking too hard. Us government confirmed their ufo problems and released a video of a ufo not too long ago

Except UFO /= ET.

Yea, fair enough, but who are you assuming it is, then? Do you think the Haitans developed aircraft that defies logic and gravity? The Nazi's? The commies?

Considering these sorts of sightings basically started happening and being recorded alongside aviation, and that there are a ton of countries we have zero intel on, it's not really impossible to imagine that it could be another country's aircraft.

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying it's wrong to just assume it's extraterrestrials.

Andromeda Galaxy

https://www.spacetelescope.org/images/heic1502a/zoomable/
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Dash_Harber posted...

not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

not_shawn_z posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I have seen zero evidence and I don't think there is any credible evidence so far. It's also probably that life evolved somewhere else, I just don't think we've experienced anything like that yet.

Not looking too hard. Us government confirmed their ufo problems and released a video of a ufo not too long ago

Except UFO /= ET.

Yea, fair enough, but who are you assuming it is, then? Do you think the Haitans developed aircraft that defies logic and gravity? The Nazi's? The commies?

Considering these sorts of sightings basically started happening and being recorded alongside aviation, and that there are a ton of countries we have zero intel on, it's not really impossible to imagine that it could be another country's aircraft.

I'm not saying it is, I'm just saying it's wrong to just assume it's extraterrestrials.

I'd agree it would be wrong to assume that

I also think it's wrong to dismiss it completely, as you did, with no evidence/zero credibility like you said

I'm simply saying you shouldn't dismiss it, one way or the other

On a side note it really is hard to believe any country could do this. A handful, tops

It certainly wouldn't surprise me if there was life on other planets, but I don't know whether there is or not.

Earth is evidence that there is at least a 1/SizeofSpace chance of life.
Plants and animals are of course more likely than intelligent; Earth doesn't even have that.

As for ETs visiting Earth? Probably not because they're too far away, but then again; over a time span of 4 billion years anything can happen once or twice. Again; probably not a lot though, just once or twice; probably not within the 200k years we've been around.
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not_shawn_z posted...

I also think it's wrong to dismiss it completely, as you did, with no evidence/zero credibility like you said

I didn't dismiss UFOs, I dismissed claims that UFOs are extraterrestrial based on zero evidence. I also made it clear that statistically speaking, it is pretty likely that life evolved somewhere else, so it's a bit weird you claim I'm outright dismissing the possibility.

Life is extremely common.
Complex life is common.
Sapient life is rare.
Technologically capable life is extremely rare.

But the few civs that do make it to interstellar travel will persist for a very long time.
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I'm hoping we aren't the most advanced species in the universe because, after this long, we're a piss-poor best effort.
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FigureOfSpeech posted...

PikachuMaxwell posted...

I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.

Pretty much this.

Odds that we are the only intelligence in the universe? Fuck that, so arrogant. We are not.

Odds that we will discover or be discovered by other intelligent life in the universe anytime soon? lol wtf.

Aliens exist. Intelligent aliens exist. Distance and light speed are MASSIVE barriers between us, so chances are we will never meet.

if aliens exists then god must exists too
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They're here, and they have been for a very long time.

MoistenedYouth posted...

FigureOfSpeech posted...

PikachuMaxwell posted...

I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.

Pretty much this.

Odds that we are the only intelligence in the universe? Fuck that, so arrogant. We are not.

Odds that we will discover or be discovered by other intelligent life in the universe anytime soon? lol wtf.

Aliens exist. Intelligent aliens exist. Distance and light speed are MASSIVE barriers between us, so chances are we will never meet.

if aliens exists then god must exists too

I am thinking about agreeing with you... but I could really use some cash... not alot, just pocket change, to be specific... about tree fiddy...
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I feel like there absolutely is life out there and on the off chance there isn't it's because we're either the first or last in what will be/has been a long line of civilizations.

Only other explanation for me would be that what we perceive as the universe is somehow just a fabricated existence but if that's the case then some intelligent being has to be overseeing it anyway, though I guess they could be the real humans and we're just fake ones.

Don't enjoy not knowing either way, so I try not to think about it too much.
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I find it highly unlikely that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.
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gguirao posted...

I find it highly unlikely that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.

why?
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FigureOfSpeech posted...

MoistenedYouth posted...

FigureOfSpeech posted...

PikachuMaxwell posted...

I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.

Pretty much this.

Odds that we are the only intelligence in the universe? Fuck that, so arrogant. We are not.

Odds that we will discover or be discovered by other intelligent life in the universe anytime soon? lol wtf.

Aliens exist. Intelligent aliens exist. Distance and light speed are MASSIVE barriers between us, so chances are we will never meet.

if aliens exists then god must exists too

I am thinking about agreeing with you... but I could really use some cash... not alot, just pocket change, to be specific... about tree fiddy...

don't take my word for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8q4PZMZAiM
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did... did you link to the right video?
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I think there are aliens of every level of development. some worlds are still like dinosaur planets. others are in the stone age or the bronze age or the Renaissance or like us, or a little bit better than us, or way better than us. I believe in billions of worlds with life

FigureOfSpeech posted...

PikachuMaxwell posted...

I think that distances are too far between stars. Most extraterrestrials are confined to their home planetary systems unless they've figured out a way to break the light speed barrier - the ultimate speed limit. As for whether Earth has been visited by aliens? Personally I doubt it.

Pretty much this.

Odds that we are the only intelligence in the universe? Fuck that, so arrogant. We are not.

Odds that we will discover or be discovered by other intelligent life in the universe anytime soon? lol wtf.

Aliens exist. Intelligent aliens exist. Distance and light speed are MASSIVE barriers between us, so chances are we will never meet.

This. Only the Universe is so big that even if Aliens have discovered a way to travel faster than light it would still take them several generations to reach us.
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GS4Life posted...

This. Only the Universe is so big that even if Aliens have discovered a way to travel faster than light it would still take them several generations to reach us.

that's not necessarily true.

"normal" ftl travel, once broken (if it can be), is a complete unknown. it could be quite easy to ramp up speed.

and the most known possible work-around, wormhole travel, there's no real reason distance should be a factor at all.

the best reason it would take them time to get here is if we're just that far down their list, lol.
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Medussa posted...

GS4Life posted...

This. Only the Universe is so big that even if Aliens have discovered a way to travel faster than light it would still take them several generations to reach us.

that's not necessarily true.

"normal" ftl travel, once broken (if it can be), is a complete unknown. it could be quite easy to ramp up speed.

and the most known possible work-around, wormhole travel, there's no real reason distance should be a factor at all.

the best reason it would take them time to get here is if we're just that far down their list, lol.

Wormhole travel sounds incredibly fatal. But light itself still takes ages to reach our view in the sky, a lot of stars we see at night don't really exist anymore.
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GS4Life posted...

Medussa posted...

GS4Life posted...

This. Only the Universe is so big that even if Aliens have discovered a way to travel faster than light it would still take them several generations to reach us.

that's not necessarily true.

"normal" ftl travel, once broken (if it can be), is a complete unknown. it could be quite easy to ramp up speed.

and the most known possible work-around, wormhole travel, there's no real reason distance should be a factor at all.

the best reason it would take them time to get here is if we're just that far down their list, lol.

Wormhole travel sounds incredibly fatal. But light itself still takes ages to reach our view in the sky, a lot of stars we see at night don't really exist anymore.

Certainly possible, but its something we are only starting to understand. But i dont know why youre citing the speed of light when talking about ftl. We have few ideas on how to go c, none more than theory. So i dont think theres any idea how much harder it is to go 2c than c, 10 c than 2c, or 10000c than 10c.
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You can't break c because anything with mass needs infinite energy to reach c, which is not possible.

Wormholes are barely theoretical outside sci-fi.

It would take 2 million years at c to reach our sister galaxy. Any life that can ever visit us would have to be in the 100-400 billion stars in our galaxy, which span 100k-180k lightyears.
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You cant accelerate to c. That doesnt mean there arent other ways to go that fast. Doesnt mean there are, though, either. But i do hope so, otherwise, shits going to get boring.
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Is there some kind of simplistic life out there? Almost definitely.

Is there complex life out there? Probably.

Is there intelligent life out there? Maybe somewhere, but probably not within the observable universe.

Has intelligent alien life ever visited Earth? Almost definitely not.
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I doubt we'll ever encounter an intelligent organic extraterrestrial, because of the truly massive distances between stars in space. Just putting a human on Mars is a monumental task due to the time it takes, a year in microgravity fucks up the human body, without even considering the food, water, and oxygen supply issues. We're far more likely to encounter some kind of extraterrestrial robots instead, but even that is unlikely because of the massive distances involved and the fact that our star is relatively unremarkable, there would be no good reason for an extraterrestrial species to send them to Earth unless they live at Alpha Centauri or they're doing some kind of thorough galactic survey
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synth_real posted...

Just putting a human on Mars is a monumental task due to the time it takes

for a civilization that's existed for 10-100 thousand years. other civs can easily be several orders of magnitude older than that.

as you say, space is massive. but time in this discussion can be just as massive.
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