Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 158: A Wolff in Sheep's Clothing

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MoogleKupo141
01/16/18 4:53:31 PM
#404:


SupremeZero posted...
MrGreenonion posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Trump is 6'3" and weighs 239 pounds.

So convenient that this puts his BMI at 29.9, just under the 30.0 cutoff for obese.

Also not believable in any way just looking at him I mean my god.

He's also probably not 6'3", given that his drivers license puts him at 6'2" apparently.


it's funny that dropping his height that inch with that same weight makes him technically obese

is this a conspiracy to trick us into thinking trump isn't quite as fat as he actually is
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ShadowYosuke
01/16/18 5:16:10 PM
#405:


If Trump is 6'3, I'd say he's probably closer to 255 lbs.
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My Immortal
01/16/18 5:18:36 PM
#406:


I don't want to be a crazy conspiracy theorist

But that all sounded so fake.
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Peace___Frog
01/16/18 5:25:19 PM
#407:


My Immortal posted...
I don't want to be a crazy conspiracy theorist

But that all sounded so fake.

You don't say
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charmander6000
01/16/18 6:09:52 PM
#408:


Here's a MoCA test for anyone curious

http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site-images/MoCA-Test-English_7_1.pdf

You need to get 26/30 to be classified as "normal"
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Metal_DK
01/16/18 6:12:57 PM
#409:


Trump is maybe 6"1' at this point
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HaRRicH
01/16/18 6:36:28 PM
#410:


charmander6000 posted...
Here's a MoCA test for anyone curious

http://dementia.ie/images/uploads/site-images/MoCA-Test-English_7_1.pdf

You need to get 26/30 to be classified as "normal"


That top row was messing with me because I thought 1A2B and the cube were involved in the same question. Otherwise, once I figured that out it was easy.

I wanna make fun of the test for how easy it was, but that's like saying I found the jokes to a kid's movie predictable: it's not FOR me. If Donald can do that, good, rule dementia out and we'll better focus on his many other problems.

This wouldn't be conducted by the same doctor from 2016 though, would it?
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Paratroopa1
01/16/18 7:14:03 PM
#411:


The "Trump has dementia" thing is stupid anyway - whether he does or doesn't isn't really the problem, it's the fact that even if he's sane he can't do this job

It's like how people really focus on the fact that he used the word "shithole" when that isn't the problem, either
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Jakyl25
01/16/18 7:24:34 PM
#412:


https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/953379719843602432

Has anyone coined "girther" for those who belive the president weighs more than his doctor reports?

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The Mana Sword
01/16/18 7:26:06 PM
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Suprak the Stud
01/16/18 7:28:54 PM
#415:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/953379719843602432

Has anyone coined "girther" for those who belive the president weighs more than his doctor reports?


RELEASE THE LONG FORM DOCTOR REPORT
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MoogleKupo141
01/16/18 7:34:24 PM
#417:


the way ulti's post is completely unrelated to what he's responding to makes me concerned he might be the one with dementia

he should take that online test
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Jakyl25
01/16/18 7:35:57 PM
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The Mana Sword
01/16/18 7:38:29 PM
#419:


Hatch gets a pass, I do stuff like that once in a while too
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Peace___Frog
01/16/18 8:06:16 PM
#420:


Paratroopa1 posted...
The "Trump has dementia" thing is stupid anyway - whether he does or doesn't isn't really the problem, it's the fact that even if he's sane he can't do this job

It's like how people really focus on the fact that he used the word "shithole" when that isn't the problem, either

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TheRock1525
01/16/18 8:12:16 PM
#421:


You know what Fox News is blaming the #metoo movement for? The Destruction of Men.

CARLSON: Where do you think this is going and the #MeToo movement at this point?

MAC DONALD: Well, its going toward the disappearing of men. Were going to see a wave of new gender quotas throughout the economy on the assumption that if we dont already have proportional representation of men and women across workplaces in science and computing and entertaining its because of gender patriarchies and harassment which is simply not the case.

What were seeing really, Tucker, is sexual liberation having a nervous breakdown. Before sexual liberation hit, in the 1950s, you had a set of traditional norms that recognized this basic truth: men and women are different. Its not social construction. Men and women have different biological drives. Their libidos are different and we had a set of norms that restrained the male libido, norms of gentlemanliness and courtesy and chivalry and we had a default for premarital sex for females that was No. And that gave females the power to say yes but they didnt have to negotiate with the male libido at every instance of some drunken coupling. Sexual liberation threw that all out and said, Men and women should go mano a mano on the sexual battlefield. Theyre equal in their desires, equal in their responses to casual sex.

And it turns out, when you set the default at yes for premarital sex, a lot of women have a hard time negotiating a no. And instead of recognizing that weve sort of screwed up the default settings and are working against biology. Women are blaming the patriarchy when the opposite is the case.

CARLSON: Whatever its effects, it has not made women happier the last 50 years. I mean, theres been a longitudinal study on this and American women have not become happier.

I wonder, if you destroy men or complete the destruction of men theyre pretty close to being destroyed, I would say. How does that help women, exactly? What will be the effect on women?

MAC DONALD: I think youre going to see a lot of regrets - Why arent men courting me? And, basically, civilization has been created by people with very powerful egos. It is of no relevance to me whether they were male or females. I want a meritocracy. I want people with drive to succeed. And if you have a rule that says powerful men should be out of the picture, I think we are going to reach a civilizational stasis.

CARLSON: Yeah, I mean, this has profound consequences. I dont fully understand all of em but I can smell it. This is a big deal. Heather, thank you for shedding some light on that.


Damn you premarital sex, you've destroyed men!
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The Mana Sword
01/16/18 8:18:16 PM
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Kenri
01/16/18 8:19:38 PM
#423:


TheRock1525 posted...
I wonder, if you destroy men or complete the destruction of men theyre pretty close to being destroyed, I would say.

i want this dude's optimism lmao
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TheRock1525
01/16/18 10:45:30 PM
#425:


Democrats just flipped another district that Trump won.

Wisconsin's SD10, which Trump won 55-38, was won by Patty Schachtner.
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NFUN
01/16/18 11:08:01 PM
#426:


TheRock1525 posted...
CARLSON: Whatever its effects, it has not made women happier the last 50 years. I mean, theres been a longitudinal study on this and American women have not become happier.

If he knows what a longitudinal study is he should know about baseline happiness or whatever the term is I forgot. Basically people tend to remain at a relatively constant level of happiness despite major changes in their lives
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Jakyl25
01/16/18 11:08:04 PM
#427:


TheRock1525 posted...
And, basically, civilization has been created by people with very powerful egos. It is of no relevance to me whether they were male or females...

...And if you have a rule that says powerful men should be out of the picture, I think we are going to reach a civilizational stasis.


Sounds like she does care that they are men
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TheRock1525
01/16/18 11:13:18 PM
#428:


Leave it to the NRA to make me wish Chelsea Manning would win a senate seat:

GRANT STINCHFIELD (HOST): Chelsea Manning is now running for the United States Senate --

DANA LOESCH: Bradley.

STINCHFIELD: Bradley Manning, Chelsea Manning, whatever he/she wants to call herself, himself. Running for United States Senate in Maryland. A felon, cant even vote for him or herself.

LOESCH: And dont correct me on pronouns, for anybody who is watching, because Im not going to suddenly pretend that this individual who is pretending to be a woman is a part of my sisterhood. He went through maturity and puberty as a male. Just because you get some boobs, and you put some red lipstick on, poorly applied, and a very poor smoky eye bad dye job, that dont make you a chick. So dont appropriate my sex.


Gotta love that transphobia combined with gun love.
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Suprak the Stud
01/16/18 11:16:44 PM
#429:


Wow.

I still don't want Chelsea Manning anywhere near that senate seat because she's a traitor to the country and a horrible human being.

But to take such pride is being transphobic...it's almost impressive!
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Dancedreamer
01/17/18 12:17:29 AM
#430:


I think people should just start refering to Dana Loesch as a man. And when he says "I'm a woman!" just say "Don't correct me on pronouns!"
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TheRock1525
01/17/18 12:19:42 AM
#431:


Dan Loesch.
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Kenri
01/17/18 12:23:50 AM
#432:


I wish I lived in Maryland just so I could vote for Chelsea Manning
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Dancedreamer
01/17/18 12:26:39 AM
#433:


TheRock1525 posted...
Dan Loesch.


Dana works as a man's name too.
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TheRock1525
01/17/18 12:27:52 AM
#434:


Yeah I know but since Chelsea changed her name I should assume that Dana would, too.
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ChaosTonyV4
01/17/18 12:36:20 AM
#435:


Suprak the Stud posted...
I still don't want Chelsea Manning anywhere near that senate seat because she's a traitor to the countryand a horrible human being.


Itd be interested to see why you think that bolded part, specifically?
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Suprak the Stud
01/17/18 12:47:30 AM
#436:


The part immediately preceding that, actually.

I am very much against giving huge swaths of information you never bothered to vet to a person who is essentially working for the Russian government to undermine the United States. I am "fine" with Obama commuting her sentence. But she should never be allowed near any sort of classified information ever again.
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MrGreenonion
01/17/18 12:56:20 AM
#437:


Yeah I mean I'm all for Chelsea Manning the trans activist but I am just not too sure about Chelsea Manning the US Senator. Especially since she's running as a primary challenger to a popular Democrat so she wouldn't even be helping take the majority.
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redrocket_pub
01/17/18 1:07:14 AM
#438:


MrGreenonion posted...
Especially since she's running as a primary challenger to a popular Democrat


Ok, this is coming across as self-serving now.
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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 3:52:57 AM
#441:


UltimaterializerX posted...
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1036681001

This is so good. Do whatever you have to do to get away from leftist policies.


As a citizen in what would be New California this is pretty damn stupid.

Also i feel like there should be some kind of vote involved if they are supposed to be seceding on my behalf.
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redrocket_pub
01/17/18 4:07:26 AM
#442:


There is nothing new or interesting about this; it's a bunch of hot air. Rural areas of states wanting to separate from their largest cities is a decades old meme. There was talk about this in New York as far back as the 80's at least. It's just a couple of loud idiots.
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Paratroopa1
01/17/18 4:11:25 AM
#443:


redrocket_pub posted...
There is nothing new or interesting about this; it's a bunch of hot air. Rural areas of states wanting to separate from their largest cities is a decades old meme. There was talk about this in New York as far back as the 80's at least. It's just a couple of loud idiots.

It's also a completely self-defeating notion

where do you think California's major economic centers are

you really wanna split off of those yeah ok good luck and tell me how it works out
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Eddv
01/17/18 4:23:11 AM
#444:


Suprak the Stud posted...
The part immediately preceding that, actually.

I am very much against giving huge swaths of information you never bothered to vet to a person who is essentially working for the Russian government to undermine the United States. I am "fine" with Obama commuting her sentence. But she should never be allowed near any sort of classified information ever again.


Yeah, this is really important - you can think that Chelsea Manning didnt deserve several decades in federal prison but she's a traitor and shouldn't EVER be allowed to be on the inside of the National Security apparatus again.
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MoogleKupo141
01/17/18 4:29:35 AM
#445:


UltimaterializerX posted...
You cant change chromosomes no matter what surgery you get, and I dont care what label someone feels like using when this gets point out. Chelsea Manning will forever biologically be a male. Its a complete and total scientific fact.

The VAST majority of people feel the same way. Deal with it.


ulti how do you not get the difference between biological sex and gender by now

no one thinks she changed her chromosomes
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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 4:56:31 AM
#447:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Which means gender wasn't changed, either, since gender is decided by chromosomes.


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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 5:09:20 AM
#449:


Gender as in gender roles is not same gender as in physical sex.

I know that's confusing but words can mean different things. So maybe stop being thick and consider that maybe other people use the word in a different way and that doesn't make them inherently wrong.
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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 5:36:51 AM
#451:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The F would I be talking about anything but the scientific definition for, genius?


Maybe because other people are using the other definition and it would be asanine of you to "correct" them by pointing to a definition that is entirely irrelevant to the conversation they are having.

For example consider this theoretical conversation:

FD: Dang, Ulti is being pretty awful.

Other People: Yeah, really awful !!

Ulti: You mean to say that I fill you with awe? Im touched. Because as everyone knows the word "awful" circa 1700 mean to inspire to wonderment or awe.

Everyone: .....


Or you could not be intentionally dense about it and actually participate in the conversation by understanding what other people mean when they use a word with more than one possible definition.
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Forceful_Dragon
01/17/18 5:50:03 AM
#452:


For the record im not even saying you have to agree. Just be a human capable of understanding that not everyone defines things the same way as you. Actually try to understand what others mean and then if you still don't agree then explain why not by simultaneously defending your definition and expressing that you at least fundamentally comprehend the other definition.
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EndOfDiscOne
01/17/18 7:17:30 AM
#453:


Guy on HLN just said that Trump has heart disease? Do they just mean the high cholesterol or is there something else? I googled it but didnt see anything.
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