Board 8 > Zero Time Dilemma: A KCF Playthrough Topic

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What's going on with the antidote puzzle is clearer if you map the letters to binary:

A: 000
B: 001
C: 010
D: 011
E: 100
F: 101
G: 110
H: 111

So one person takes each antidote with a 1 in the first spot, the next person takes each antidote with a 1 in the second spot, and the third person takes each one with a 1 in the third spot. Then from the reactions (1 for a reaction, 0 for no reaction) you can reconstruct the number of the antidote.
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KCF0107 posted...

Gab better not be fucking Zero.

Well...about that...
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actually, it's the other way around

Bestiality jokes! I love 'em
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I may or may not get around to playing today due to birthday stuff
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Resuming today
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I chose the third column, third fragment from the top for Q team

Triangle

A harmlessly vague title for what's to come. I like it! Unlike all the other fragments, this one didn't involve teams regaining consciousness. They were already wide awake when Eric screamed upon finding a secret room. Q had another vision shortly after entering that was back in that same hospital/clinic room with a man's voice heard.

In two of the safes, I found a handgun and a crossbow. This, uh, isn't going to end well is it? Oh, now we added a grenade launcher to the arsenal. Yeah, death is definitely going to proceed this puzzle room. I found a piece of paper that read as follows:

Bullet for C team
Arrow for Q team
Acid for D team (with that being crossed out)

I soon discovered it was for a puzzle solution relating to the hilarious pictures of the cast. Well, it was really just Q, Eric, and Sigma that had hilarious pictures. However, I am also wondering if that piece of paper had another meaning. We know that the D team had that Quarantine Room fragment, so I'm wondering (in the scenario where it does have an extra meaning) if acid was crossed off because I had already experienced that figment.
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DeathChicken posted...

My feelings for this game are complex

tag
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This game has so many great things in it
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I could not find the key hole for the longest time. It's possible that I just never had the key in my item slot, but I swear that I did and had already clicked where the keyhole was. Inside was simply a piece of paper that said "Kill One." After being shown Junpei's head from the front (a la Carlo's vision), Carlos killing himself (Radical-6 maybe?), and that the entirety of D team was dead (Mira claims it was from a voting execution), it was clear what the message meant.

With a grenade launcher, gun, and crossbow, things are going to get ugly fast, but first the X passes were Five/Fire (my handwriting isn't the best), Jump, Blue, Red, Milk. These were once again different than the previous two times that X passes were revealed. That doesn't come as much of a surprise as this appears to be a different timeline than the other instances.

Eric is a real wild card. Assuming everyone is the same from the old games, Junpei and Akane have morphogenetic powers, Sigma and Phi and jump through time, Carlos has powers similar to Akane and Junpei, Diana's body is being possessed and/or she has some sort of powers, and Mira might be a time jumper as well. Q is a big mystery too, but his design made that way too obvious. Eric though looks and (relatively) acts normal. I wonder if he will be the Quark of this game or the wheels will start turning on his true self.

Anyone, this predicament unsurprisingly turned into a Mexican standoff. I wonder if this is the Mexican standoff I saw in the opening video. Eventually, I could type in who to kill. I am guessing that I'm still Q, but I wonder if I could put Q in or nobody. I didn't feel like doing either because I assumed both would end in quick and unsatisfactory conclusions. I kind of wanted to keep Eric alive to see if I could get a better glimpse inside him, but I like him being a total mystery still and want to drag that out. Mira though I feel I am on the cusp of a major breakthrough regarding something about her, so I decided that Eric should die.

Eric did in fact die. It wasn't by my crossbow shot but Mira's gunshot. It certainly wasn't in the head as there was no bullet wound to be found there, but I guess the particulars don't matter. The exchange the two had was weird. Eric and Mira are just really weird together. I don't really know how else to put it. Eric's last words of "You look better when you smile" were Mira's first's words. Her first's words. Where is this heading...oh, she's stabbing Eric with the crossbow and getting blood all over herself...alrighty then. She wants to touch his hear...oh fuck she's the serial killer from the stories. I already forget the name they gave her. The absence of feelings. I feel like sociopath might not be the most accurate word to describe her, but for the time being, I'm just going to call her one. This revelation explains SO MANY of the questions that I had about her. This is a much better payoff than what Danganronpa did with Toko and Genocide Jack/Jill.
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Eric works in an ice cream shop. Either on the box art or a promotional image somewhere, Eric had this blank expression all across his face except for a little smile. The first thing that came to mind was, "This guy straight up looks like a pedophile." It all makes sense why now. Anyway, Mira said that Eric was a talentless, useless weakling, but there was something special about him. Is that the sound of wheels turning? I guess that I will have to wait to learn more about Eric.

Q looked up at the red message in the lounge and immediately said that it was an anagram and solved it as "The truth is invisible." My Q is potentially Quark theory got a little stronger. I also received the last X pass, which was also different, but the damnedest thing happened. It's entirely possible that I misread the initial batch of X passes, but I was certain that it was Five/Fire or at the very least was a four letter word that began with five. After resorting to a list of all 4 and 5 letter words that begin with F, it was apparently Fight. I'm open to the idea that this was planned by the developers.

The dog also followed the group out, but I'm keeping an eye out in case there is an instance where the dog doesn't go through the elevator door with you. Who would have thought that Q would easily become the most normal and sane person from the Q team?

Q-End 1
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I think that I want to see at least one more fragment from the D and C team before going into character analysis and theories. A few questions that arose from this particular one that I didn't cover yet:
- With all the shit that went down with C team, what was Akane's role in it?
- Is the game suggesting that there's a connection with Eric and Mira's first human victim.
- The flowchart from that fragment showed four possible outcomes from the decision. Mira and Eric must be two. Were Q and Nobody the others?

I almost feel like going back to find the answer to the last question, but I am way too curious about C team now and will be doing their team next. Eventually, I am going to have to go back and change the results from the voting decision as I assume that will be necessary to open up more fragments.
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KCF0107 posted...

...oh fuck she's the serial killer from the stories

Oh you found that out much faster than I did.
The revelation will make you extra aware of her actions and words in future fragments...meanwhile, I kept questioning why Mira is just ever slightly...off for longer. That was fun too.
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I also got Q-End 1 within my first 3 hours. It really makes a bunch of Mira's/Eric's future scenes a whole lot less confusing.
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Going through with my promise to go with C team. I took the 2nd column, first fragment.

Suspicion

We begin in the pantry. It's just Carlos and Akane. Is Junpei being beheaded somewhere about now? Carlos spoke some curious words. He wondered if Junpei was Zero's accomplice. Not Zero, but Zero's accomplice. I suppose we might chalk that up to the concept of one of them being Zero never crossing his mind, but I swear that came up with Q and D team, so I don't think that I can give Carlos a free pass for that one. The conversation eventually turned to Junpei's shift in personality, and Akane actually wonders if the events from 999 had an effect. God help her.

Once I was able to move around and interact with the environment, I clicked on a door that led to the freezer. The window was obscured from water vapor. Wasn't the image of Carlos discovering Junpei's head in a pantry-like room...Didn't Junpei's head show signs of being frozen...There are non-head body parts all over the room that Carlos and Akane think are life-like fakes...I love dramatic irony. lol Carlos playing rock, paper, scissors with Junpei's hand. I love the little moments of levity such as this.

Yep, Junpei's head, alongside evidence that this was the scene of the crime, an axe, and a chainsaw. Akane is looking like she's going to turn in a less subtle version of Clover in 999, but an axe vs. chainsaw standoff seems to be on the horizon. D team all died, and all four of the X passes given were repeats. I should probably take a gander at the overarching flowchart again and see if I can piece all of my current experiences together. I didn't even have to glance at it or my notes to remember that those X passes were the ones that I just had in the Q team study fragment. I guess this means I will soon witness the events that sparked Carlos' suicide.
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Carlos and Akane began by using the axe and chainsaw respectively on the doors. Unfortunately, they brought them to the lounge. Now I play the waiting game to see who snaps first. Before that, Carlos revealed further what he began talking about before regarding needing the money. He has a younger sister named Maria and he knows of Reverie Syndrome because Maria has it. The image they showed of his sister in the hospital/clinic are similar to that we saw from Q, only from a different angle. If only I remember the voice of the male medical professional from both memories. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same. Anyway, Reverie Syndrome is definitely not Radical-6, but there are some similarities to where I wonder if Radical-6 was mutated and weaponized from the vaccine or disease (if either apply) that is Reveries Syndrome.

Oh fuck, Akane made the first move in accusing Carlos of killing Junpei. Conversation with her is pointless, but in a puzzling move, she scurried off somewhere. Soon, the lounge was all lit in red. I'm guessing that was Akane's doing, but I honestly don't see the point. She's delirious, so I guess I can cut her some slack. Also, the red lighting is what we saw in the clip of Carlos' suicide, so I guess the moment of truth is upon us.

"There you are!" - Akane remarking on Carlos
- Okay, he has stood in place since you tried to kill him with a chainsaw. I can't cut you any slack for such a dumb statement.
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Okay, so I now have a prompt to enter in a name. I guess they want me to answer who I think killed Junpei. If I say Carlos, I think it will just loop to where Q team started off in the lounge prior to the study. Akane is also a choice. Carlos brought up an excellent point that we don't know what happened in the 3-5 hours since the vote and teams woke up again. I am assuming that there is no time manipulation here and that 3-5 hours did in fact elapse normally. Anyway, we assume that you are knocked out, but I suppose you could remain unconscious and "be possessed" like Diana believes she was. The other teams are probably off-limits.

Gab was in the room (they intriguingly did get a camera shot focusing on him), and while it is a physical impossibility for it to pull this off, I wonder if I could have put his name down. I could do Zero even if I didn't believe that Zero killed Junpei. That would seem to be the only potential way to calm her down. Akane is probably a lost cause though. Might as well kill her. Carlos lost his hand due to indecision, and that reminds me that Sigma should eventually lose both of his hands in this game (unless that is another retcon). Shortly after landing a mortal blow across Akane's neck, the fragment abruptly ended. Okay then!
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It was time to go with D team again. I chose the first column, second fragment from the top.

Fire

In the trash disposal room, there's no Phi to be found. I thought it was going to be a repeat of Suspicion, but Phi was only locked in the incinerator. That sucks...what's that? 30 minutes until the garbage is incinerated? Saying that sucks might have been premature. Hanging from the ceiling is a box that contains a revolver. Clever double entendre regarding the fragment title. I hit a wall trying to solve the room's puzzles, but I accidentally backed out of the inventory menu with the goggles being highlighted, and all was good after that.

One odd thing happened though. On Phi's end, she found out the weight of the screws and screwdriver. It was Diana and Sigma who had to input that figure into a chute. I didn't recall Phi ever telling the others her findings from that, and Diana said that she knew those were the correct numbers to punch in. The players were not privy to any sort of vision, so call me skeptical.

Eventually, a chair popped up after pressing a big, red button. Diana sat in it, but nothing happened. When Sigma did, he was locked in. I forgot to look closely at the image of Diana in the chair, but it would make sense that she was too short for the trap to work properly. That being said, I believe that she did ask Sigma to try the chair out. It could just turn out to be a plot convenience. The revolver fit into a contraption next to the chair, and a flap opened up that pointed the barrel squarely at Sigma's head. I smell an either/or situation looming.
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Love that fragment
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There's a reason it's on the box art, this scene is actually very good. If only the game could have maintained that quality.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

There's a reason it's on the box art, this scene is actually very good. If only the game could have maintained that quality.

All of this, yeah. That's a very striking imagery.
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Zero told the story of the murdered woman/falsely accused man, and suicidal wife story again, but added a small one about a taxi driver, surgeon, and surgeon's young patient. The snail was brought up again claiming that a single snail caused not just all six deaths, but billions. At the beginning of the game, Carlos was called a snail and was told the fate of billions hangs in his decision of what side the coin came up. If Carlos caused all these deaths, which would include the woman that presumably Mira had killed, then I honestly have no explanation.

The obvious choice presented to me is to pull the trigger because as Sigma pointed out, it's the only possibility where everyone could live. Because it's the obvious choice, I assumed that it would be a live round and not a blank that would come out of the revolver. Still, I don't want to witness Phi being burned alive. I did wonder if the tool box, the box the revolver came in, or the chain rolled up was made up of a strong enough material to prevent a bullet from penetrating it, but alas that didn't appear to be an option.

I did pull the trigger, and as expected, Sigma died. Phi didn't take it well, but Diana apparently took it worse because she killed herself with the revolver. I noted that there were now 3 blanks and 1 live round, but that was apparently game over. I forgot that I am in charge of a single character.
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I'm thinking that I will re-visit some old fragments before going through some new ones. I am mainly talking about voting the opposite for each team, and looking at the flowchart to see any fragments that an opposite decision would result in what would appear to be a bad ending (such as choosing Carlos in Suspicion). I just want to see if new fragments would open up and new perspectives that might help shed some light on characters or events.

First, I want to organize all the fragments from each group that I've done thus far and do some character theories. It might time to dust off the old Zerometer.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

There's a reason it's on the box art, this scene is actually very good. If only the game could have maintained that quality.

So far, I might be liking this a tad more than VLR despite it having noticeably more flaws. I just hope that I haven't already experienced the best fragments that the game has to offer.
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KCF0107 posted...

It might time to dust off the old Zerometer.

H Y P E
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KCF0107 posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

There's a reason it's on the box art, this scene is actually very good. If only the game could have maintained that quality.

So far, I might be liking this a tad more than VLR despite it having noticeably more flaws. I just hope that I haven't already experienced the best fragments that the game has to offer.

Well, you have experienced like more than half? of the most dramatic ones I think.
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fun fact, whether the gun in Fire shoots a live round or a blank really is a 50/50 chance each time you play the fragment!

the coin at the beginning is too, except for the very first time you play it which is always a winning guess

I think there might be one or more other instances of random chance in the game that work as advertised, but I don't remember exactly where they are (and I'm not gonna mention them before you get to them yourself anyway)
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Not going to bother summarizing the Execution memories that all teams experienced.

C Team Fragments
1. Poison
- Chose correct antidote
- Carlos sees vision of Junpei's disembodied head
- Junpei claims he hasn't had use of his morphogenetic powers since 999

2. Suspicion
- Junpei dead before events of fragment
- Carlos reveals his reason for joining mission
- Akane loses it
- Carlos kills Akane but loses a hand

D Team Fragments
1. First Come, First Saved
- Pressed button killing other teams
- Diana claims to not be in control of her body sometimes
- Diana has vision of dead teams
- Phi and Sigma presumably leave via elevator
- Diana chooses not to go to surface for unknown reasons
- Zero reveals knowledge that Phi will send rescue team

2. Fire
- Sigma is killed by Diana via Decision Game
- Diana kills herself

Q Team Fragments
1. Triangle
- Eric finds hidden room
- Q recalls a memory inside of a hospital/clinic room
- Team is shown clip of Junpei's disembodied head and Carlos' suicide
- Zero, presumably, goads team to kill one of their own
- Q and Mira kill Eric
- Mira reveals herself to be a serial killer incapable of feeling most emotions
- Mira reveals that Eric worked in an ice cream shop and was a very special person despite being useless and talentless
- Q immediately can recognize and solve anagrams
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Zyxyz0 posted...

fun fact, whether the gun in Fire shoots a live round or a blank really is a 50/50 chance each time you play the fragment!

That would explain why there were more than two outcomes for the Fire decision.
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Looking at the flowchart, here are the fragments that I have experienced in chronological order within a timeline with teams in parenthesis

??? -> First Come, First Serve (D)

Poison (C) -> Fire (D)

Suspicion (C) -> Triangle (Q)
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Eventually, I could type in who to kill. I am guessing that I'm still Q, but I wonder if I could put Q in or nobody. I didn't feel like doing either because I assumed both would end in quick and unsatisfactory conclusions.

You should do this. Not right now, but later.

Is Junpei being beheaded somewhere about now?

I kek'd

Gab was in the room (they intriguingly did get a camera shot focusing on him), and while it is a physical impossibility for it to pull this off, I wonder if I could have put his name down.

Yes, go back and do this too at some point. In fact, always attempt to put in Gab for any name input.

That would explain why there were more than two outcomes for the Fire decision.

Eventually you'll want to make every available choice here. Let Phi die, shoot and kill Sigma, and shoot a blank at Sigma. When I played, my first time through that fragment, Sigma lived and I felt so damn relieved. I didn't want to go back and play it until he died. ;(
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Yeah, I got the Sigma lives outcome at first as well.
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The Zerometer

I change my measurement system each game, but the gist of this is that I analyze characters and use the analysis to determine how likely I feel that they could be Zero (or an accomplice). I was excellent at this in 999, but VLR was a different story. I will be disappointed if none of the nine turn out to be Zero or an accomplice, but what are the odds? Here are the tiers from least likely to be Zero/accomplice to most likely:

Absolute Zero
Frigid
Temperate
Heated
Sizzling
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Q - Temperate

I'm surprised that they went with a facial obscurement for a second-straight game. I'm not sure if it is my main theory about Q, but Q being Quark would explain the Q moniker and history with anagrams (not that I am certain that Quark was aware of the anagrams given how much of the game he was unconscious for). Very little else was revealed about Quark in VLR, which serves as a double-edged sword within this context as Q is still just a giant mystery. Another obstacle is that Quark would not have been born for a long time, but with all the crazy stuff the series has thrown at me, anything is possible I suppose.

Another theory that popped up after Suspicion was that Q could be Carlos' sister. Carlos' sister seems to be quite younger than him (he's like what 25?). How much younger is the key, but in the absence of concrete information, I'm going to say that she's no older than 10, which would put her in Q's territory. It could have very well have been a budgeting issue, but the vision of Q and Carlos inside of a hospital/clinic looked similar. I am kicking myself for not paying close attention to the voice of the male medical professional in Q's vision to know if it matched up with Carlos'.

At this stage though, I find it more likely that the big twist regarding Q is about their appearance than for any possible role they had in the design and carrying out of the Decision Game.

Mira - Absolute Zero

Not only does pulling a stunt like this require some intense emotions, but the goals of this (which seem to revolve around the prevention of mass deaths) likely have little overlap with Mira's goal of understanding the human heart. I'm glad that I got to know her character early on. I had mentioned a time or two that her mannerisms were bugging me, and had it not been revealed that she was a serial killer and the motives behind it, those early moments with her were likely to consume my thoughts. Her character isn't fully complete yet as among other things, I have no idea why she signed up for DCOM's experiment, but I would be shocked if any future revelations would put her in either of the two warmest categories.

Eric - Heated

I'm keeping my eye on Eric. He is one of a few characters to not exhibit any signs of a special ability. Mira and Sigma (more on him later) also haven't, but there's nothing about Eric to take the attention off that. In D's First Come, First Serve bad ending, Diana had what appeared to be a live conversation with Zero that revealed that Zero has a special ability (claimed that they knew Phi was going to send a rescue team). That would seem to take the heat off of Eric, but I haven't forgotten what Mira told us.

Mira's story about her first encounter with Eric had her calling Eric talentless and useless, but she knew there was something special about him. I think the starting point is that he has morphogenetic and/or time-jumping powers. Seeing as how that's been done in each of the previous two games, I don't think that they will stop there. It's hard to get a good read on what that may be due to his morbid fascination with Mira. All of me hopes at least some of it is a front because he can be downright insufferable.
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Diana - Heated

Once the murky air surrounding Mira started to dissipate, it all seemingly reappeared around Diana. What an odd duck. It isn't just the claims of possession, but her overall weak mental strength and how she converses with Phi and Sigma. Something is obviously up with all the characters, but something is REALLY up with her. The fact that they held back her main reason for joining the DCOM experiment adds another layer to her mystique.

The First Come, First Serve bad ending might have normally eliminated her from being Zero, but I'm far from convinced. At the very least, an accomplice role still on the table, even an unwitting one.

Phi - Frigid

I don't have much to say about Phi, but she is essentially the same character as her VLR counterpart. I won't say never, but if there's one of the four returning characters that I'm sure is the real deal, it's Phi in a landslide.

Sigma - Temperate

It is weirder for me to see him in the quasi-supporting role than it is Junpei. Junpei seems like a totally different character, but I see plenty of the VLR Sigma in this one. That being said, he hasn't demonstrated any signs of time-jumping. It isn't like Phi has exhibited the signs more than once, but I have controlled the team three times already. I feel like I should have seen something by now.
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Carlos - Heated

During Suspicion, players were shown a glimpse of the internal thought process of Carlos when he was trying to determine under duress who the most likely culprit behind Junpei's death was. I can't put my finger on it as to why, but it seemed Zero-esque to me.

Carlos is also the de-factor leader of the entire group as I think Zero said as much, or at the very least was the one to decide the coinflip. Not only that, but being the only character called a snail when the (literal? figurative?) snail is so important that it killed billions of people in the near future is certainly something that you can't overlook. Perhaps Zero is future Carlos and is trying to get present Carlos to not make the mistakes that cause the Radical-6 virus or whatever. I don't know, but the game got me obsessed about the snail.

Akane - Frigid

Much like Clover's deteriorated mental state in 999 cleared her of any skepticism I had toward her, Akane's similar descension has her off my radar. I honestly can't think of any questions that I have about her ZTD version. I'm sure that will change, but for now she's on the cusp of reaching Absolute Zero.

Junpei - Temperate

I can see the personality, journey let's say, from 999 Junpei to VLR Junpei within ZTD Junpei. Before he becomes the deeply cynical man who wants little to do with the rest of humanity, he still has a bond with Akane that brings out glimpses of who he once was as seen in the Poison fragment when he worries over Akane's health and trusts Carlos implicitly when all of their lives are in danger.

I don't think that he's Zero at all, but I am somewhat open to the idea of him being an accomplice. Akane and Junpei didn't sign up for the DCOM experiment knowing that the other did, but Junpei did say that it was fate that brought them together. That could be interpreted in numerous ways, so I still have doubts regarding his role in all of this.
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If you want a list of most likely to least likely that someone is or is in leagues with Zero, here it is:

Eric
Carlos
Diana
Junpei
Sigma
Q
Phi
Akane
Mira
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Interesting

And there's plenty of good stuff left. The only top tier moment you've seen so far is Fire imo.
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One sentence has me grinning pretty hard.
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I played the game myself first, and Sigma lived my first try. Then I played with someone else, and it took 4 tries to get Sigma to live, which prompted me to think I was doing something wrong, and there was some kind of flag I wasn't activating that I unknowingly did my first try.
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I like Junpei in this game. Given everything that happened to him in 999 (Hi, your childhood crush killed you like 15 times because save states exist and nothing matters), it made sense he'd wind up...well, close to Tenmoldy, if not quite there yet
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Excellent write ups.
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I went back to five previous decision trees and did the opposite. As requested, I held off on Triangle and Fire, but I did all three of the Executions fragments, Suspicion, and Poison. Poison yielded nothing of interest other than the sample results being randomized it seems. Akane felt some tingling but Junpei and Carlos did not. The execution fragment for D team wasn't of any interest other than with this being the first vote change that I did and was surprised at the form of execution. The other fragments stood out to me in various ways.

The Execution fragment for C team had a little intrigue. Junpei sort of congratulated Carlos for writing the a note detailing how teams should vote, based on Akane's plan no less, and stabbed Q team in the back. In Q team's execution scene, a yellow door was hidden behind a false wall or something, and because we didn't get any look at the study door from Triangle, I'm wondering if that yellow door leads to another room.

There was an exchange during the execution fragment for Q team, specifically D team's execution scene. Phi was perplexed at the voting results and thought that the trick behind the game must be nonsensical or illogical. Zero chimed in and said that the true culprit is the one who decided to kill D team. The best bet is that was sort of a fourth-wall-breaking moment with Phi incidentally talking about the player while Zero was making direct commentary about the player. A theory that has sort of been sitting in the back of my mind since D team's fragment First Come, First Served is that the big twist could possibly be that the player, not Carlos/Q/Diana, is Zero or an accomplice of Zero. The only thing that I have to back that up is the possession claims by Diana.

Finally, choosing Carlos in Suspicion led to some odd things. The least odd thing was Akane saying that there was no way that Carlos killed Junpei. The oddest thing was the unlike the decision where Carlos determined that Akane killed Junpei, Akane returned to the lounge totally calm (while still holding a buzzing chainsaw mind you). What the fuck is up with that? She was delirious and certain the Carlos killed Junpei and suddenly wasn't?
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Going back to Q team, I went with the third column, final fragment

Pop Off

Q remembers the execution scene, so it's looking more likely that he has one of the two major abilities. I actually forget how vivid of memories one gets from being a time-jumper, so I don't know if Q would have those or morphogenetic powers. Eric and I are on the Pod Room, and it's never a good sign when the third member is missing. Eric seemed to calm down and act humane toward Q, but if Mira turns up dead, which seems likely, he will probably do a complete 180 by being a lunatic and blame everything on Q. To make matters worse, we gave Eric a hammer early in the puzzle sequence.

Q/Eric pairing was actually quite funny, especially when Eric was being an idiot with the hammer and kept coming up with excuses not to do the sliding block puzzles. Speaking of those sliding block puzzles, I normally loathe them, but these were surprisingly good because they involved fewer pieces and didn't require 75+ moves to solve. One exchange the two had during this time was about some game they called it about getting a car out of the parking lot. I took this as playfully whining about the difficulties of parking lots/garages, which means that Q could possibly be of driving age or have the memories of someone who was.

Eric eventually upgraded from a hammer to a shotgun and was acting pretty crazy and reckless with it. Then a pod came out after pressing the button with Mira dead inside. Then I knew Q was going to be a dead boy/girl/man/woman/thing, but there was something more pressing. Mira's mouth contained what ended up being the way to leave the pod room. This leaves many questions and possibilities as to who killed Mira and where/why/how.

Mira was apparently strangled to death, and Eric started to fall into despair. He recounted a memory of I think his abusive killing Eric's younger brother while Eric was forced to dispose of the evidence. Shortly after, it was revealed to take place during the Suspicion timeline as we saw Junpei's severed head again and Carlos dealing a mortal blow to Akane in the lounge. With that six X passes were revealed, all but one I recognized from before. I'm realizing now that these words have ties to 999 and VLR. June and Jump(y) were code/nicknames for Akane and Junpei. Milk was part of a major password in VLR and is Kyle's surname backwards. Red and Blue, while more basic, could be talking about cromatic doors in VLR. As for Virgin, I'm sure there was a virgin joke or someone said they were a virgin somewhere, probably 999.
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Q made one remark, and Eric immediately assumed that Q and Carlos were teaming up to ensure that they left. Q, from a position of absolutely no physical leverage somehow managed to push Eric a good 10-15 feet into a wall. Q also did this during Q team's execution. I do not have a theory for this yet.

Eric brought the shotgun to the lounge and instead of shooting Q, he destroyed the X Pass input device. I cannot even fathom why. Much like Suspicion, I was asked who killed Mira. Because of the aforementioned key to leaving the pod room being on Mira, I had my doubts if Q or Eric killed Mira and said Zero. Eric agreed with me, but only in the macro sense. He still believed that Q was directly responsible for Mira's death and shot Q point-blank with a shotgun. THERE WAS NO BLOOD. I feel compelled to look at Q team's execution again to make sure that blood came out of Q's body because otherwise it's looking like Q might be inorganic.

I might play another fragment later, but I'm unsure if it will be C or D team.
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KCF0107 posted...

Speaking of those sliding block puzzles, I normally loathe them, but these were surprisingly good because they involved fewer pieces and didn't require 75+ moves to solve.

Damn you, Layton!
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"The only things I can trust are me...and this big gun!"

Only good thing Eric does in this damn game
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Eric is great, I dunno why people hate him so much
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So I just experienced the best Eric has to offer? Great...
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The X Pass words are all related to the character they correspond to in some way, and IIRC which of the possible words is used in a given fragment is tied to how that character died in that timeline. I can try to find a list of them after you finish the whole game if you care
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that Q could possibly be of driving age

You mean that he's a small person?
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