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WastelandCowboy 12/27/17 8:56:40 PM #1: |
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/27/573845851/accidentally-killing-birds-isnt-a-crime-says-trump-administration
The Trump administration says it will no longer criminally prosecute companies that accidentally kill migratory birds. The decision reverses a rule made in the last weeks of the Obama administration. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/27/17 8:57:07 PM #2: |
Renewable energy projects have also been found in violation. In 2013, Duke Energy pleaded guilty to violating the act in connection with the deaths of two golden eagles at its wind projects in Wyoming, in what the Justice Department said was the "first ever criminal enforcement of the Migratory Bird Treaty Act for unpermitted avian takings at wind projects." "Oh shit, sorry. Our bad!" (Not really, lol). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 12/27/17 8:59:10 PM #3: |
Protip: Accidents aren't criminal.
--- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hop103 12/27/17 9:06:50 PM #4: |
Ok, if that's the case, then help me solve my energy woes by letting people have wind turbines in their yard in city limits.
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Zeus 12/27/17 9:10:41 PM #5: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
Collin O'Mara, president of the National Wildlife Federation, told the Post that neither administration had gotten it right: The interpretation was too broad before, and now it is too narrow. Sounds about right. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/27/17 9:56:01 PM #6: |
Hop103 posted...
Ok, if that's the case, then help me solve my energy woes by letting people have wind turbines in their yard in city limits. Yes please. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Mario99 12/27/17 10:01:45 PM #7: |
Lokarin posted...
Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. It is if you accidentally run over somebody while drinking. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 12/27/17 10:04:15 PM #8: |
Why should it be a crime?
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Lokarin 12/27/17 10:09:43 PM #9: |
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. Who builds a wind turbine while drunk? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 12/27/17 10:19:32 PM #10: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
hangs the sword of Damocles this anecdote does not fit at all here WastelandCowboy posted... The National Audubon Society said the Trump administration's interpretation guts the treaty and runs counter to decades of legal precedent and conservation principles. "The Migratory Bird Treaty Act is one of the most important conservation laws we have," the group says. and why is everything a;ways the "most important" when it comes to these sort of things oh, you want to let it so a company can kill ants? nope. that act is the most important act of all the acts to ever have been enacted. --- "Dogs smell like they've had too much fun and need a bath Cats smell like espionage" - Mead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 12/27/17 10:32:11 PM #11: |
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. Drinking while driving is a crime --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/27/17 10:33:07 PM #12: |
Lokarin posted...
Who builds a wind turbine while drunk? Is that a dare? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 12/27/17 11:08:53 PM #13: |
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Metal_Mario99 12/28/17 12:29:48 AM #14: |
Lokarin posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. You didn't specify the kind of accident. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Mario99 12/28/17 12:30:18 AM #15: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. Yes, but I'm assuming that the drunk driver didn't deliberately run that guy over. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 12/28/17 12:34:51 AM #16: |
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Metal_Mario99 posted...Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. So the driver shouldn't get charged for a crime? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Mario99 12/28/17 12:39:55 AM #17: |
Muffinz0rz posted...
Metal_Mario99 posted...Muffinz0rz posted...Metal_Mario99 posted...Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. You said that accidents aren't crimes. I corrected you. That's all. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muffinz0rz 12/28/17 12:41:19 AM #18: |
Metal_Mario99 posted...
You said that accidents aren't crimes SourceNotFound.jpg --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) FantaCE Football Squad: ELIMINATED. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Mario99 12/28/17 12:44:51 AM #19: |
Lokarin posted...
Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. Okay, Lokarin said it. Whatever. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanonsSpirit 12/28/17 12:46:33 AM #20: |
Lokarin posted...
Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. Manslaughter is an accidental crime. --- http://i.imgur.com/tsQUpxC.jpg Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[|||||||||||||]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metal_Mario99 12/28/17 12:47:32 AM #21: |
GanonsSpirit posted...
Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. That's what I'm saying. --- The GameFAQs mods are terrible at their job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joemodda 12/28/17 1:02:00 AM #22: |
Bird lives don't matter it seems.
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shadowsword87 12/28/17 1:03:32 AM #23: |
Who is going to label when something is an "accident"? The company?
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Zeus 12/28/17 1:06:11 AM #24: |
Lokarin posted...
Who builds a wind turbine while drunk? Rick Sanchez? #WhatPartOfBlackoutDrunkDon'tYouUnderstand? helIy posted... and why is everything a;ways the "most important" when it comes to these sort of things We live in a pretty dramatic world, tbh. joemodda posted... Bird lives don't matter it seems. Considering that chicken is one of the most widely consumed meats in this country... --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 12/28/17 1:24:26 AM #25: |
Mead posted...
Why should it be a crime? Because it causes environmental harm. It's conceptually similar to limiting what companies are allowed to dump into bodies of water, in that such regulations are meant to limit the harm done to the local ecosystem. That's not to say that companies should be held responsible for all bird deaths that result from their operations, but requiring a certain degree of due diligence isn't particularly unreasonable. Basically, the comment that the previous interpretation was too broad and this one is too narrow seems right to me. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 12/28/17 1:29:48 AM #26: |
Oh s***, this is including oil spills.
So oil companies wouldn't be legally obligated to help out. They probably still will as a big PR move, but it will be half of what they would have paid otherwise. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/28/17 2:28:56 AM #27: |
shadowsword87 posted...
Oh s***, this is including oil spills. Pretty sure they'd be obligated to clean for countless other reasons. It's not like they just repealed every environmental act on the books or something. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadowsword87 12/28/17 2:32:02 AM #28: |
Zeus posted...
Pretty sure they'd be obligated to clean for countless other reasons. It's not like they just repealed every environmental act on the books or something. It's still one less source of income to help out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Krazy_Kirby 12/28/17 4:28:56 AM #29: |
Metal_Mario99 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...Metal_Mario99 posted...Lokarin posted...Protip: Accidents aren't criminal. but they deliberately drove drunk, so it wasnt an accident --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cold_Dreamerz 12/28/17 2:04:47 PM #30: |
....is he just reversing all of Obamas shit out of spite or something? First the shooting hibernating bears bullshit, and now this.
Honestly whats the point? --- ugh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/28/17 2:06:03 PM #31: |
Cold_Dreamerz posted...
....is he just reversing all of Obamas shit out of spite or something? Pretty much, yeah. That's the inherent quirk of a two party system: the initial course of action is to undo everything the other guys did. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WastelandCowboy 12/28/17 3:18:04 PM #32: |
Cold_Dreamerz posted...
....is he just reversing all of Obamas shit out of spite or something? First the shooting hibernating bears bullshit, and now this. Reportedly, it's because Obama mocked Trump at the 2011 White House Correspondents Dinners. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kyuubi4269 12/28/17 4:25:57 PM #33: |
Hop103 posted...
Ok, if that's the case, then help me solve my energy woes by letting people have wind turbines in their yard in city limits. Noise pollution and being an eyesore are the arguments against that, not birbs. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smarkil 12/28/17 5:26:16 PM #34: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
Cold_Dreamerz posted.......is he just reversing all of Obamas shit out of spite or something? First the shooting hibernating bears bullshit, and now this. Thanks Obama --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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