Poll of the Day > Planned Christmas attack on San Francisco's Pier 39 thwarted by FBI.

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WastelandCowboy
12/23/17 10:58:06 AM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/23/573120846/fbi-calif-man-planned-christmas-attack-on-san-franciscos-pier-39

A tow truck driver from Modesto, Calif., is in custody and charged with attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization.

The FBI says Everitt Jameson, 26, told an undercover agent, who he believed to be with the Islamic State, that he wanted to conduct a violent attack on the popular San Francisco tourist spot Pier 39.

Alex Emslie of member station KQED reports for our Newscast unit:

"According to a special agent's affidavit filed in federal court Friday, Jameson got the FBI's attention by liking and loving pro-ISIS Facebook posts. Undercover agents posing as ISIS operatives contacted him asking him how they could help.

"Jameson allegedly said he'd like to use explosives and assault weapons to attack people near San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf, and Christmas was the perfect day.

"On Monday, Jameson appears to have tried to back out, telling an agent that he'd reconsidered. The FBI searched his Modesto home two days later, recovering guns, ammunition and fireworks as well as a will and written statement about the attack."


Jameson, a former Marine, attended basic recruit training in 2009 and earned a sharpshooter rifle qualification. He was discharged for failing to disclose a history of asthma, the affidavit said.

The Associated Press reports Jameson referred to his military service in comments to undercover agents. "I have been trained in combat and things of war," Jameson told one agent.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions issued a statement praising those involved in the investigation:

"Our incredible law enforcement officers have once again helped thwart an alleged plot to kill Americans. I want to thank the FBI agents and federal prosecutors and everyone else who helped make this possible. The threat from radical Islamic terrorism is realand it is seriousbut the American people can be assured that the Department of Justice remains vigilant in protecting our homeland."


The Merced Sun-Star reports that Jameson showed no emotion in court, but appeared to be listening intently to the proceedings.

"Jameson's attorney Eric Kersten, a federal public defender, said after the hearing that his client denied the allegation in a federal complaint accusing him of one count of violating the federal law making it illegal to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization. He will enter a plea at another court date, he said.

"Magistrate Barbara McAuliffe set a date of Dec. 28 for a detention hearing to discuss the condition of release. She also set a preliminary hearing for Jan. 5, but that's considered a formality because it is expected that an indictment will be issued by then, Kersten said."


If convicted, Jameson faces a maximum statutory penalty of 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine.
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BADoglick
12/23/17 2:10:09 PM
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FBI foils FBI terror plot!

They're literally on the first N of the Dennis system, by nurturing the average US citizen's dependence on a big brother surveillance state.
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Zeus
12/23/17 2:28:55 PM
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I half-wonder how real the threat was and how much the person was enticed by the agents pretending to be ISIS. Doubly so since he had fireworks rather than real explosives and "guns" can refer to anything, even just pistols; which is before you get to him trying to back out.
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Muscles
12/23/17 2:45:57 PM
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Whenever I see a story of the government stopping an attack I never believe it, the government is far too incompetent to actually do that, it's just to make people believe they were saved
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Mead
12/23/17 2:49:12 PM
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Muscles posted...
Whenever I see a story of the government stopping an attack I never believe it, the government is far too incompetent to actually do that, it's just to make people believe they were saved


And all the successful attacks must be staged right?
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Muscles
12/23/17 2:52:08 PM
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Mead posted...
Muscles posted...
Whenever I see a story of the government stopping an attack I never believe it, the government is far too incompetent to actually do that, it's just to make people believe they were saved


And all the successful attacks must be staged right?

How did you get that from my post? The us government is too incompetent to stop a terrorist attack
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BADoglick
12/23/17 2:59:49 PM
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Muscles posted...
Mead posted...
Muscles posted...
Whenever I see a story of the government stopping an attack I never believe it, the government is far too incompetent to actually do that, it's just to make people believe they were saved


And all the successful attacks must be staged right?

How did you get that from my post? The us government is too incompetent to stop a terrorist attack


Exactly, let alone stage one. That's my biggest problem with 9 11 conspiracies. It presumes government competency, which has never really been demonstrated elsewhere. However I fully agree they exploit tragedy to infringe upon rights, and that they fake these heroic preventions. There's no way to disprove them.
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RoboXgp89
12/23/17 3:15:12 PM
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Mead
12/23/17 3:21:12 PM
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Now what is more likely

That sometimes government agencies find and apprehend criminals

Or that these same agencies that are allegedly too incompetent to catch criminals are somehow competent enough to create a ruse of elaborate and intricate scope and theyre able to keep a lid on the lie without the public catching wind of it, all for ambiguous and poorly defined reasons.

People dont feel safe when they hear a terror attack has been stopped, they feel safe when time goes by without hearing about one planned at all.

I swear the nonsense people believe nowadays
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RoboXgp89
12/23/17 3:58:15 PM
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they get paid to lie to people
that's a sin in the bible

I wouldn't be proud to get paid that way
it's a slippery slope and it's why the CIA has primarily functioned as a narco terrorist organization since the 1940's
"we want to get more vicious" - CIA 2017

have you ever seen donnie brasco? they buy the guys a party boat and all sorts of cocaine lol
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WhiskeyDisk
12/23/17 4:09:16 PM
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Just like the Newburgh Sting. Agents entice a borderline simpleton that had no means to carry out an attack into planning something and then bust them after providing the simpleton everything they needed to make a case out if it.
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Mead
12/23/17 5:16:03 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
they get paid to lie to people
that's a sin in the bible


Please elaborate.
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Cacciato
12/23/17 5:20:01 PM
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Mead posted...
RoboXgp89 posted...
they get paid to lie to people
that's a sin in the bible


Please elaborate.

Lmao. You read my mind.
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Cacciato
12/23/17 5:21:44 PM
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OhhhJa
12/23/17 5:38:45 PM
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Muscles posted...
Mead posted...
Muscles posted...
Whenever I see a story of the government stopping an attack I never believe it, the government is far too incompetent to actually do that, it's just to make people believe they were saved


And all the successful attacks must be staged right?

How did you get that from my post? The us government is too incompetent to stop a terrorist attack

Bruh just stop posting about politics
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JixHedgehog
12/23/17 6:16:06 PM
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I live in Mo'town and drive past the guys house almost daily.....
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Lokarin
12/23/17 6:21:00 PM
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Oh c'mon... who DOESN'T say they want to run over tourists when they're hanging out with friends?
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magemaximus
12/23/17 6:34:16 PM
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god bless and happy holidays everyone!
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Smarkil
12/23/17 6:39:45 PM
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Mead posted...
Now what is more likely

That sometimes government agencies find and apprehend criminals

Or that these same agencies that are allegedly too incompetent to catch criminals are somehow competent enough to create a ruse of elaborate and intricate scope and theyre able to keep a lid on the lie without the public catching wind of it, all for ambiguous and poorly defined reasons.

People dont feel safe when they hear a terror attack has been stopped, they feel safe when time goes by without hearing about one planned at all.

I swear the nonsense people believe nowadays


Or that the average criminal is somehow smarter than 35,000 FBI agents.
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ImCallingYouOut
12/23/17 6:41:23 PM
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Close this topic TC.
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Yellow
12/23/17 7:01:16 PM
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The government might suck, but saying the FBI isn't good at their job is a whole different claim.
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streamofthesky
12/24/17 1:31:32 AM
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Not sure if he's really a terrorist or was overly set up by the FBI after apparently wanting to back out, but..
WastelandCowboy posted...
Jameson, a former Marine, attended basic recruit training in 2009 and earned a sharpshooter rifle qualification. He was discharged for failing to disclose a history of asthma, the affidavit said.

Seriously, that's such bull shit.
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Cacciato
12/24/17 4:37:17 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Seriously, that's such bull shit.

What is
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streamofthesky
12/24/17 9:44:01 AM
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Cacciato posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Seriously, that's such bull shit.

What is

Getting kicked out for asthma.
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Mead
12/24/17 9:50:16 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Cacciato posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Seriously, that's such bull shit.

What is

Getting kicked out for asthma.


He was discharged for failing to disclose it, not for having it.
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streamofthesky
12/24/17 10:01:28 AM
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Mead posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Cacciato posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Seriously, that's such bull shit.

What is

Getting kicked out for asthma.


He was discharged for failing to disclose it, not for having it.

If he had disclosed it, he probably never would've even gotten in. Military treats asthma like an instant disqualification and makes exceptions only when they really need the recruits.
Ultimately, he wasn't allowed in b/c of asthma.
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Mead
12/24/17 10:04:13 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Mead posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Cacciato posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Seriously, that's such bull shit.

What is

Getting kicked out for asthma.


He was discharged for failing to disclose it, not for having it.

If he had disclosed it, he probably never would've even gotten in. Military treats asthma like an instant disqualification and makes exceptions only when they really need the recruits.
Ultimately, he wasn't allowed in b/c of asthma.


Which may be appropriate for a marine

It isnt fair but that is a role where other people will likely be depending on him with their lives
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