Board 8 > **Save My Survivor III** PLAY-INS Day 1, Groups 1-4

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RULES
.Each match is open for 24 hours. Even if I don't get to close the topic exactly at 24 hours, all votes made after the 24 hour mark will not be counted.
.If you vote during the first 12 hours of the match, you get +4, +3, +2, and +1 in each group. If you vote in the latter 12 hours, you get +3, +2, and +1 in each group. If you desire, you are allowed to split this (ie vote in Matches 1 and 2 early and Matches 3 and 4 later)
.The top 4 vote-getters in each match will be entered into Save My Survivor III.
.No editing or deleting posts, and no changing your vote. If you made a mistake, you have 5 minutes to post a corrected ballot in a new post, noting that it is a corrected ballot.
.If you cast an illegal ballot (voted for too many people, it's unclear who you are voting for, etc), you have until the end of the match to submit a corrected ballot, but note that normal rules still apply for a corrected ballot (so if you originally submitted in the first 12 hours but submit your corrected ballot in the second 12 hours, you now only get to +3, +2, and +1). Peridiam or I will try to spot illegal ballots and PM you with enough time to fix it, but this is a courtesy and not a guarantee.
.No alts/cheating/you know the drill
.Community rule is most definitely in play for the entirety of this contest.

GROUP 1
Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
John Fincher (Samoa)
Brady Finta (Vanuatu)
Tyler Fredrickson (Worlds Apart)
Kel Gleason (Australia)
Liliana Gomez (Fiji)
Ben "Benry" Henry (Nicaragua)
Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)
Dolly Neely (Vanuatu)
James "Rocky" Reid (Fiji)

GROUP 2
Jill Behm (Nicaragua)
Alex Bell (Amazon)
Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
Jane Bright (Nicaragua)
Greg Buis (Borneo)
James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
Jeanne Hebert (Amazon)
Jessica Johnston (Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers)
Edna Ma (South Pacific)
Jamie Newton (Guatemala)

GROUP 3
Mike Borassi (Samoa)
Marisa Calihan (Samoa)
Nicole Delma (Pearl Islands)
Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)
Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
Nina Poersch (Worlds Apart)
Michelle Schubert (Millennials vs. Gen X)
Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong/Game Changers)
Shannon "Shambo" Waters (Samoa)

GROUP 4
Peter Baggenstos (Kaoh Rong)
Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
Christina Cha (One World)
Michelle Chase (Gabon)
Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
Denise Martin (China)
Chase Rice (Nicaragua)
James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)
Carter Williams (Philippines)
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GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell
+3 James "Rocky" Reid
+2 Joe Del Campo
+1 John Fincher

GROUP 2
+4 James Clement
+3 Greg Buis
+2 Jessica Johnston
+1 Michaela Bradshaw

GROUP 3
+4 Debbie Wanner
+3 Shannon "Shambo" Waters
+2 Marisa Calihan
+1 Nicole Delma

GROUP 4
+4 Tom Buchanan
+3 Stephenie LaGrossa
+2 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr.
+1 Malcolm Freberg
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Group 1:
+4 Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)
+3 Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
+2 Liliana Gomez (Fiji)
+1 Tyler Fredrickson (Worlds Apart)

Group 2:
+4 Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
+3 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
+2 Greg Buis (Borneo)
+1 Jessica Johnston (Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers)

Group 3:
+4 Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
+3 Michelle Schubert (Millennials vs. Gen X)
+2 Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong/Game Changers)
+1 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)

Group 4:
+4 Chase Rice (Nicaragua)
+3 Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
+2 Carter Williams (Philippines)
+1 Peter Baggenstos (Kaoh Rong)
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Yeah, this random selection thing is kinda crap. There's not a single person I want to advance from group 1, and upwards of eight from group 2.
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I kind of like it for that reason though, it means we'll have r.obbed g.oddesses to whine over and crazy underdog stories which make the early rounds more interesting
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Inviso posted...

Yeah, this random selection thing is kinda crap. There's not a single person I want to advance from group 1, and upwards of eight from group 2.

i was gonna say the same thing but not quite that extreme. 1 vs 6.
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GROUP 1
+4 Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
+3 Liliana Gomez (Fiji)
+2 Brady Finta (Vanuatu)
+1 Dolly Neely (Vanuatu)

GROUP 2
+4 Jane Bright (Nicaragua)
+3 Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
+2 Jamie Newton (Guatemala)
+1 Edna Ma (South Pacific)

GROUP 3
+4 Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
+3 Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong/Game Changers)
+2 Marisa Calihan (Samoa)
+1 Nicole Delma (Pearl Islands)

GROUP 4
+4 Chase Rice (Nicaragua)
+3 Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
+2 Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
+1 Michelle Chase (Gabon)
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Group 1:
+4 Erinn Lobdell
+3 Joe Del Campo
+2 Tyler Frederickson
+1 Ben "Benry Henry

Group 2:
+4 Greg Buis
+3 James Clement
+2 Michaela Bradshaw
+1 Jill Behm

Group 3:
+4 Debbie Wanner
+3 Cydney Gillon
+2 Shannon "Shambo" Waters
+1 Jenna Morasca

Group 4:
+4 Tom Buchanan
+3 Malcolm Freberg
+2 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr.
+1 Carter Williams
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Group one sucks. Can I vote for three people from Group 2 instead?

GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell
+3 John Fincher
+2 Joe Del Campo
+1 Liliana Gomez

GROUP 2
+4 Michaela Bradshaw
+3 Greg Buis
+2 James Clement
+1 Jessica Johnston

GROUP 3
+4 Danielle DiLorenzo
+3 Cydney Gillon
+2 Debbie Wanner
+1 Marisa Calihan

GROUP 4
+4 Malcolm Freberg
+3 Tom Buchanan
+2 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr.
+1 Christina Cha
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GROUP 1 - The "Can I Just Give All My Votes to Erinn" Group
+4 Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)
+3 John Fincher (Samoa)
+2 Ben "Benry" Henry (Nicaragua)
+1 Tyler Fredrickson (Worlds Apart)

GROUP 2 - The "Coconut Phone" Group
+4 Greg Buis (Borneo)
+3 Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
+2 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
+1 Jessica Johnston (Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers)

GROUP 3 - The "Cydney is Super Underrated!!" Group
+4 Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
+3 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
+2 Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong/Game Changers)
+1 Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)

GROUP 4 - The "Can't Resist Star Power" Group
+4 Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
+3 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)
+2 Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
+1 Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
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Inviso posted...

Yeah, this random selection thing is kinda crap. There's not a single person I want to advance from group 1

:( Erinn is our great underrated narrator heroine from Tocantins! She was an awesome foil to Coach's insanity!
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oh hell yea

GROUP 1
+4 James "Rocky" Reid (Fiji)
+3 Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
+2 Kel Gleason (Australia)
+1 Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)

GROUP 2
+4 Jane Bright (Nicaragua)
+3 Greg Buis (Borneo)
+2 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
+1 Jessica Johnston (Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers)

GROUP 3
+4 Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
+3 Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)
+2 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
+1 Shannon "Shambo" Waters (Samoa)

GROUP 4
+4 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)
+3 Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
+2 Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
+1 Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
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wait where did this come from? there's no previous topic. were they all just really randomized? no seeding?

would a vote with less than 4 people for a group fall under illegal vote? i have to vote for four every time?

kateee posted...

wait where did this come from? there's no previous topic. were they all just really randomized? no seeding?

It was randomized.

kateee posted...

would a vote with less than 4 people for a group fall under illegal vote? i have to vote for four every time?

You could wait 12 hours and only vote for three.
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ok i guess i'll just copy other people for some of these.

GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)
+3 Dolly Neely (Vanuatu)
+2 Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
+1 Liliana Gomez (Fiji)

GROUP 2
+4 Jane Bright (Nicaragua)
+3 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
+2 Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
+1 Greg Buis (Borneo)

GROUP 3
+4 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
+3 Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)
+2 Marisa Calihan (Samoa)
+1 Debbie Wanner (Kaoh Rong/Game Changers)

GROUP 4
+4 Michelle Chase (Gabon)
+3 Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
+2 Carter Williams (Philippines)
+1 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)

GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell
+3 Joe Del Campo
+2 Kel Gleason
+1 John Fincher

GROUP 2
+4 James Clement
+3 Michaela Bradshaw
+2 Greg Buis
+1 Jane Bright

GROUP 3
+4 Debbie Wanner
+3 Danielle DiLorenzo
+2 Jenna Morasca
+1 Cydney Gillon

GROUP 4
+4 Tom Buchanan
+3 Stephenie LaGrossa
+2 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr.
+1 Malcolm Freberg
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Less than an hour left tp get a four-vote ballot in!
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I still wanna know if my Group 1 votes can be Erinn + three from Group 2.
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GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell
+3 Kel Gleason
+2 Liliana Gomez
+1 Joe Del Campo

GROUP 2
+4 Greg Buis
+3 Jamie Newton
+2 Edna ma
+1 Michaela Bradshaw

GROUP 3
+4 Debbie Wanner
+3 Cydney Gillon
+2 Marisa Calihan
+1 Danielle DiLorenzo

GROUP 4
+4 Stephenie LaGrossa
+3 Michelle Chase
+2 Tom Buchanan
+1 Malcolm Freberg
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I don't really understand why I can only get full votes in the first 12 hours, that doesn't seem to make any real sense. The formatting of this in general seems kind of ill-conceived.

GROUP 1
+4 Erinn Lobdell (Tocantins)
+3 John Fincher (Samoa)
+2 Joe Del Campo (Kaoh Rong)
+1 Tyler Fredrickson (Worlds Apart)

GROUP 2
+4 Michaela Bradshaw (Millennials vs. Gen X/Game Changers)
+2 Greg Buis (Borneo)
+3 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
+1 Jill Behm (Nicaragua)

GROUP 3
+4 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
+3 Cydney Gillon (Kaoh Rong)
+2 Michelle Schubert (Millennials vs. Gen X)
+1 Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)

GROUP 4
+4 Malcolm Freberg (Philippines/Caramoan/Game Changers)
+3 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)
+2 Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
+1 Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
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+4 Erinn
+3 Rocky
+2 Benry
+1 Fincher

+4 Michaela
+3 Greg
+2 James
+1 Jessica

+4 Cydney
+3 Michelle
+2 Debbie
+1 Jenna

+4 Malcolm
+3 JT
+2 Carter
+1 Tom
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darkx, could you provide an "easy ballot format" at the start of each round? So we get:

"GROUP 1
+4
+3
+2
+1"

etc.
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Okay, other formatting ideas:
1. Rank all newbie castaways from a season. Top 5 from each season are entered.
2. Rank all newbie castaways from each starting tribe (except Exile Island, which would be Day 4 tribe with Timber Tina on La Mina, and Cook Islands which would have Sekou on post-swap Raro and Billy on Aitu [since Billy started on Aitu]). Top 6 from each season advance - top two from 6-person tribes, top three from each tribe on two-tribe seasons.
3. Continue this format, but add 2-3 additional wild card groups of Survivors that got the highest percentage of points of those did not advance.

IDK, just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if anything sticks.

I also think the "you only get four votes if you vote early" thing can go. I get that it's done to encourage people to vote early over waiting to reflect their vote based on how other people are voting, but on a half-day schedule that's not exactly doable for everyone.
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Peridiam posted...

darkx, could you provide an "easy ballot format" at the start of each round? So we get:

"GROUP 1
+4
+3
+2
+1"

etc.

I'll do this.

As far as other changes go, Naomi and I conferred on the rules and groups a while back. He agreed on my reasoning for the rules as they stand and while the groups are far from perfectly balanced there was nothing that jumped out at us that made us feel the need to re-roll or change the format.
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Up
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please no trading

GROUP 2
+1 Jill Behm (Nicaragua)
+2 Greg Buis (Borneo)
+3 James Clement (China/Micronesia/Heroes vs. Villains)
Jeanne Hebert (Amazon)

GROUP 3
+2 Danielle DiLorenzo (Exile Island/Heroes vs. Villains)
+3 Jenna Morasca (Amazon/All-Stars)
+1 Shannon "Shambo" Waters (Samoa)

GROUP 4
+3 Tom Buchanan (Africa/All-Stars)
+2 Stephenie LaGrossa (Palau/Guatemala/Heroes vs. Villains)
+1 James "J.T." Thomas, Jr. (Tocantins/Heroes vs. Villains/Game Changers)
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Up
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Just under an hour left
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