Poll of the Day > I hope nobody ever complains about the Star Wars prequels ever again (spoilers)

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Holy shit, 70% of TLJ is AGONIZING. Wtf were those writers thinking?
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Fin and Rose were pointless, and Holdo had several opportunities to save everyone but didn't, plus how did the thief know about the cloaked ships?
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Haven't seen TLF yet. That said, why would people stop complaining about the prequels? Subsequent bad movies do not make previous bad movies better.
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KogaSteelfang posted...

Fin and Rose were pointless, and Holdo had several opportunities to save everyone but didn't, plus how did the thief know about the cloaked ships?

Finn and rose pretty much made things worse for everyone. EVERYTHING they did ended in failure.
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Thought your sjw ass would love it

It was all that purple haired feminists fault. If that bitch would have just told dude the plan we could have skipped that 40+ minute side quest that ended up killing most of the resistance.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Thought your sjw ass would love it

It was all that purple haired feminists fault. If that bitch would have just told dude the plan we could have skipped that 40+ minute side quest that ended up killing most of the resistance.

Yeah, that was really fucking stupid

But Poe wasn't any better leading all those people to their deaths at the beginning. And he still only learned his lesson at the last second at the end and Finn STILL didn't fucking pay attention to that
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That's because men are stupid and evil

Did you learn nothing from this movie?
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darkknight109 posted...

Haven't seen TLF yet. That said, why would people stop complaining about the prequels? Subsequent bad movies do not make previous bad movies better.

Because they're worse. And nobody has seen TLF yet because that's not a thing =p
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Why tf does Star Wars even have klingon cloaking tech now
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The Last Jedi being terrible doesn't make the prequels more acceptable.

Although I admit if I had to choose between which movies I'd watch again I'd gladly watch one of the prequels again over The Last Jedi.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

That's because men are stupid and evil

Did you learn nothing from this movie?

Where did you get that from?

You talk about liberals being triggered all the time, but your type always complain about men getting turned into the villain whenever they're not at the forefront of every possible thing.

There were, like, 3 main bad guys. Kylo Ren, Snoke, and Phasma. And one of them was female.

Are you talking about Poe being told he was wrong by women? Because he was. A ton of people died for no real reason because of him.
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I can't even with you people.

I can't even.
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Oh please did you even watch the movie?

Women are never wrong, all knowing gods.

Men are stupid, ignorant, wanna be heroes that can't do anything right.

That entire thing could have been avoided if the purple haired feminist just told dude the plan. There was a fucking mutiny over it.
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PK_Spam posted...

KogaSteelfang posted...

Fin and Rose were pointless, and Holdo had several opportunities to save everyone but didn't, plus how did the thief know about the cloaked ships?

Finn and rose pretty much made things worse for everyone. EVERYTHING they did ended in failure.

Uh sorry honey but did you forget Finn killed the worst villain in SW history with the worst clever line in SW history? Check yourself.
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I dont disagree with the fact that purple hair was dumb for not just telling people what she was doing, but Leia and Purple Hair were right all of the time because they're both significantly older than Poe and Finn, so of course they're gonna shake their heads when Poe thinks being rash is gonna save the universe.

They weren't saying that Poe was never right, they were guiding him along, and if they were men doing that instead of women, I would bet my bottom dollar that you wouldn't have any problem with that because you'd see it as a "passing of the torch" moment.
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I'm not saying you're threatened by women teaching men valuable lessons but...

You have a problem with women being mentors for younger men.
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the new movies are better than the prequels. I loved The Last Jedi

Anyone that thinks that Attack of the Clones or The Phantom Menace are superior to this film have their head firmly lodged up their ass. A few scenes in this movie are pretty bad but those two movies above have like 95% crap and 5% good stuff at best.

Shit The Phantom Menace is almost entirely either stupid kid stuff like Jar Jar or Pod Racing and the rest is long debates and other random scenes that are boring as fuck.
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PK_Spam posted...

I'm not saying you're threatened by women teaching men valuable lessons but...

You have a problem with women being mentors for younger men.

No, I have a problem with every woman being infallible and every man being a drooling ape.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

PK_Spam posted...

I'm not saying you're threatened by women teaching men valuable lessons but...

You have a problem with women being mentors for younger men.

No, I have a problem with every woman being infallible and every man being a drooling ape.

Luke saved the day at the end there if it wasn't for his actions they would have went in and slaughtered everyone else.
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How is every women infallible? Rey made a stupid mistake in going to meet Kylo. Leia was useless. Purple Hair made an admittedly stupid mistake in not just telling people what she was doing, to the point where half the ship mutinied on her
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PK_Spam posted...

I dont disagree with the fact that purple hair was dumb for not just telling people what she was doing, but Leia and Purple Hair were right all of the time because they're both significantly older than Poe and Finn, so of course they're gonna shake their heads when Poe thinks being rash is gonna save the universe.

They weren't saying that Poe was never right, they were guiding him along, and if they were men doing that instead of women, I would bet my bottom dollar that you wouldn't have any problem with that because you'd see it as a "passing of the torch" moment.

Also Poe is an impulsive character just like Han shit its made blatantly clear that Poe is the best pilot they have by a fucking landslide. Just because the guys is reckless and brash doesn't make him useless. Not to mention Poe learns his lesson by the end of the film and tells everyone to back off from trying to blow up the giant laser that Kylo was going to use to blow up the blast shield.
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It's actually just Ghostbusters 2016 again with critics and big media outlets defending TLJ and claiming people who dislike it are racists, and claiming the audience reviews are "wrong" because they've "obviously" been manipulated by 4Chan or something, when you almost can't go anywhere and talk about TLJ without people complaining about the movie.

How can you claim to deserve any kind of writing position when you can't see the very obvious plot issues and nonsensical decisions made in TLJ? You can enjoy TLJ despite the problems, but these critics would have you believe these massive problems don't exist or are irrelevant, because of what? The CGI? The racial diversity? If that was enough for most people to think a Star Wars movie was good the prequels would be lauded over.
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The difference is that Han didn't routinely lead his fellow pilots on missions where only a fraction make it out alive. Poe does this shit REPEATEDLY to the point where Leia was freaking out because they barely had anyone left in the rebellion by the end
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Leia should have simply rammed into Poe at light speed.
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Gross
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I know you like the prequels and that makes you an odd human being, but you don't have to hate the new movies in order to boost the prequels.

It's really not. Sure, it had some issues, but those issues have been really blown out of proportion.
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Honestly, Empire Strikes Back is the only objectively great entry in the entire series. Every other one has had problems. ANH has the convenient and easy (and now retconned) Death Star victory, RotJ's ending was even worse because of the Ewok bullshit. The prequel trilogy was cheesy and it wouldn't surprise me if it became non-canon and got replaced eventually. Now it just seems like Disney has no idea what it's doing... I'm hoping that once they start fresh(ish) after IX that they make something good that's their own rather than continue down this road.
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The director of TLJ is supposed to be put in charge of his own trilogy. No idea how good that will be, but at least the films should be coherent with one another.
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Posting this here too, an article I strongly agree with (spoilers warning)

https://kotaku.com/lets-talk-about-the-weirdest-and-best-scene-in-the-la-1821376910

The non spoiler essence is that TLJ brought back the whimsy and unique slices of the galaxy that Star Wars introduced with A New Hope. There was so much awesome novel weird shit with appropriate throwbacks. It wasn't just the same story told again in a new setting. It wasn't the legacy movie that TFA was. It went away from the norms. And that series really needed it.

I'm actually tempted to go out and watch it again. It was so much movie and my attention span sucks. But it was highly enjoyable. I bet it's even better on a re-watch. I'll watch TFA again first though
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They're equally horrible in their own ways, but I'd gladly watch the prequels again over this because:

-They didn't feel full of fan service; they were trying to be their own thing
-They were telling a story that was actually intended to be told, these new movies just feel forced, Rogue One included (the biggest snore fest of them all)

Doctor Foxx posted...

Posting this here too, an article I strongly agree with (spoilers warning)

https://kotaku.com/lets-talk-about-the-weirdest-and-best-scene-in-the-la-1821376910

The non spoiler essence is that TLJ brought back the whimsy and unique slices of the galaxy that Star Wars introduced with A New Hope. There was so much awesome novel weird shit with appropriate throwbacks. It wasn't just the same story told again in a new setting. It wasn't the legacy movie that TFA was. It went away from the norms. And that series really needed it.

I'm actually tempted to go out and watch it again. It was so much movie and my attention span sucks. But it was highly enjoyable. I bet it's even better on a re-watch. I'll watch TFA again first though

Uh, Star Wars isn't Star Wars as we know it today because it's weird. Star Wars is Star Wars as we know it today because it had memorable characters that had believable intentions and didn't do stupid things like not tell their crew about a seemingly suicidal plan, which caused a mutiny, which could've been easily averted by simply saying what the damn plan was.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Posting this here too, an article I strongly agree with (spoilers warning)

https://kotaku.com/lets-talk-about-the-weirdest-and-best-scene-in-the-la-1821376910

The non spoiler essence is that TLJ brought back the whimsy and unique slices of the galaxy that Star Wars introduced with A New Hope. There was so much awesome novel weird shit with appropriate throwbacks. It wasn't just the same story told again in a new setting. It wasn't the legacy movie that TFA was. It went away from the norms. And that series really needed it.

I'm actually tempted to go out and watch it again. It was so much movie and my attention span sucks. But it was highly enjoyable. I bet it's even better on a re-watch. I'll watch TFA again first though

Lets talk about the moment where Luke Skywalker walked purposefully towards a gigantic fish/elephant/cow looking alien, squeezed a half litre of green, full fat milk from its engorged teat and gulped that strange liquid down with the gusto of a man satisfying a well-earned thirst.

Lets talk about that. Because it was awesome.

That scene was fucking stupid and made me roll my eyes. Especially the way the thing looked at Rey like "oh hey want some"

Just one of the many cheap cgi "silly so it's cute and funny" moments.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Especially the way the thing looked at Rey like "oh hey want some"

Just one of the many cheap cgi "silly so it's cute and funny" moments.

Yes, the humor in general was so bad in this. Nice try on the Kotaku article trying to force that the movie was good though. They should hire the author to write the next one, he'll fit right in.
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ForteXX posted...

Uh, Star Wars isn't Star Wars as we know it today because it's weird. Star Wars is Star Wars as we know it today because it had memorable characters that had believable intentions

And people gave it a chance with A New Hope in large part because of the unique setting (and excellent effects). It was an easily accessible sci Fi blockbuster unlike anything else. Without that initial interest it wouldn't have gone where it did. If Star Wars was just normal humans in space it would have been boring af. Star Wars brought so much more than that and laid out out on the table in big portions with ANH. That characters didn't gain near the same depth until the following movies.

The OT is not without its flaws either. Not all of the behavior was sensible. There are plot holes. There's deus ex machina. OT is still an enjoyable watch.
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Just one of the many cheap cgi "silly so it's cute and funny" moments.

It was pretty nasty looking that entire scene and in no way cute tbh but then Luke's face as he drank his green milk was good stuff and sold that scene
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Doctor Foxx posted...

And people gave it a chance with A New Hope in large part because of the unique setting (and excellent effects). It was an easily accessible sci Fi blockbuster unlike anything else. Without that initial interest it wouldn't have gone where it did. If Star Wars was just normal humans in space it would have been boring af. Star Wars brought so much more than that and laid out out on the table in big portions with ANH. That characters didn't gain near the same depth until the following movies.

Yes, it helped, but it wasn't good and hasn't stood the test of time because it was weird. Lots of crap is weird. Nor did I say the characters had depth. They were simply characters being put in a situation and they had to deal with that situation, and the way the reacted to things weren't all that different than how we'd react. There weren't these awful, forced, unbelievable plot points like whatever her name was withholding information for no logical reason, simply because the writers needed a forced way for Finn to be part of the story and find a love interest. That's not a believable character.

Doctor Foxx posted...

The OT is not without its flaws either. Not all of the behavior was sensible. There are plot holes. There's deus ex machina. OT is still an enjoyable watch.

Of course it's not flawless. But it's not blatantly stupid like this movie was. I keep going back to this, but it's so blatant: Why withhold information when it's causing a freaking mutiny and putting the plan to save people in jeopardy? Just tell them the damn plan or you're all going to die! There was no reason to withhold it at all.

Not to mention the anime-filler-episode esque portion of Finn and LoveInterestGirl going to the casino planet. Sure, there were filler type portions in ESB but they didn't take up a huge portion of the movie and act like a huge plot point. This casino thing was long and acted like it was some huge important part of the movie that ended up leading to nothing but a lame, emotionless battle between Finn and Phasma that no one cares about because we know next to nothing about Phasma and Finn's past at all and it was over in a couple minutes and had no satisfying conclusion.

I could go on and on about how stupid this movie is, but why should I? People will just come in and make dumb excuses about why it's good like strange colored milk and how awesome it is, completely forgetting what made the originals such masterful movies in the first place.

Doctor Foxx posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Just one of the many cheap cgi "silly so it's cute and funny" moments.

It was pretty nasty looking that entire scene and in no way cute tbh but then Luke's face as he drank his green milk was good stuff and sold that scene

It was a cringey and forced attempt at humor. It did nothing for Luke's character.
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Mead posted...

Why tf does Star Wars even have klingon cloaking tech now

It has been canon since The Empire Strikes Back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_KIKwMN1w
They can't have disappeared. No ship that small has a cloaking device!
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I mean TLJ was disappointing, but it's nowhere near as bad as any of the prequels.