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DepreceV2 12/18/17 2:10:58 PM #1:	Nation Anthem? Really? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/power-kneeling-kennesaw-state-cheerleaders-revealed-presidents-resignation-224610819.html This is beyond silly. Even if you personally believe he didn't resign because of this... Look at the actions that were taken. The cheerleaders protest, done to call attention to social inequality and police brutality, led to their banishment to the tunnel for ensuing games. Olens claimed the decision was because of a predetermined pregame protocol plan, but Atlanta-area journalists reported that two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays. When the text exchanges emerged into public view, it looked very much as if the school president had covered up the real reason for the pregame change, and effectively suppressed First Amendment rights. REALLY?! Why is this such a big deal?! It's a non violent protest by cheerleaders at a university that isn't even well know! They go through all of that?! I guarantee you they are more offended by this than a guy in the stands at a football game yelling expletives and racist things! That would be more acceptable that a non violent protest?! It's almost like it's more acceptable for blacks to have violent protest that destroy their own communities and businesses than it is to take a knee during the national anthem at any kind of public event! It's stupid as fuck and makes you understand why black people still feel they are discriminated against. --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892446698] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Nation Anthem? Really? https://www.yahoo.com/sports/power-kneeling-kennesaw-state-cheerleaders-revealed-presidents-resignation-224610819.html This is beyond silly. Even if you personally believe he didn't resign because of this... Look at the actions that were taken. <quote>The cheerleaders protest, done to call attention to social inequality and police brutality, led to their banishment to the tunnel for ensuing games. Olens claimed the decision was because of a predetermined pregame protocol plan, but Atlanta-area journalists reported that two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays. When the text exchanges emerged into public view, it looked very much as if the school president had covered up the real reason for the pregame change, and effectively suppressed First Amendment rights.</quote> REALLY?! Why is this such a big deal?! It's a non violent protest by cheerleaders at a university that isn't even well know! They go through all of that?! I guarantee you they are more offended by this than a guy in the stands at a football game yelling expletives and racist things! That would be more acceptable that a non violent protest?! It's almost like it's more acceptable for blacks to have violent protest that destroy their own communities and businesses than it is to take a knee during the national anthem at any kind of public event! It's stupid as fuck and makes you understand why black people still feel they are discriminated against.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/18/17 2:13:15 PM #2:	Another example of colleges being PC indoctrination centers --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:892446831] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Another example of colleges being PC indoctrination centers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 12/18/17 2:14:18 PM #3:	That's just not how the First Amendment works. All the First Amendment guarantees is that the government cannot legally prosecute you for your speech- you're still liable for the reaction to your free speech. --- Professionals are predictable- it's the amateurs who are dangerous. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:892446893] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>That's just not how the First Amendment works. All the First Amendment guarantees is that the government cannot legally prosecute you for your speech- you're still liable for the reaction to your free speech.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/18/17 2:15:11 PM #4:	college Conservatives need a safe space from anthem kneelers. (right guys?) --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:892446943] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>college Conservatives need a safe space from anthem kneelers. (right guys?)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/18/17 2:16:20 PM #5:	r4X0r posted... That's just not how the First Amendment works. All the First Amendment guarantees is that the government cannot legally prosecute you for your speech- you're still liable for the reaction to your free speech. State school, though. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892447002] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>r4X0r posted...</cite> <quote>That's just not how the First Amendment works. All the First Amendment guarantees is that the government cannot legally prosecute you for your speech- you're still liable for the reaction to your free speech.</quote> State school, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/18/17 2:17:18 PM #6:	Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done? --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:892447051] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/18/17 2:19:11 PM #7:	Antifar posted... Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done? the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:892447173] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done?</quote> the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 12/18/17 2:24:24 PM #8:	TheVipaGTS posted... Antifar posted... Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done? the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it. It's also incredible how many of the people that get upset about it are always crying about other being too sensitive. --- https://imgur.com/PHWbltB <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:892447474] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done?</quote> the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it.</quote> It's also incredible how many of the people that get upset about it are always crying about other being too sensitive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 2:50:38 PM #9:	TheVipaGTS posted... Antifar posted... Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done? the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it. It's crazy. That's like hiring someone to do your yard. For some reason you don't believe people that work deserve a break. You catch them taking a 2 minute break. You call the head of this lawn company to tell them about the people he hired taking a 2 minute break and demand action because of it. Really? You look like a complete ass if you do something like that yet it's the norm for people to act similarly. It's dumb --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892448961] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Take away whether this is a violation of the first amendment: is it something that should be done?</quote> the truth is they have the right to kneel and those in power do have the right to replace them, and those who support them, if they don't want to associate with that. No ones rights are being violated here. I just think its silly that so many people are THIS upset about people choosing to silently and non-violently protest in this way. Its incredible how upset people get about it.</quote> It's crazy. That's like hiring someone to do your yard. For some reason you don't believe people that work deserve a break. You catch them taking a 2 minute break. You call the head of this lawn company to tell them about the people he hired taking a 2 minute break and demand action because of it. Really? You look like a complete ass if you do something like that yet it's the norm for people to act similarly. It's dumb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/18/17 3:11:05 PM #10:	Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:892450163] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/18/17 3:14:09 PM #11:	Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892450387] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 12/18/17 3:15:44 PM #12:	DepreceV2 posted... REALLY?! Why is this such a big deal?! It's a non violent protest by cheerleaders at a university that isn't even well know! They go through all of that?! I guarantee you they are more offended by this than a guy in the stands at a football game yelling expletives and racist things! That would be more acceptable that a non violent protest?! DepreceV2 posted... two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays. Georgia. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:892450481] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>REALLY?! Why is this such a big deal?! It's a non violent protest by cheerleaders at a university that isn't even well know! They go through all of that?! I guarantee you they are more offended by this than a guy in the stands at a football game yelling expletives and racist things! That would be more acceptable that a non violent protest?!</quote> <cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays.</quote> Georgia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/18/17 3:26:31 PM #13:	Hexenherz posted... Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone. Reality is problematic for some agendas. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:892451145] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone.</quote> Reality is problematic for some agendas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Illuminoius 12/18/17 3:32:15 PM #14:	i can't even imagine caring about people kneeling for an anthem <cite>Illuminoius posted [p:892451469] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>i can't even imagine caring about people kneeling for an anthem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 3:34:43 PM #15:	Funbazooka posted... Hexenherz posted... Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone. Reality is problematic for some agendas. No one said that it isn't problematic for some. Especially businesses. The fact is that it shouldn't be. Period. Plus, of there is no rule against protesting then why should they get punished for it regardless if it's problematic or not? --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892451589] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Kneeling for the national anthem at a sports event should not be controversial or offensive to anyone.</quote> Reality is problematic for some agendas.</quote> No one said that it isn't problematic for some. Especially businesses. The fact is that it shouldn't be. Period. Plus, of there is no rule against protesting then why should they get punished for it regardless if it's problematic or not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funbazooka 12/18/17 3:40:53 PM #16:	All you're really saying is that people shouldn't disagree with something and that everyone should abide. That's not a fact of any sort. That's a personal wish. --- I'll defend any man's Funbazooka! <cite>Funbazooka posted [p:892451937] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>All you're really saying is that people shouldn't disagree with something and that everyone should abide. That's not a fact of any sort. That's a personal wish.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/18/17 3:45:09 PM #17:	Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892452178] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 12/18/17 3:48:02 PM #18:	Atlanta-area journalists reported that two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays. When the text exchanges emerged into public view, it looked very much as if the school president had covered up the real reason for the pregame change, and effectively suppressed First Amendment rights. If this part's true then yeah, he should be resigning --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:892452348] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><quote>Atlanta-area journalists reported that two high-ranking authority figures, state representative Earl Ehrhart and Cobb County Sheriff Neil Warren, pressured Olens through text messages to put an end to the public displays. When the text exchanges emerged into public view, it looked very much as if the school president had covered up the real reason for the pregame change, and effectively suppressed First Amendment rights.</quote> If this part's true then yeah, he should be resigning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 3:48:21 PM #19:	Funbazooka posted... All you're really saying is that people shouldn't disagree with something and that everyone should abide. That's not a fact of any sort. That's a personal wish. No. I'm saying people shouldn't be so damn offended that it gets to this point. If you don't like the message and disagree with it. That's fine. It's not OK for the state representive and sheriff to try to force disciplinary action because they don't agree with someone else's view point. That's like a catholic high school kicking a kid out of school because he revealed he was an atheist. --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892452364] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>All you're really saying is that people shouldn't disagree with something and that everyone should abide. That's not a fact of any sort. That's a personal wish.</quote> No. I'm saying people shouldn't be so damn offended that it gets to this point. If you don't like the message and disagree with it. That's fine. It's not OK for the state representive and sheriff to try to force disciplinary action because they don't agree with someone else's view point. That's like a catholic high school kicking a kid out of school because he revealed he was an atheist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 12/18/17 3:50:42 PM #20:	A friend said back when the Confederate flag thing flared up after that shooting that they were going to go after the American flag eventually too. I thought he was crazy then but it's starting to look like he might have had a point. --- http://backloggery.com/devsbro/sig.gif http://i.imgur.com/kU5vu5N.png Never pepper popcorn <cite>DevsBro posted [p:892452493] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>A friend said back when the Confederate flag thing flared up after that shooting that they were going to go after the American flag eventually too. I thought he was crazy then but it's starting to look like he might have had a point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Twin3Turbo 12/18/17 3:53:28 PM #21:	The Admiral posted... Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression. I wouldn't be excited about it, no. I also wouldn't cry like a big baby about it either as long as they were doing something as benign as kneeling and not actually interrupting the proceedings. --- https://imgur.com/PHWbltB <cite>Twin3Turbo posted [p:892452664] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression.</quote> I wouldn't be excited about it, no. I also wouldn't cry like a big baby about it either as long as they were doing something as benign as kneeling and not actually interrupting the proceedings.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/18/17 3:53:36 PM #22:	DepreceV2 posted... It's not OK for the state representive and sheriff to try to force disciplinary action because they don't agree with someone else's view point. Fascists trying to repress free speech. What else is new <cite>Axiom posted [p:892452673] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not OK for the state representive and sheriff to try to force disciplinary action because they don't agree with someone else's view point.</quote> Fascists trying to repress free speech. What else is new</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 3:55:18 PM #23:	The Admiral posted... Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression. I would be upset. If it's a non violent protest then there is no need to be so upset about this. Leave it to Admiral to try to spin it and make it a different issue than it is. --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892452785] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression.</quote> I would be upset. If it's a non violent protest then there is no need to be so upset about this. Leave it to Admiral to try to spin it and make it a different issue than it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 12/18/17 3:56:52 PM #24:	The Admiral posted... Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression. Okay sure, then can we stop with the whole idealizing the military and the DoD paying the NFL for advertisement during their games? --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:892452894] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression.</quote> Okay sure, then can we stop with the whole idealizing the military and the DoD paying the NFL for advertisement during their games?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 4:00:07 PM #25:	The Great Muta 22 posted... The Admiral posted... Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression. Okay sure, then can we stop with the whole idealizing the military and the DoD paying the NFL for advertisement during their games? --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892453084] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Great Muta 22 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Football games are not your personal avenue for political expression.</quote> Okay sure, then can we stop with the whole idealizing the military and the DoD paying the NFL for advertisement during their games?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 12/18/17 4:05:01 PM #26:	The Admiral posted... Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. Is there an example of when this took place in sports and liberals did everything they could to silence the protest, including firing the higher-ups? Keep in mind this has to be a non-violent protest that takes place during or before a game, and isn't directed specifically at any person or persons. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:892453350] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Doubt you libs would be so excited about this if the cheerleaders had been banished for doing pro-life or anti-gay marriage demonstrations before the games. </quote> Is there an example of when this took place in sports and liberals did everything they could to silence the protest, including firing the higher-ups? Keep in mind this has to be a non-violent protest that takes place during or before a game, and isn't directed specifically at any person or persons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/18/17 4:05:16 PM #27:	Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:892453361] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 4:09:43 PM #28:	cjsdowg posted... Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that. To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find? --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892453607] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that.</quote> To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 12/18/17 4:15:08 PM #29:	DepreceV2 posted... To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find? 59 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGVZdfcm7qg --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:892453898] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote> To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find?</quote> 59 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGVZdfcm7qg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/18/17 4:18:42 PM #30:	DepreceV2 posted... cjsdowg posted... Funbazooka posted... Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong. Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that. To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find? No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem <cite>Axiom posted [p:892454082] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Funbazooka posted...</cite> <quote>Political protest, especially the kind that is controversial and offensive to large swaths of the country, can get you fired. The cheerleaders represent their university in part and they aren't there to protest. People are not protected under the law from being fired for their politics. He did nothing wrong.</quote> Offensive, funny the people who call this shit offensive are the people who bitch about the world being too PC. The people who are offended literally want black people to stand for a song that is pro slavery. And they are offended when they don't . What type of logic is that.</quote> To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find?</quote> No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 12/18/17 4:20:04 PM #31:	Axiom posted... No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying some slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that? --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:892454164] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote> No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem</quote> This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying some slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 12/18/17 4:22:39 PM #32:	The Admiral posted... This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that? Essentially, says writer and academic Jason Johnson, Francis Scott Key was happy to see former slaves, who had joined the British as part of their Colonial Marines, getting slaughtered and killed as they attempted to take Baltimore. The entire song sort of leads up to this point, Johnson adds, where hes essentially saying to these terrible, ungrateful, black people, this is the consequence of standing up against the United States. So its clearly racist; its clearly pro-slavery, but its pretty much in line with the kind of man that Francis Scott Key was. Key was a typical white Marylander of his time, and he favored slavery. Many historians agree with Johnson, but some disagree. They point out that Key never told anyone what he actually meant, and some historians interpret his mention of hirelings and slaves to reference all of the invading British forces. They say it echoes similar rhetoric used since the Revolutionary War to describe the forces of the king of England, especially those units purchased from German princes. American writers contrasted these miserable hirelings and slaves with the virtuous all-volunteer citizen armies of America. However, Johnson counters that argument. He points out that Key himself faced the black Colonial Marines in battle. His unit was beaten and humiliated by them. His troops were slaughtered so aggressively, Johnson says, that he had to run home and hide in Washington DC. ... So this was personal for him." At best, historians disagree whether the anthem was racist or not. But there's a very good argument that it is. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:892454310] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that?</quote> <quote>Essentially, says writer and academic Jason Johnson, Francis Scott Key was happy to see former slaves, who had joined the British as part of their Colonial Marines, getting slaughtered and killed as they attempted to take Baltimore. The entire song sort of leads up to this point, Johnson adds, where hes essentially saying to these terrible, ungrateful, black people, this is the consequence of standing up against the United States. So its clearly racist; its clearly pro-slavery, but its pretty much in line with the kind of man that Francis Scott Key was. Key was a typical white Marylander of his time, and he favored slavery. Many historians agree with Johnson, but some disagree. They point out that Key never told anyone what he actually meant, and some historians interpret his mention of hirelings and slaves to reference all of the invading British forces. They say it echoes similar rhetoric used since the Revolutionary War to describe the forces of the king of England, especially those units purchased from German princes. American writers contrasted these miserable hirelings and slaves with the virtuous all-volunteer citizen armies of America. However, Johnson counters that argument. He points out that Key himself faced the black Colonial Marines in battle. His unit was beaten and humiliated by them. His troops were slaughtered so aggressively, Johnson says, that he had to run home and hide in Washington DC. ... So this was personal for him."</quote> At best, historians disagree whether the anthem was racist or not. But there's a very good argument that it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/18/17 4:24:16 PM #33:	The Admiral posted... Axiom posted... No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying some slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that? That's only one interpretation. The other is that it pertains to slaves as Francis Scott Key was a slave owner who believed black people were a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community." which is pretty believable considering that <cite>Axiom posted [p:892454407] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote> No refuge could save the hireling and slave From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave, That's a line from the national anthem</quote> This is a reference to the British hiring mercenaries and paying some slaves to fight the Americans. What's racist about that?</quote> That's only one interpretation. The other is that it pertains to slaves as Francis Scott Key was a slave owner who believed black people were a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community." which is pretty believable considering that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/18/17 4:43:11 PM #34:	Imagine not having The Admiral on your ignore list by this point. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892455467] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Imagine not having The Admiral on your ignore list by this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DepreceV2 12/18/17 4:54:09 PM #35:	cjsdowg posted... DepreceV2 posted... To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find? 59 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGVZdfcm7qg 59 minutes? EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics.. --- GT: Deprece (X1) Hunter 32/ Titan 32/ Warlock 32 IB/ GHorn/ Vex/ Faithbringer/ Thunder/ Etc <cite>DepreceV2 posted [p:892456084] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote> To be fair. I'm black and I never even considered the national anthem to be racist. If I do some research on this will I find something I wouldn't want to find?</quote> 59 mins in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGVZdfcm7qg</quote> 59 minutes? EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KhlavicLanguage 12/18/17 4:56:04 PM #36:	The south is a joke. <cite>KhlavicLanguage posted [p:892456185] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>The south is a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/18/17 5:14:25 PM #37:	DepreceV2 posted... EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics.. Nobody knows the other three verses. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:892457232] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics..</quote> Nobody knows the other three verses.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/18/17 5:44:19 PM #38:	People also shouldn't be offended by the original lyrics to the anthem but it's w/e. Let's all get pissed off about dumb things, it's the new American way. --- i dont like signatures <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:892458885] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>People also shouldn't be offended by the original lyrics to the anthem but it's w/e. Let's all get pissed off about dumb things, it's the new American way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/18/17 6:09:49 PM #39:	Questionmarktarius posted... DepreceV2 posted... EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics.. Nobody knows the other three verses. nor are they generally sung during football games --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:892460395] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: Wow... I didn't even know there was more lyrics to the Anthem... I wonder what I'll find if I read ALL the lyrics..</quote> Nobody knows the other three verses.</quote> nor are they generally sung during football games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
That_Happened 12/19/17 9:26:07 AM #40:	Hexenherz posted... People also shouldn't be offended by the original lyrics to the anthem but it's w/e People aren't offended by the lyrics to the anthem until idiot conservatives try to force people to honor the song. At that point people are right to point out the issues with the lyrics. Nobody's offended by "Play that Funky Music White Boy" but if snowflake liberals tried to make people salute the tune, republicans would start crying about racism, too. --- http://fusionanomaly.net/magnoliabutitdidhappen.jpg <cite>That_Happened posted [p:892495884] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>People also shouldn't be offended by the original lyrics to the anthem but it's w/e</quote> People aren't offended by the lyrics to the anthem until idiot conservatives try to force people to honor the song. At that point people are right to point out the issues with the lyrics. Nobody's offended by "Play that Funky Music White Boy" but if snowflake liberals tried to make people salute the tune, republicans would start crying about racism, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nepsy 12/19/17 6:46:56 PM #41:	Hope those cheerleaders are happy. --- GameRaven 3.1.4 http://m.imgur.com/nMk7Yai?r <cite>Nepsy posted [p:892526269] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Hope those cheerleaders are happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FreedomEtrtment 12/21/17 3:38:10 AM #42:	wow <cite>FreedomEtrtment posted [p:892613920] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>wow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 12/21/17 3:44:36 AM #43:	you can't ban free speech in schools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District The court's 72 decision held that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and that administrators would have to demonstrate constitutionally valid reasons for any specific regulation of speech in the classroom. The court observed, "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."[4] Justice Abe Fortas wrote the majority opinion, holding that the speech regulation at issue in Tinker was "based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression, even by the silent symbol of armbands, of opposition to this Nation's part in the conflagration in Vietnam." The Court held that for school officials to justify censoring speech, they "must be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint," that the conduct that would "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school."[5] The Court found that the actions of the Tinkers in wearing armbands did not cause disruption and held that their activity represented constitutionally protected symbolic speech. Edit: I just realized that even though this is a state school, idk how the ruling on a high school thing would apply to college --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:892614083] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>you can't ban free speech in schools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District <quote>The court's 72 decision held that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and that administrators would have to demonstrate constitutionally valid reasons for any specific regulation of speech in the classroom. The court observed, "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."[4] Justice Abe Fortas wrote the majority opinion, holding that the speech regulation at issue in Tinker was "based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression, even by the silent symbol of armbands, of opposition to this Nation's part in the conflagration in Vietnam." The Court held that for school officials to justify censoring speech, they "must be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint," that the conduct that would "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school."[5] The Court found that the actions of the Tinkers in wearing armbands did not cause disruption and held that their activity represented constitutionally protected symbolic speech.</quote> Edit: I just realized that even though this is a state school, idk how the ruling on a high school thing would apply to college</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyJumper6 12/21/17 3:49:24 AM #44:	Kneeling literally does nothing anyways. All these kids need to stop being so damn edgy and just do their job/sport <cite>JimmyJumper6 posted [p:892614199] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>Kneeling literally does nothing anyways. All these kids need to stop being so damn edgy and just do their job/sport</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 12/21/17 3:53:58 AM #45:	JimmyJumper6 posted... Kneeling literally does nothing anyways. All these kids need to stop being so damn edgy and just do their job/sport DepreceV2 posted... done to call attention to social inequality and police brutality --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:892614302] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>JimmyJumper6 posted...</cite> <quote>Kneeling literally does nothing anyways. All these kids need to stop being so damn edgy and just do their job/sport </quote> <cite>DepreceV2 posted...</cite> <quote>done to call attention to social inequality and police brutality</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyJumper6 12/21/17 3:57:30 AM #46:	@einegutePerson And? Nothing has came out of it? It all started because Caepernick wanted to make headlines and have a self righteous reason behind it. His action and the actions of all the hs/college kids have done nothing. What is kneeling going to do? Nothing <cite>JimmyJumper6 posted [p:892614393] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>@einegutePerson And? Nothing has came out of it? It all started because Caepernick wanted to make headlines and have a self righteous reason behind it. His action and the actions of all the hs/college kids have done nothing. What is kneeling going to do? Nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/21/17 4:00:10 AM #47:	"Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:892614444] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>"Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
einegutePerson 12/21/17 4:01:12 AM #48:	Rika_Furude posted... "Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever. son if u seen the things that i seen you wouldn't be saying this --- im a good person <cite>einegutePerson posted [p:892614462] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever.</quote> son if u seen the things that i seen you wouldn't be saying this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 12/21/17 4:01:30 AM #49:	i don't understand why kneeling is a big issue in the US. in my culture, kneeling symbolizes submission. so if someone kneeling for the National Anthem, it looks just like they are fully submitted to the Nation. why the heck it means the opposite in the US? --- You have the right to remain silent, anything you post will be misquoted, then used against you. <cite>Ricemills posted [p:892614474] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote>i don't understand why kneeling is a big issue in the US. in my culture, kneeling symbolizes submission. so if someone kneeling for the National Anthem, it looks just like they are fully submitted to the Nation. why the heck it means the opposite in the US?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 12/21/17 4:02:49 AM #50:	einegutePerson posted... Rika_Furude posted... "Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever. son if u seen the things that i seen you wouldn't be saying this You aint seen shit soyboy --- Posted with GameRaven 3.3 <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:892614499] in University... [t:76112451]...</cite> <quote><cite>einegutePerson posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> "Social inequality and police brutality" is the fakest thing to protest over ever.</quote> son if u seen the things that i seen you wouldn't be saying this</quote> You aint seen shit soyboy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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