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WastelandCowboy 12/15/17 8:21:12 PM #1: |
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/15/570595045/how-the-house-tax-overhaul-bill-could-hurt-affordable-housing
With lawmakers in the House and Senate announcing that they've reached a deal, affordable housing advocates are anxiously waiting to see which version of the bill wins out with regard to housing. They say the House bill has a poison pill in it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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slacker03150 12/15/17 8:30:41 PM #2: |
What won't the tax bill hurt?
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Cacciato 12/15/17 8:31:11 PM #3: |
slacker03150 posted...
What won't the tax bill hurt? Icoyar ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 12/15/17 8:34:18 PM #4: |
There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion.
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Cacciato 12/15/17 8:35:36 PM #5: |
Lokarin posted...
There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. The problem is America doesnt have any historical precedent for starting a rebellion over something tax-related. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 12/15/17 8:36:37 PM #6: |
Lokarin posted...
There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. militarized police can sure do a good job tho https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/08/28/trump-now-wants-to-militarize-the-police-at-exactly-the-wrong-moment/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-says-hell-militarize-local-police-takes-jab-at-obama-administration/2017/12/15/1c1c4474-e1b2-11e7-b2e9-8c636f076c76_video.html --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 12/15/17 8:36:42 PM #7: |
Cacciato posted...
Lokarin posted...There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. Ya, I meant like if things ever get crazy --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/15/17 8:36:57 PM #8: |
The reason tax credits and subsidies have been so crucial is that they reduce the cost of construction. So the developers, which are often non-profits, can charge less money for the units and that makes them affordable. The better idea would be to cut out City Hall red tape, zoning and land-use bullshit, and union strangleholds, to make it profitable to build a block of low-cost units without having to be bludgeoned or extorted to do so. https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/09/15/the-affordable-housing-fraud ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/15/17 9:15:52 PM #9: |
Maybe it'll encourage some people to look for work. My brother's old apartment building was more than half-filled by people who had the government paying for their rentals, their heat, their electricity, and their food so they never had to work. Humorously, my brother who grown up a hardcore liberal basically 180'd after a few years of seeing how things actually worked in those areas.
Cacciato posted... Lokarin posted...There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. This is kinda the reverse, though. It's a spending thing not a taking thing. And if taxation was going to trigger a war, we would have hit it decades ago. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 12/15/17 9:20:16 PM #10: |
Zeus posted...
And if taxation was going to trigger a war, we would have hit it decades ago. Quite a while ago, actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 12/15/17 9:28:36 PM #11: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Zeus posted...And if taxation was going to trigger a war, we would have hit it decades ago. Wow, I didn't know that the first president couldn't even go one full term without breaking their campaign goals. --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cacciato 12/15/17 9:43:53 PM #12: |
Lokarin posted...
Cacciato posted...Lokarin posted...There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. I was mainly referring to taxation being one of the issues that we had, you know, the American Revolution. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ogurisama 12/15/17 9:51:38 PM #13: |
Didnt you Americans leave the UK to get rid of taxes?
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Veedrock- 12/15/17 9:57:02 PM #14: |
Muh representation.
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Kyuubi4269 12/15/17 9:59:32 PM #15: |
Ogurisama posted...
Didnt you Americans leave the UK to get rid of taxes? They left because they wanted their taxes to buy votes in the UK, not houses for them to live in. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/16/17 12:49:40 AM #16: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Zeus posted...And if taxation was going to trigger a war, we would have hit it decades ago. Fun fact: A song about the Whiskey Rebellion (entitled "One Last Ride," in which Washingon and Hamilton travel down to suppress the rebellion) was cut from Hamilton: An American Musical and parts were reworked into "One Last Time." There's still a reference to the Whiskey Rebellion in the first cabinet battle ("When Britain taxed our tea, we got frisky / Imagine what's gonna happen when you try to tax our whiskey?") Ogurisama posted... Didnt you Americans leave the UK to get rid of taxes? And to have more say in politics, such as our ability to own slaves, which Britain was starting to ban. Not so coincidentally the abolishment movement was starting in 1772. Of course, that's not the history they teach in schools because it just makes the Civil War look even stupider. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kingdrake2 12/16/17 2:13:59 AM #17: |
Zeus posted...
Maybe it'll encourage some people to look for work. My brother's old apartment building was more than half-filled by people who had the government paying for their rentals, their heat, their electricity, and their food so they never had to work. Humorously, my brother who grown up a hardcore liberal basically 180'd after a few years of seeing how things actually worked in those areas. it's not even as much of the work problem, it's more of the problem being renting is too high. might be a work problem too. 50/50 on each. --- His hair cracks me up, It's like if vaudeville and feudal Japan did the fusion dance on his head - Yaridovich ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 12/16/17 3:21:51 AM #18: |
kingdrake2 posted...
Zeus posted...Maybe it'll encourage some people to look for work. My brother's old apartment building was more than half-filled by people who had the government paying for their rentals, their heat, their electricity, and their food so they never had to work. Humorously, my brother who grown up a hardcore liberal basically 180'd after a few years of seeing how things actually worked in those areas. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 12/16/17 4:54:32 AM #19: |
Lokarin posted...
There's almost nothing stopping people from just forming a lynch mob and taking what they want from the rich... police can't stop a rebellion. Nothing except the military, that is. No modern rebellion succeeds unless the military allows it to. The idea of a popular revolt is one that is now several centuries obsolete. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 12/16/17 5:49:48 AM #20: |
Can't really be surprised a bill that taxes the poor and gives to the rich is hurting the vast majority of programs.
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TheCyborgNinja 12/16/17 9:24:04 AM #21: |
What is the end goal here, exactly? A bloody coup? Eventually therell be nothing left below the ruling class, and unlike most autocracies, America is full of well-armed, anti-government militias. Take away without putting back and eventually people will have nothing to lose. Source: France and Russia, among others.
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Philoktetes 12/16/17 9:31:54 AM #22: |
affordable housing is just a government handout to people who can't afford housing
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mastermix3000 12/16/17 10:07:44 AM #23: |
It's sad. Looking like this is actually going to become law
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