Board 8 > Is there anybody on this board that does not believe in evolution?

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AirJordan2345
12/12/17 1:23:12 PM
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greengravy294
12/12/17 1:23:36 PM
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HaRRicH
12/12/17 1:28:13 PM
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ScareChan
12/12/17 1:28:25 PM
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This topic is now about Evolution

EVOLUTION IS A MYSTERY
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MZeroXVII
12/12/17 1:37:33 PM
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I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general
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Gmunnyz
12/12/17 1:38:12 PM
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MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general

wait really
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 1:38:16 PM
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greengravy294 posted...
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scarletspeed7
12/12/17 1:38:24 PM
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LeBron James
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Dancedreamer
12/12/17 1:47:29 PM
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Do we have any flat earthers?
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neonreaper
12/12/17 1:53:23 PM
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we used to have "intelligent design" fans
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Lightning Strikes
12/12/17 1:58:09 PM
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MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general


I've got some bad news for you buddy.

We're animals.
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KingButz
12/12/17 1:58:47 PM
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I honestly never think about evolution because it takes place over eons and I will probably not live for eons so it's not useful to me
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UInstinctGogeta
12/12/17 2:01:32 PM
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Macro. Absolutely not.

Micro you can actually see in real life however, so anyone who ever denies evolution as whole is wrong and there is evidence for it in the current moving world.
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XBoner
12/12/17 2:02:22 PM
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it doesn't always take place over eons, bacteria etc. you can see it over 5 yrs or 10 years or so. Evolution taking place, and you didn't answer the question either
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MZero11
12/12/17 2:10:43 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general


I've got some bad news for you buddy.

We're animals.


if you can say that in the language of any other animal I'll believe you
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JeffreyRaze
12/12/17 2:12:39 PM
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There's no micro vs macro evolution, it's just that big changes take time and a lot of small changes to come about.

Large scale changes and details that take many generations to occur are somewhat observable through how we make AI these days. We've made a go playing program and nobody knows why it makes the moves it does because nobody programmed it. Genetic algorithms over neural networks can solve a hell of a lot of problems with basically no input from us.
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JeffreyRaze
12/12/17 2:15:41 PM
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MZero11 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general


I've got some bad news for you buddy.

We're animals.


if you can say that in the language of any other animal I'll believe you


Dolphins have been observed to name eachother and respond to those names. There's some evidence they have language to some degree.
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UInstinctGogeta
12/12/17 2:16:37 PM
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JeffreyRaze posted...
There's no micro vs macro evolution, it's just that big changes take time and a lot of small changes to come about.

Large scale changes and details that take many generations to occur are somewhat observable through how we make AI these days. We've made a go playing program and nobody knows why it makes the moves it does because nobody programmed it. Genetic algorithms over neural networks can solve a hell of a lot of problems with basically no input from us.


There is. But I literally don't feel like getting in another evolution argument here....

Suffice it to say we aren't animals and didn't come from primates and that's where I'm leaving this. Have a good day.
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JeffreyRaze
12/12/17 2:18:44 PM
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I mean, you're not obligated to get into a debate. But I am curious why you think micro evolution wouldn't produce macro evolution over time.
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CelesMyUserName
12/12/17 2:19:30 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Macro. Absolutely not.

Micro you can actually see in real life however, so anyone who ever denies evolution as whole is wrong and there is evidence for it in the current moving world.

this doesn't make any sense

"macro" is just "micro" over an immensely long time
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CelesMyUserName
12/12/17 2:20:29 PM
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MZero11 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general


I've got some bad news for you buddy.

We're animals.


if you can say that in the language of any other animal I'll believe you

what

did dogs develop the ability to chirp like a bird or something
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MariaTaylor
12/12/17 2:21:25 PM
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CelesMyUserName posted...
MZero11 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
MZeroXVII posted...
I don't believe humans evolved from animals, but i do believe in the evolution of animals in general


I've got some bad news for you buddy.

We're animals.


if you can say that in the language of any other animal I'll believe you

what

did dogs develop the ability to chirp like a bird or something


all animals have the ability to communicate with all other animals, didn't you know
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Dancedreamer
12/12/17 2:26:31 PM
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I don't get how language supposedly makes us 'not animals'. I mean if you say "Well, we're special cause we have language." Then I guess Salamanders aren't animals either. After all they can regenerate their limbs, and we can't. So they're special too.
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paperwarior
12/12/17 2:34:11 PM
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Animals definitively have language, anyway. Like dolphins and birds. It's not as complex as ours, of course.
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MZero11
12/12/17 2:37:58 PM
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Dancedreamer posted...
I don't get how language supposedly makes us 'not animals'. I mean if you say "Well, we're special cause we have language." Then I guess Salamanders aren't animals either. After all they can regenerate their limbs, and we can't. So they're special too.


Yes but other animals can regenerate their limbs, not just salamanders. and language is only one example

JeffreyRaze posted...


Dolphins have been observed to name eachother and respond to those names. There's some evidence they have language to some degree.


that's cool but do they debate about evolution on an online message board?
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Dancedreamer
12/12/17 2:41:01 PM
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MZero11 posted...
Yes but other animals can regenerate their limbs, not just salamanders. and language is only one example


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.
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CeraSeptem
12/12/17 2:41:05 PM
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This is just what we needed.

And I'm going to read all of it. Goddamn you.
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paperwarior
12/12/17 2:42:24 PM
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Clearly we're sapient life with millennia of civilization and technology, but I'm not sure what this has to do with evolution existing or not.
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 2:42:28 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
Suffice it to say we aren't animals and didn't come from primates and that's where I'm leaving this. Have a good day.

I don't think you know what suffice means
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Peridiam
12/12/17 2:44:14 PM
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So far we have:

MWC
Mzero

Shaping up pretty good.
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CelesMyUserName
12/12/17 2:47:09 PM
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hairy frogs can make their bones come out their toes like wolverine

clearly they are no longer animals
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MZero11
12/12/17 2:48:27 PM
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Dancedreamer posted...


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.


Language is used for more than just communication. Although if you don't care about language than how about electricity, plumbing, farming, cars, airplanes, computers, phones, writing, infrastructure, marriage, civil rights, philosophy, mathematics, science... I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of

and humans can build bionic limbs, close enough!
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CelesMyUserName
12/12/17 2:48:54 PM
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MZero11 posted...
farming

have you ever heard of bees
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 2:50:05 PM
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MZero isn't actually serious though
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Peridiam
12/12/17 2:50:49 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
MZero isn't actually serious though

One could argue MWC isn't either.
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Steiner
12/12/17 2:50:53 PM
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Peridiam posted...
So far we have:

MWC
Mzero

Shaping up pretty good.


was this part of a smfffc trade
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neonreaper
12/12/17 2:51:14 PM
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MZero11 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.


Language is used for more than just communication. Although if you don't care about language than how about electricity, plumbing, farming, cars, airplanes, computers, phones, writing, infrastructure, marriage, civil rights, philosophy, mathematics, science... I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of

and humans can build bionic limbs, close enough!


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MariaTaylor
12/12/17 2:51:32 PM
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MZero11 posted...
I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of


okay so you admit humans are animals
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JeffreyRaze
12/12/17 2:52:00 PM
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MZero11 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.


Language is used for more than just communication. Although if you don't care about language than how about electricity, plumbing, farming, cars, airplanes, computers, phones, writing, infrastructure, marriage, civil rights, philosophy, mathematics, science... I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of

and humans can build bionic limbs, close enough!


Were we not special until we had those things?
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CelesMyUserName
12/12/17 2:53:15 PM
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JeffreyRaze posted...
MZero11 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.


Language is used for more than just communication. Although if you don't care about language than how about electricity, plumbing, farming, cars, airplanes, computers, phones, writing, infrastructure, marriage, civil rights, philosophy, mathematics, science... I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of

and humans can build bionic limbs, close enough!


Were we not special until we had those things?

everyone born before the computer age is an animal, those born after are an entirely different and unique species unrelated to them
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 2:53:47 PM
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Peridiam posted...
One could argue MWC isn't either.

They'd be wrong
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Peridiam
12/12/17 2:55:44 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Peridiam posted...
One could argue MWC isn't either.

They'd be wrong

Why think Mzero isn't serious, though? He's always struck me as legitimately being "out there".
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foolm0r0n
12/12/17 2:59:34 PM
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Peridiam posted...
Why think Mzero isn't serious, though? He's always struck me as legitimately being "out there".

His responses are way too devil's advocate/off the top of his head. The rhetoric is too loose. Like he's never argued it before, which is impossible if you legitimately don't believe in evolution. Not like MWC who you can tell has held these beliefs for a long time and has had many arguments to refine his (obviously dumb/wrong) position.
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MZeroXVII
12/12/17 3:06:15 PM
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JeffreyRaze posted...
MZero11 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...


Other animals can communicate too. Just not with human language.

Regenerate an arm, and then I'll be impressed with the 'specialness' of humans.


Language is used for more than just communication. Although if you don't care about language than how about electricity, plumbing, farming, cars, airplanes, computers, phones, writing, infrastructure, marriage, civil rights, philosophy, mathematics, science... I mean I can go on and on about things that no other animals are capable of

and humans can build bionic limbs, close enough!


Were we not special until we had those things?


Yes because we had the potential to make them

Which is why I said of another animal gets to our level I'll believe it!
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Peridiam
12/12/17 3:06:21 PM
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I suppose it's possible I'm not giving him enough credit for a troll.

Last year he argued that anyone who left FFXV off a GOTY poll was dumb and wrong. And when I called him out for being childish, he didn't play it off as a joke, but instead doubled down and got even worse. Not MWC bad, but still laughably immature. Definitely one of those wake-up-and-smell-the-coffee moments for me regarding a user.
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MrGreenonion
12/12/17 3:06:41 PM
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I believe in pressing B
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Solioxrz362
12/12/17 3:12:36 PM
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MZero:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantek
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Dancedreamer
12/12/17 3:24:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aekUZ3PYKNU


Look at this chimp solving memory puzzles (using technology)
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Gatarix
12/12/17 3:31:45 PM
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Solioxrz362 posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantek

For the next eleven years of his life, he was confined to a 5x5 cage, where he entered a depression and put on weight due to his inactive lifestyle at Yerkes. When his caretakers were permitted to visit, he continually signed for them to get car keys and take him home.

:((
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banananor
12/12/17 3:36:13 PM
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this is a crazy topic, thanks for making it!

i somehow thought the world as a whole had collectively agreed on these basic scientific facts at some point in the 2000s
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