Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 154: A Very Special Election

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

Lopen posted...

Well it has probably received more discussion than it deserves. I do agree with that much. Not really the topic's fault, though-- mainstream media is giving it a ton of attention too.

Liberal outlets have yes,

just went to your favorite site for political news: fox news.

literally a story on the front page: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/12/roy-moores-wife-defends-against-anti-semitic-claims-one-our-attorneys-is-jew.html

whoops

First of all, I go to CNN and Fox News equally. Second of all, right now Fox's main story is on McCabe and not a single Moore story is on their front page. CNN's first Nine articles is in some way related to Moore.
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Corrik posted...

Second of all, right now Fox's main story is on McCabe and not a single Moore story is on their front page.

...i literally got that link from the front page?

are you using a different definition of "front page" than i am?
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I am watching the unsubstantiated claim that Keaton, the 12 year old, was bullied and beat up because he used the N-word. When they are asked for proof of this, the response has been "Where's the proof that he was bullied at all?"

ZERO self awareness. Willing to believe every single sexual assault claim that can ruin careers and send people to jail, but WHERE'S THE PROOF that a 12 year old with a fucked up face wasn't bullied. Fuck outta here.

These people deserve to suffer through a Roy Moore victory, as terrible as he is.
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Corrik posted...

not a single Moore story is on their front page

It's not at the top, but you realize Ctrl+F exists, right?
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redrocket_pub posted...

Why are people still trying to have legitimate conversations with Corrik?

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redrocket_pub posted...

redrocket_pub posted...

Why are people still trying to have legitimate conversations with Corrik?

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I mean, people still try to gave discussions with mwc, who is basically just a corrik further down the authoritarian rabbit hole.
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I blocked Corrik after the whole "ulterior motives" phase he had and I've not missed him since. He's not so bad sometimes but I'm not rewarding that behavior with my time anymore.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

Second of all, right now Fox's main story is on McCabe and not a single Moore story is on their front page.

...i literally got that link from the front page?

are you using a different definition of "front page" than i am?

My definition of front page is the main articles listed on the front of the mobile site. On CNN, this is before CNN breaks off into US World etc offshoot headlines (otherwise CNN's front page is like 300 headlines which no one counts as front page content). This is generally 4 to 5 major headlines with supporting articles.
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kevwaffles posted...

Corrik posted...

not a single Moore story is on their front page

It's not at the top, but you realize Ctrl+F exists, right?

I do not have time right now to type them all out but here is the FoxNews front page content.

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Key FBI official McCabe too busy to make appearance before House Intelligence Committee
SCHEDULE SWAMPED
Key FBI official McCabe too busy to make appearance before House Intelligence Committee
McCabes testimony was likely to focus on Peter Strzoks role in the Clinton email investigation. Strzok is a former deputy to the assistant FBI director who was removed Mueller's staff after it was learned he exchanged anti-Trump texts with a colleague.

Inside the Trump dossier handoff: McCain's 'go-between' speaks out
Wife of demoted DOJ official worked for firm behind anti-Trump dossier
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FLASHBACK: McCabe contradicts White House message on Comey in May testimony
5:10
Rep. Jordan: We need to depose Peter Strzok, talk to Bruce Ohr
San Francisco's mayor dies at city's Zuckerberg hospital
ED LEE DEAD AT 65
San Francisco's mayor dies at city's Zuckerberg hospital

Recreational marijuana rules rile pot-friendly San Francisco
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San Francisco's 43rd mayor Ed Lee dead at age 65

NFL Network rocked by new sex harassment lawsuit naming former stars
PERSONAL FOULS
NFL Network rocked by new sex harassment lawsuit naming former stars

Hall of Fame quarterback accused of sexual harassment by former assistant
Seattle star tries to confront fans in stand after having drinks thrown on him
Famous catwalker found naked, dead after falling from 20th floor balcony
MODEL TRAGEDY
Famous catwalker found naked, dead after falling from 20th floor balcony

New York City model, 26, found dead with throat slit in Jamaica, report says
Illegal immigrant guilty of killing family of 5 with hammer
GRUESOME, BRUTAL MURDER
Illegal immigrant guilty of killing family of 5 with hammer

New immigration, gun charges filed against illegal immigrant acquitted in Kate Steinle trial

Ok busy ttyl.
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regardless, both CNN and fox are reporting on this so it's clear that this is a big deal to more people than just the ones living in alabama.

maybe we are giving this a bit more attention than is warranted, but it's not so much that it's worth complaining about.
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ExTha, you do realize that the reason why Keaton Jones story got so many questions was because of the controversy surrounding the gofund me page and the MMA fighter's conversation with an instagram account that was either posing as or actually was his mother, right? People didn't just go "OMG you're lying," fucking 99.9% of people were like "this was heartbreaking." Then a gofund me pops up immediately after the video goes vira and a conversation between Joe Schilling and "Kimberly Jones" involves phrases like "he might have been using the n-word" and "us whites need to stick together" gets put out.

So yeah, the waters got muddied almost immediately after the video came out.
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Like there was two gofundme pages that went up, one raising $60,000 and the other $55,000.
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i like how corrik's suggestion for a news story we SHOULD be talking about is the port authority explosion, btw. what the hell is there to say? at least the moore stuff is still ongoing.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i like how corrik's suggestion for a news story we SHOULD be talking about is the port authority explosion, btw. what the hell is there to say? at least the moore stuff is still ongoing.

It's also hypocritical because after a white man killed or injured over a hundred people a few months ago, we had to wait for the evidence and not politicize it.
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Peace___Frog posted...

It's also hypocritical because after a white man killed or injured over a hundred people a few months ago, we had to wait for the evidence and not politicize it.

By Corrik's logic shouldn't we only talk about the NY Port Authority explosion if we live in New York?
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Dancedreamer posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

It's also hypocritical because after a white man killed or injured over a hundred people a few months ago, we had to wait for the evidence and not politicize it.

By Corrik's logic shouldn't we only talk about the NY Port Authority explosion if we live in New York?

Why do you care so much tho
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Dancedreamer posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

It's also hypocritical because after a white man killed or injured over a hundred people a few months ago, we had to wait for the evidence and not politicize it.

By Corrik's logic shouldn't we only talk about the NY Port Authority explosion if we live in New York?

Not even new yorkers cared about it, because they are so brainwashed with capitalism that they just wanted to get to work.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

regardless, both CNN and fox are reporting on this so it's clear that this is a big deal to more people than just the ones living in alabama.

maybe we are giving this a bit more attention than is warranted, but it's not so much that it's worth complaining about.

I simply framed a question. I said something along the lines of "you guys sure seem to care a lot about this Alabama election" or something.

I was retorted with how much you should care.

All I did was ask if you were from Alabama or not.

This is the exchange. And, look at the response. That was all from yinz as I didn't even respond again in that topic after that I believe. (Nor did I read the end so I don't even know what yinz responded).

This only picked back up after someone tried to put words into my mouth and misrepresent what I said in this topic.

I mean, there is not a real harping on the issue. I merely framed the question that you guys, as you just said yinz might be doing, may be going overboard on the topic.
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Bernie Sanders with giant Trump tweets will never get old.
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Corrik posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

regardless, both CNN and fox are reporting on this so it's clear that this is a big deal to more people than just the ones living in alabama.

maybe we are giving this a bit more attention than is warranted, but it's not so much that it's worth complaining about.

I simply framed a question. I said something along the lines of "you guys sure seem to care a lot about this Alabama election" or something.

I was retorted with how much you should care.

All I did was ask if you were from Alabama or not.

This is the exchange. And, look at the response. That was all from yinz as I didn't even respond again in that topic after that I believe. (Nor did I read the end so I don't even know what yinz responded).

This only picked back up after someone tried to put words into my mouth and misrepresent what I said in this topic.

I mean, there is not a real harping on the issue. I merely framed the question that you guys, as you just said yinz might be doing, may be going overboard on the topic.

Even Lopen jumped on you a bit for it, so the implication behind your posts was pretty clear. You can't really play the "But I didn't say it" act.
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The implication of "are you from Alabama?" is that only people from Alabama should care about the senate race that much-- don't think anything was misrepresented there. Was just kind of a dumb thing to say.
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few things about corrik trigger me so much as his overuse of the word "yinz."
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He over uses it, but so does everyone else in this city (myself included).
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/940567812053053441

Good thing these moronic ramblings are going to be documented and saved as official statements of the POTUS.
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Is Donald Trump really taking up for Bill Clinton, after he and his team attacked Hillary for Bill's actions and brought his accusers to debates to go after Hillary? Is he really? I mean... he can't be that self unaware can he?
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dude is just giving Gillibrand a huge bump in notoriety (which she needed)

thanks Trump
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The Mana Sword posted...

dude is just giving Gillibrand a huge bump in notoriety (which she needed)

thanks Trump

She still (like everyone else) has ZERO chance in 2020.

Peace___Frog posted...

He over uses it, but so does everyone else in this city (myself included).

you don't overuse it here!
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If Doug Jones pulls off a miracle and wins, how bad does supporting Roy Moore make the Republican Party look?
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Dancedreamer posted...

If Doug Jones pulls off a miracle and wins, how bad does supporting Roy Moore make the Republican Party look?

It means 2018 is gonna be a blood bath for them.
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They look bad either way. Republicans just get to wash their hands from it faster if Roy loses. If they have to work beside the man for 3+ years when they had every right to support a man instead who fought the KKK, that's gonna stick with them far longer...and this ignores any BS Roy pulls while elected.
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Dancedreamer posted...

Is Donald Trump really taking up for Bill Clinton, after he and his team attacked Hillary for Bill's actions and brought his accusers to debates to go after Hillary? Is he really? I mean... he can't be that self unaware can he?

The dumbest part is HE WAS A HUGE CLINTON SUPPORTER for years and years. Going after someone for the reasoning of you used to support the Clintons but not anymore should be so transparent for everyone.

But of course all of his diehard supporters will rationalize it away in the most nonsensical way possible.
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Okay so Rock's response makes me think I read it wrong.

It's still gonna be an uphill climb in 2018. Think of all that's come out against Roy this month and you'll see that the election wasn't expected to be close before we found out shit like Roy was banned from a mall. Virginia's encouraging, but also after Charlottesville that makes a lot of sense for that state to flip. Oklahoma's done some flipping so that's encouraging too...just skeptical.

It'd be an important trend to see if Jones can win here, but I'm wary for now.
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Early reports are showing very big turnout in Alabama.
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I mean, Bannon is gonna push for more Moore-style Republican candidates in primaries, and there's a very real chance they manage to pull off primary victories and go on to general elections.

The only reason Moore is still even in this race is because it's Alabama. Swap a deeply red state with a slightly red state and Moore loses without question. All of a sudden more seats than expected become vulnerable in the Senate and the House becomes realistically flippable.
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HashtagSEP posted...

Corrik posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

regardless, both CNN and fox are reporting on this so it's clear that this is a big deal to more people than just the ones living in alabama.

maybe we are giving this a bit more attention than is warranted, but it's not so much that it's worth complaining about.

I simply framed a question. I said something along the lines of "you guys sure seem to care a lot about this Alabama election" or something.

I was retorted with how much you should care.

All I did was ask if you were from Alabama or not.

This is the exchange. And, look at the response. That was all from yinz as I didn't even respond again in that topic after that I believe. (Nor did I read the end so I don't even know what yinz responded).

This only picked back up after someone tried to put words into my mouth and misrepresent what I said in this topic.

I mean, there is not a real harping on the issue. I merely framed the question that you guys, as you just said yinz might be doing, may be going overboard on the topic.

Even Lopen jumped on you a bit for it, so the implication behind your posts was pretty clear. You can't really play the "But I didn't say it" act.

Lopen didn't jump on me for what I said. He jumped on me because he made the mistake of believing I said what the person who misconstrued what I said posted.

Which he should have known better lol
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The Mana Sword posted...

Early reports are showing very big turnout in Alabama.

Definitely favors Moore.
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Republicans will be better off if Moore looses because it will be easier to pretend that it never happened.

On the other hand it also means that they'll either have to flip a Democrat senate seat or hold Arizona.
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charmander6000 posted...

Republicans will be better off if Moore looses because it will be easier to pretend that it never happened.

On the other hand it also means that they'll either have to flip a Democrat senate seat or hold Arizona.

Nah, they want a Moore win because they can, at worse, have him pushed out via ethic violations and just have another special election with a less terrible candidate (I hear Luther Strange won't be too busy).

Outright losing the seat means Alabama is gone until 2021, and that's huge for them.
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THEDavyJones posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

Early reports are showing very big turnout in Alabama.

Definitely favors Moore.

Since when does higher turnout favor the Republican? (The reports of high turnout have been from D areas anyway)
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/melania-ivanka-jared-mayoral-election-votes-didn-count-article-1.3692124

Poor Trumps, victims of voter suppression!
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The Mana Sword posted...

THEDavyJones posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

Early reports are showing very big turnout in Alabama.

Definitely favors Moore.

Since when does higher turnout favor the Republican? (The reports of high turnout have been from D areas anyway)

A heavily GOP seat ended up being super closely contested thanks to record low turnout. By contrast, the Georgia 6th special election ended up with relatively high voter turnout and they won that seat rather handily (when it was a toss-up a week before the election).
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And in general, it's cause it's Alabama. There's a huge base for Moore to work with, so higher turnout will favor him since he has a greater voting bloc to tap into.
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Corrik posted...

Lopen didn't jump on me for what I said. He jumped on me because he made the mistake of believing I said what the person who misconstrued what I said posted.

I don't think anyone misconstrued what you said in the regard I gave you flak for. I mean you've more or less been arguing for the position that only Alabama people should care about the election much with your "I personally could care less because it is an Alabama Senate race" rhetoric the whole time.
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Lopen posted...

Corrik posted...

Lopen didn't jump on me for what I said. He jumped on me because he made the mistake of believing I said what the person who misconstrued what I said posted.

I don't think anyone misconstrued what you said in the regard I gave you flak for. I mean you've more or less been arguing for the position that only Alabama people should care about the election much with your "I personally could care less because it is an Alabama Senate race" rhetoric the whole time.

Have reiterated what I said multiple times and that ain't it. So that's on you I guess but does prove my point that you jumped on a misconstrued point as I stated
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THEDavyJones posted...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/melania-ivanka-jared-mayoral-election-votes-didn-count-article-1.3692124

Poor Trumps, victims of voter suppression!

Why exactly are we seeing their votes? Aren't they supposed to be private?

I mean, as funny as it is seeing them still fuck up at voting (and Trump listing his own birthday wrong), isn't this information supposed to be sealed and private?
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I mean I literally have been quoting things you said verbatim. That one was from #152. If you're being misconstrued in this instance you're not communicating effectively more than being misconstrued.
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Corrik posted...

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Corrik also didn't know why the rest of the country would care if someone was elected to the United States Senate from Alabama.

Hey, look! Someone again blatantly lying about what was said.

What I said was you guys sure seem to care a lot.

Responded with how much should I care?

I asked if you are from Alabama?

Cue 14 posts completely devoid of common sense stating how not being from Alabama doesn't matter in how much you care about it. (hint: it should).

Corrik posted...

Lopen posted...

Corrik posted...

Sup, bud?

"You guys care an awful lot about the Alabama senate race" very clown

People should care about every senate race. The more contentious ones especially. The controversial ones doubly especially.

What about it? You should have some minor care about it sure.

It is very easy to compare the "care" between this race and every other race.

And to act like you should care as much as a person from Alabama is a straight lack of common Sense across the board.

They do not vote in the Alabama race. The Alabama Senator does not represent them. They are not his constituents. An Alabama Senator is charged with primarily looking out for his state and trying to do what he thinks is best for his state.

Anyone saying the Alabama race is as important to them as an Alabama person is lacking common sense and just saying nonsense.

This is just them doing as Ulti says in playing "Team Blue".

There has been like 33 Senate Elections this past year. The care for those races boiled down to which one they thought they could win for their team. Little to do with positions, background of candidates, or otherwise. This is simply no different.

The fact is the singular Alabama Senator spot is less than half a % of the process in making decisions in this country. It has no real significance over than an Alaska Senator spot. A Maine one. A California one. Etc. Which we can see just by before that all was cared about was if a seat was one for their party and not on background, political spots, or so on.

Yes. The care of going on and on about it nonstop for what almost a month is a "You guys care a whole lot yadda yadda". And acting like their care should be equivalent to someone who lives in Alabama is illogical. It would be tantamount to someone living in Yemen saying they care as much about the Russian election as a Russian does. Illogical.

I wonder how many of these people who even care even know what the Democrats stances are on positions. Hell, I don't even know the dude's name because I could care less. It is an Alabama Senate Race. I do not have a dog in the race. Who cares.

I sure as fuck didn't care who won Senate or House seats on election day besides hoping for a majority. I sure as fuck am not going to care more than that now.

Yes, this is what I said.

I will venture to go further that some people here are definitely even acting like they care more about this Alabama Senate Race than their own state's Senate races.

My comment is clearly based on how overboard they are going on the subject. It is getting to Trump-Clinton levels.
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I normally think of higher voter turn-out as good for Democrats, and that's also coupled by the likelihood of Roy-fans being energized fot Roy VS Jones-fans being energized for Jones

That said, Alabama's a red-ass state...hard to bet against higher turn-outs helping Republicans in that way.

I dunno man. This election's out of reasonable expectations.
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