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PK_Spam
12/05/17 3:57:16 PM
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They drink every day, and then go and say that illegal drugs like weed need to be permanently put onto a list that guarantees a spot on death row if you're seen anywhere near it.

I'm sorry your life is so empty without a half bottle of wine every Monday, Sharmon, but I can say, with absolute certainty, that your wine is waaaaaaaaaay worse for you than pot will ever be.
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Jen0125
12/05/17 4:01:15 PM
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a bottle of wine every monday is nothing
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minervo
12/05/17 4:10:03 PM
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Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it
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SunWuKung420
12/05/17 4:25:03 PM
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minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it


the FDA said extensive research shows no causative link between marijuana use and the development of psychosis.

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OhhhJa
12/05/17 4:26:22 PM
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Sharmin is toilet paper bro
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Zeus
12/05/17 4:29:26 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it


the FDA said extensive research shows no causative link between marijuana use and the development of psychosis.


Gee, maybe they need to research some more then =p
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EvilMegas
12/05/17 5:18:15 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
a bottle of wine every monday is nothing

Wine errrday, huntie.
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Cacciato
12/05/17 5:30:12 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Jen0125 posted...
a bottle of wine every monday is nothing

Wine errrday, huntie.

I crushed a bottle of rum last night.

I also hate myself a little today but Im not sure if thats connected.
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SmokeMassTree
12/05/17 5:33:56 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Sharmin is toilet paper bro


Right who tf names their kid toilet paper
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Jen0125
12/05/17 5:36:35 PM
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Cacciato posted...
EvilMegas posted...
Jen0125 posted...
a bottle of wine every monday is nothing

Wine errrday, huntie.

I crushed a bottle of rum last night.

I also hate myself a little today but Im not sure if thats connected.


definitely not connected
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benbeverfaqs
12/05/17 7:00:50 PM
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Weed is softdrugs and can have harmful effects if not used in moderation.
Alcohol is harddrugs and can destroy your life (and health) when not used in moderation.
They're pretty hard to compare..
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green dragon
12/05/17 7:03:13 PM
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minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better
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OhhhJa
12/05/17 7:04:55 PM
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minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Lol
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Thugstar
12/05/17 7:12:40 PM
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Alcohol does nothing but numb and relax. I don't fuck with drugs that affect my psyche.
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minervo
12/05/17 7:20:05 PM
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green dragon posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better

Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.
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Cacciato
12/05/17 7:23:49 PM
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minervo posted...
green dragon posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better

Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.

Then stop making shit up and stop smoking the devils lettuce.
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Jen0125
12/05/17 7:25:59 PM
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minervo posted...
Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.


and a lot of people have the opposite effect as you
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OhhhJa
12/05/17 7:26:02 PM
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minervo posted...
green dragon posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better

Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.

Sounds like you have depression/anxiety and yeah... weed can definitely exacerbate those. Doesn't mean weed is bad and alcohol is good. You're using alcohol to self medicate those problems and weed is bringing those problems to the forefront
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minervo
12/05/17 7:33:11 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
minervo posted...
green dragon posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better

Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.

Sounds like you have depression/anxiety and yeah... weed can definitely exacerbate those. Doesn't mean weed is bad and alcohol is good. You're using alcohol to self medicate those problems and weed is bringing those problems to the forefront


You're right, cannabis can enhance already existing emotions, so if you're happy and content it might be good for you.

I was at mcdonalds the other week and the people working there were so stoned out of their minds they forgot my coffee order and couldn't hand me an extra cup without knocking it over. They also couldn't look me in the eyes.

I don't hate weed, but I do hate it when people act like it's harmless and could solve all our problems.
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myghostisdead
12/05/17 7:44:21 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
They drink every day, and then go and say that illegal drugs like weed need to be permanently put onto a list that guarantees a spot on death row if you're seen anywhere near it.

I'm sorry your life is so empty without a half bottle of wine every Monday, Sharmon, but I can say, with absolute certainty, that your wine is waaaaaaaaaay worse for you than pot will ever be.


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OhhhJa
12/05/17 7:52:58 PM
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minervo posted...
OhhhJa posted...
minervo posted...
green dragon posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it

Hope you're not implying alcohol is much better

Alcohol is much better. There's a reason they call it spirit - that's what it does to me, makes me impervious to bad thoughts and eases my mental anguish if but for a while. Weed does the opposite - makes me feel dead and all the bad thoughts come.

Sounds like you have depression/anxiety and yeah... weed can definitely exacerbate those. Doesn't mean weed is bad and alcohol is good. You're using alcohol to self medicate those problems and weed is bringing those problems to the forefront


You're right, cannabis can enhance already existing emotions, so if you're happy and content it might be good for you.

I was at mcdonalds the other week and the people working there were so stoned out of their minds they forgot my coffee order and couldn't hand me an extra cup without knocking it over. They also couldn't look me in the eyes.

I don't hate weed, but I do hate it when people act like it's harmless and could solve all our problems.

Abusing anything is not good for your mental health for sure. Weed has drastically different effects for different people. Alcohol has a much more narrow range for how it effects people. I will say that anytime I've done anything that I regretted the next day, it was pretty much always alcohol and never weed
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SunWuKung420
12/05/17 8:03:56 PM
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Remember when shark constantly posted about how cool he was with all his college drinking?
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DrPrimemaster
12/05/17 8:28:29 PM
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I would say weed exposes conditions but it doesn't cause them. It unmasked my mental health issues.
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OhhhJa
12/05/17 8:30:22 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
I would say weed exposes conditions but it doesn't cause them. It unmasked my mental health issues.

Pretty much this. Alcohol suppresses them. Weed is like, "bud you got some stuff goin on"
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Veedrock-
12/05/17 8:31:30 PM
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Weed stinks.
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Jen0125
12/05/17 8:31:48 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Weed stinks.


Not if you eat it
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OhhhJa
12/05/17 8:45:20 PM
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I much prefer edibles whenever I do it these days
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SmokeMassTree
12/05/17 8:46:11 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Veedrock- posted...
Weed stinks.


Not if you eat it


Ok artic
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Jen0125
12/05/17 8:56:27 PM
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Me too oohja. Either that or vape pens.
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Jen0125
12/05/17 8:56:44 PM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Veedrock- posted...
Weed stinks.


Not if you eat it


Ok artic


I mean you can definitely make it edible.
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SmokeMassTree
12/05/17 8:57:19 PM
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Ok artic
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OhhhJa
12/05/17 10:32:24 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Me too oohja. Either that or vape pens.

Yeah my gf has one of those. They're convenient because they don't really smell and they taste all flowery. I used to have one too but i got carried away with it and it was eating into my budget (back when I was a daily user)
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Moonjay
12/05/17 10:57:54 PM
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Vape is nice but green milk is the way to go places.
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SunWuKung420
12/05/17 11:39:35 PM
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Vape is so convenient and control over dosage.
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TES_Nut
12/06/17 1:23:07 AM
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Vape pens just add a bunch of glycerine to already sub par oil.
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SmokeMassTree
12/06/17 1:24:28 AM
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TES_Nut posted...
Vape pens just add a bunch of glycerine to already sub par oil.


Dried herb vape pens or no vape pens

Gpen is where it's at for discreet hits
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darkknight109
12/06/17 1:24:37 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
minervo posted...
Weed has caused psychosis and schizophrenia in countless people, including me. It also tore apart my family for a while. Stop acting like it's harmless and everyone should be doing it


the FDA said extensive research shows no causative link between marijuana use and the development of psychosis.

I remember explaining this to you in one of the last weed topics, so I'm disappointed to see you're still clinging to this argument.

The key word in that quote is "causative". There is an undisputed medical link between schizophrenia and heavy marijuana use. Here's 30 different studies that show the link:

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html#can

Now, none of those conclusively prove that marijuana *causes* schizophrenia, which is what the FDA quote refers to. This is mostly because the experiments necessary to prove a causative link would be extremely unethical (you would have to force one experimental group to smoke marijuana, preferably from birth), but there is a clear correlation. That means that either marijuana causes schizophrenia, schizophrenics are more likely to use marijuana, or both.

Correlation doesn't prove causation, but it does wink suggestively and make seductive gestures at it.

This is without getting into other health risks. For instance, smoking weed can cause a spike in blood pressure and heart rate which, over a prolonged period of time, is a risk factor for heart disease.

People (rightly) objected to the whole "reefer madness" nonsense a few decades back, where the government grossly over-exaggerated - and, in some cases, outright fabricated - the health risks associated with marijuana... but marijuana advocates seem to have watched those old films, decided that was a pretty good strategy, and made it their own. Over the course of my life I have watched the discussion change from "Weed's not THAT bad for you" (arguably true, depending on your definition of "THAT bad") to "Weed is harmless" (false) to "Weed is good for you" (very false) to "Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer" (homeopathy levels of false).

I'm fine with people advocating for marijuana legalization, but don't be fucking stupid about it. You don't need to lie about the drug and its effects to make your point and doing so makes everyone else less likely to take you seriously.
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SunWuKung420
12/06/17 7:40:36 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
I'm fine with people advocating for marijuana legalization, but don't be fucking stupid about it. You don't need to lie about the drug and its effects to make your point and doing so makes everyone else less likely to take you seriously.


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wwinterj25
12/06/17 9:52:58 AM
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PK_Spam posted...
but I can say, with absolute certainty, that your wine is waaaaaaaaaay worse for you than pot will ever be.


Doesn't matter about what's worse and what isn't to be honest. One is legal the other isn't(depending where you live) and that's all that matters. I've no issue people smoking weed but find it irksome the way some folk try and justify it. The only way I'd see the point is for medicinal purposes. Other than that your ploughing yourself with drugs just like anyone who smokes and/or drinks(including myself). At this point you're just arguing whos shit smells the worse when both smell bad.
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darkknight109
12/06/17 10:36:28 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
I'm fine with people advocating for marijuana legalization, but don't be fucking stupid about it. You don't need to lie about the drug and its effects to make your point and doing so makes everyone else less likely to take you seriously.


R4xwfOG

EdzvfQN

https://www.scribd.com/document/326538608/Why-the-FDA-thinks-marijuana-isn-t-medicine#

Good for you, you found one study that supports your view. I posted 30 above that support mine.
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OhhhJa
12/06/17 10:36:51 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
"Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer"

You'd be hard pressed to find people even amongst the most hardcore stoners that make this claim... But it definitely can be used as an appetite stimulant for aids and cancer patients struggling with loss of appetite
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darkknight109
12/06/17 11:11:49 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...
"Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer"

You'd be hard pressed to find people even amongst the most hardcore stoners that make this claim... But it definitely can be used as an appetite stimulant for aids and cancer patients struggling with loss of appetite

I have seen marijuana promoted as a panacea for virtually every ailment under the sun. Hell, someone once suggested that I try it to cure my asthma (when I pointed out that smoking something to cure a lung affliction was probably a bad idea, they answered with a shrug and said "You won't know until you try").

Similarly, the vast majority of patients taking medical marijuana are taking it for vague, difficult-to-verify conditions like "chronic pain". I'm not saying they're all faking it, but it's pretty clear a pretty significant proportion of them are because they'd like to smoke up without facing the risk of being arrested.

And that's what really bothers me about the marijuana movement: the dishonesty that gets used (and, as previously mentioned, this used to be a calling-card of the anti-drug hysterics so you'd expect the marijuana proponents to be aware of just how dumb it is). There's one argument that - while I disagree with it in terms of cost-benefit analysis - is also one I can respect and seldom object to, and that's simple honesty: "I'd like to be able to toke up and not worry about the cops busting down my door to toss me in prison and take my kids." That, to me, is probably the strongest argument in favour of legalization, not all these bullshit claims supported only by hokum science about how it cures cancer and raises alertness and is impossible to be addicted to and is a superior substitute for rope.
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The_tall_midget
12/06/17 11:15:11 AM
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I always have this image of a 40-year-old, wrinkle-infested woman who holds a glass of wine between her fingers and that glass seems to always fill up by itself without a bottle of wine ever being near her.
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SunWuKung420
12/06/17 1:19:33 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Good for you, you found one study that supports your view. I posted 30 above that support mine.


Those are excerpts from the 118page FDA report of all the cumulative data from marijuana research. Not one study, all the studies and all the data.
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Muscles
12/06/17 1:21:11 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...
"Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer"

You'd be hard pressed to find people even amongst the most hardcore stoners that make this claim... But it definitely can be used as an appetite stimulant for aids and cancer patients struggling with loss of appetite

It can prevent cancer, also Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and while its not a miracle plant it has many health benefits
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darkknight109
12/06/17 1:23:44 PM
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Muscles posted...
OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...
"Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer"

You'd be hard pressed to find people even amongst the most hardcore stoners that make this claim... But it definitely can be used as an appetite stimulant for aids and cancer patients struggling with loss of appetite

It can prevent cancer, also Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and while its not a miracle plant it has many health benefits

I rest my case.
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ssj4supervegeta
12/06/17 1:25:50 PM
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Sharmon? is she an ogre?
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darkknight109
12/06/17 1:26:30 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
darkknight109 posted...
Good for you, you found one study that supports your view. I posted 30 above that support mine.


Those are excerpts from the 118page FDA report of all the cumulative data from marijuana research. Not one study, all the studies and all the data.

It's adorable that you think there's such a thing as a report that studies "all the data".

Sounds like an internet meme, or maybe a Donald Trump campaign statement.
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Muscles
12/06/17 1:26:51 PM
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I have a actually researched the subject, its a fact, stop plugging your ears and going nananana I can't hear you
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OhhhJa
12/06/17 1:31:06 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Muscles posted...
OhhhJa posted...
darkknight109 posted...
"Weed is an all-natural miracle medicine that cures AIDS and cancer"

You'd be hard pressed to find people even amongst the most hardcore stoners that make this claim... But it definitely can be used as an appetite stimulant for aids and cancer patients struggling with loss of appetite

It can prevent cancer, also Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and while its not a miracle plant it has many health benefits

I rest my case.

Goddamn he had to show up... he doesn't exactly have the best reputation in terms of clear thinking... tinfoil hat stoners are pretty uncommon though
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