Current Events > Rex Tillerson is DONE. Will be replaced by CIA's Mike Pompeo

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Callixtus
11/30/17 10:18:30 AM
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WASHINGTON The White House has developed a plan to force out Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson, whose relationship with President Trump has been strained, and replace him with Mike Pompeo, the C.I.A. director, within the next several weeks, senior administration officials said on Thursday.

Mr. Pompeo would be replaced at the C.I.A. by Senator Tom Cotton, a Republican from Arkansas who has been a key ally of the president on national security matters, according to the White House plan. Mr. Cotton has signaled that he would accept the job if offered, said the officials, who insisted on anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations before decisions are announced.

It was not immediately clear whether Mr. Trump has given final approval to the plan, but he has been said to have soured on Mr. Tillerson and in general is ready to make a change at the State Department.

John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, developed the transition plan and has discussed it with other officials. Under his plan, the shake-up of the national security team would happen around the end of the year or shortly afterward.

The ouster of Mr. Tillerson would end a turbulent reign at the State Department for the former Exxon Mobile chief executive, who has been largely marginalized over the last year. Mr. Trump and Mr. Tillerson have been at odds over a host of major issues, including the Iran nuclear deal, the confrontation with North Korea and a clash between Arab allies. The secretary was reported to have privately called Mr. Trump a moron and the president publicly criticized Mr. Tillerson for wasting his time with a diplomatic outreach to North Korea.

Mr. Tillersons departure has been widely anticipated for months, but associates have said he was intent on finishing out the year to retain whatever dignity he could. Even so, an end-of-year exit would make his time in office the shortest of any secretary of state whose tenure was not ended by a change in presidents in nearly 120 years.

While some administration officials initially expected him to be replaced by Nikki R. Haley, the ambassador to the United Nations, Mr. Pompeo has become the White House favorite.

Mr. Pompeo, a former three-term member of Congress, has impressed Mr. Trump during daily intelligence briefings and become a trusted policy adviser even on issues far beyond the C.I.A.s normal mandate, like health care. But he has been criticized by intelligence officers for being too political in his job.

Mr. Cotton has been perhaps Mr. Trumps most important supporter in the Senate on national security and immigration and a valued outside adviser. Officials cautioned that there was still a debate about whether Mr. Cotton was more valuable to the president in the Senate than in taking over the spy agency in Langley, Va., but he is the consensus choice at the moment.

Under Arkansas state law, Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, would appoint a replacement who could serve until the 2018 election. If Mr. Cotton stayed in the Senate, his seat would not be up for election again until 2020.

Asked about a possible move, Caroline Rabbitt, a spokeswoman for Mr. Cotton, said, Senator Cottons focus is on serving Arkansans in the Senate.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/us/politics/state-department-tillerson-pompeo-trump.html
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Were_Wyrm
11/30/17 10:19:26 AM
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Oh god no...
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prince_leo
11/30/17 10:25:01 AM
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Foppe
11/30/17 10:27:42 AM
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Is this how he will drain the swamp?
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Balrog0
11/30/17 10:27:56 AM
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tom cotton is scum
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SamuelHayden
11/30/17 10:28:19 AM
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Wasn't there a news story about how T-Rex and other 2 cabinet members had a pact to leave if any of them got fired?
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lilORANG
11/30/17 10:28:58 AM
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Tillerson is still Sec of State. #FakeNews.
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Callixtus
11/30/17 10:29:01 AM
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SamuelHayden posted...
Wasn't there a news story about how T-Rex and other 2 cabinet members had a pact to leave if any of them got fired?

Guess we'll find out soon enough
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Vyrulisse
11/30/17 10:29:24 AM
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I wonder if people restore themselves when they leave like Theoden did once he was broken from Saruman's grasp.
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Callixtus
11/30/17 10:29:43 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Tillerson is still Sec of State. #FakeNews.

The topic title is 100% accurate
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Doom_Art
11/30/17 10:30:13 AM
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Tom Cotton is going to be the director of the CIA? Christ fucking help us all.
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lilORANG
11/30/17 10:33:57 AM
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Callixtus posted...
lilORANG posted...
Tillerson is still Sec of State. #FakeNews.

The topic title is blatant clickbait

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Sir Will
11/30/17 10:37:09 AM
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The world is fucked. Thanks America! -_-
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ledbowman
11/30/17 10:37:49 AM
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Tom Cotton, Nov. 2016: "Waterboarding isn't torture."
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Callixtus
11/30/17 10:38:38 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Callixtus posted...
lilORANG posted...
Tillerson is still Sec of State. #FakeNews.

The topic title is blatant clickbait

WRONG
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A_Good_Boy
11/30/17 10:42:16 AM
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SamuelHayden posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Tom Cotton is going to be the director of the CIA? Christ fucking help us all.


This would be scary as fuck. He is the RACE act guy.

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Doom_Art
11/30/17 10:44:39 AM
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Look at those little dead eyes.

Fuckin creep
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The Top Crusader
11/30/17 10:44:56 AM
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Tillerson seemed to have too much common sense for this administration so it was bound to happen.
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DirkDiggles
11/30/17 10:49:29 AM
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"Bend the knee and join the 'Kiss My Ass' club or you're out!" ~ President Donald J. Trump
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ChromaticAngel
11/30/17 10:53:00 AM
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It's like we elected Gavirulax to be president of the usa
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Cocytus
11/30/17 10:56:34 AM
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Why did Trump get elected again?
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Antifar
11/30/17 11:01:05 AM
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Cocytus posted...
Why did Trump get elected again?

So he could fill his cabinet with globalists and neocons
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CableZL
11/30/17 11:01:17 AM
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Balrog0
11/30/17 11:06:12 AM
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Antifar posted...
Cocytus posted...
Why did Trump get elected again?

So he could fill his cabinet with globalists and neocons


I don't think Pompeo or Cotton could appropriately be called gloablists or even neocons

they are just warhawks, they are not trying to entrench US economic interests more firmly into the global economy. if anything they are pretty nationalist.
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Doom_Art
11/30/17 11:12:40 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
they are just warhawks, they are not trying to entrench US economic interests more firmly into the global economy. if anything they are pretty nationalist.

Funnily enough I read a piece in the New Yorker last night all about Cotton.

"Trump's Successor?" I believe it was called. Went into his history, how his views align with Trump's, and how he is a pretty neat and tidy package for the sort of alt-right "nationalist" agenda.

Young, clean, (I won't say handsome, but you can make that argument), intelligent, a veteran, and with none of Trump's baggage? Scary as hell to think about, I'll say.
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Antifar
11/30/17 11:15:39 AM
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Tom Cotton would have won the 2020 election if Hillary were in office right now. Also he has wet dreams about invading Iran
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Letron_James
11/30/17 11:18:35 AM
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Antifar posted...
Tom Cotton would have won the 2020 election if Hillary were in office right now. Also he has wet dreams about invading Iran


A war with Iran would be worse than the first Iraq War for America.
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ColdRainAndSnow
11/30/17 11:21:24 AM
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Next is Sarah Sanders
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Doom_Art
11/30/17 11:22:25 AM
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Antifar posted...
Tom Cotton would have won the 2020 election if Hillary were in office right now. Also he has wet dreams about invading Iran

I was looking forward to seeing what the post-Trump GOP would've looked like tbh.

I do remember telling myself to keep an eye on Cotton though. I agree, he probably would've won the nomination.

And if Clinton ran again, he'd have probably beaten her.
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SamuelHayden
11/30/17 11:28:01 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Antifar posted...
Tom Cotton would have won the 2020 election if Hillary were in office right now. Also he has wet dreams about invading Iran

I was looking forward to seeing what the post-Trump GOP would've looked like tbh.

I do remember telling myself to keep an eye on Cotton though. I agree, he probably would've won the nomination.

And if Clinton ran again, he'd have probably beaten her.


Banon. Cotton. Miller. Kobach. Sessions. Moore. This is how their future looks like.

And on a slightly less probably trier we have Ann Coulter, Kid Rock and Ted Nugent.

Then on a 3rd tier of probability perhaps they'd try to naturalize Marine Le Penn, Nigel Farage and Geerts what-his-name from the Netherlands and have them run for congress too.
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tremain07
11/30/17 11:32:26 AM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
Doom_Art posted...
Tom Cotton is going to be the director of the CIA? Christ fucking help us all.


This would be scary as fuck. He is the RACE act guy.

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This, what's the race act?
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Sativa_Rose
11/30/17 11:36:05 AM
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Tillerson is one of the only competent people in the Trump administration, lol.

Yeah he's a former big oil CEO, but he had to be competent to get that job. He's one of the only people in the Trump admin who actually has what it takes to be successful. I guess it's no surprise that he's being pushed out the door then.
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tremain07
11/30/17 11:39:23 AM
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SamuelHayden posted...
tremain07 posted...

This, what's the race act?


some immigration bill that had a point system. A 21 yr old british bartender would get more points than a french or italian rocket scientist with a PHD. Being a native english speaker was the main qualification, unless you have an olympic medal or nobel prize.

That's a stupid as shit idea, a point system on immigration? Do you get extra for reciting the fucking S.B. B song from start to finish?
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Gheb
11/30/17 11:39:26 AM
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A year ago I would never anticipate being disappointed that an oil executive turned Secretary of State would be stepping down. What a bizarre administration.
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SamuelHayden
11/30/17 11:40:11 AM
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tremain07 posted...
SamuelHayden posted...
tremain07 posted...

This, what's the race act?


some immigration bill that had a point system. A 21 yr old british bartender would get more points than a french or italian rocket scientist with a PHD. Being a native english speaker was the main qualification, unless you have an olympic medal or nobel prize.

That's a stupid as shit idea, a point system on immigration? Do you get extra for reciting the fucking S.B. B song from start to finish?


LOL. Yeah it was cringe worthy.
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Anteaterking
11/30/17 11:55:11 AM
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creativerealms
11/30/17 12:44:07 PM
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Tillerson was gone the moment he insulted Trump.
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Callixtus
11/30/17 1:09:40 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not pretend Tillerson is good at his job just because he seems less insane and than his boss. The State Department is barely functioning with him in charge.

That's not really his fault. Trump takes every step possible to undermine him.
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UnholyMudcrab
11/30/17 1:11:16 PM
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Callixtus posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not pretend Tillerson is good at his job just because he seems less insane and than his boss. The State Department is barely functioning with him in charge.

That's not really his fault. Trump takes every step possible to undermine him.

Tillerson's only purpose in State was to help dismantle the department. He wasn't doing that fast enough, and the news about him calling Trump a fucking moron was icing on the cake.
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Sativa_Rose
11/30/17 10:33:00 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Callixtus posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not pretend Tillerson is good at his job just because he seems less insane and than his boss. The State Department is barely functioning with him in charge.

That's not really his fault. Trump takes every step possible to undermine him.

Tillerson's only purpose in State was to help dismantle the department. He wasn't doing that fast enough, and the news about him calling Trump a fucking moron was icing on the cake.


How is he dismantling it?
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billcom6
11/30/17 10:34:12 PM
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SamuelHayden
11/30/17 10:37:17 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Callixtus posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not pretend Tillerson is good at his job just because he seems less insane and than his boss. The State Department is barely functioning with him in charge.

That's not really his fault. Trump takes every step possible to undermine him.

Tillerson's only purpose in State was to help dismantle the department. He wasn't doing that fast enough, and the news about him calling Trump a fucking moron was icing on the cake.


How is he dismantling it?


skeleton crew.
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Sativa_Rose
11/30/17 10:53:37 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Sativa_Rose posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Callixtus posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not pretend Tillerson is good at his job just because he seems less insane and than his boss. The State Department is barely functioning with him in charge.

That's not really his fault. Trump takes every step possible to undermine him.

Tillerson's only purpose in State was to help dismantle the department. He wasn't doing that fast enough, and the news about him calling Trump a fucking moron was icing on the cake.


How is he dismantling it?

There are about 2000 vacancies in the state department currently. Career diplomats have been laid off without any replacements in sight.


Wow lol. I guess this is what Trump meant by draining the swamp.
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