Poll of the Day > Epic Games is suing a 14-year old kid for cheating in Fortnite.

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Ferarri619
11/28/17 10:19:03 PM
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https://www.engadget.com/2017/11/27/epic-battle-royale-cheating-lawsuit/

Epic Games even published the kid's name too.
I don't think this will end well.
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Nade Duck
11/28/17 10:23:45 PM
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can this fad die already
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Ferarri619
11/28/17 10:25:54 PM
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Nade Duck posted...
can this fad die already


What fad? O_o
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helIy
11/28/17 10:27:32 PM
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Rogers' mother filed a letter with North Carolina's US District Court saying that Epic "has no capability of proving any form of modification" because her son merely installed cheats he downloaded from Addicted Cheats, versus altering the game's source code himself.


literally just fucking admitted it though
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shadowsword87
11/28/17 10:28:51 PM
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helIy posted...
Rogers' mother filed a letter with North Carolina's US District Court saying that Epic "has no capability of proving any form of modification" because her son merely installed cheats he downloaded from Addicted Cheats, versus altering the game's source code himself.


literally just fucking admitted it though


I like how cheating is just altering the source code.
You can do literally anything else as long as you don't mess with the code, that's clearly how that works :/
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Mead
11/28/17 10:29:00 PM
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I like that game. My tactic is to always find a small hut or shed and hide in it for as long as possible. Let all the good players sort each other out.
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GanonsSpirit
11/28/17 10:32:09 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
can this fad die already


What fad? O_o

Happiness, I assume.
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Ultima_Dragoon
11/28/17 10:37:35 PM
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She says the case is based on a loss of profits, but argues that its a free-to-play video game, and that in order to prove a loss Epic would need to provide a statement certifying that Rogers cheating directly caused a mass profit loss

I know she's throwing out arguments against Epic and seeing what sticks, but I don't understand this one. If the game was $60 to play, they would have already gotten their money out of the kid. would see her point; they get $60 whether the kid cheated or not. However, this is free-to-play, which means they're only getting money on microtransactions. The players aren't going to want to keep coming back and buying in-game items when the game is full of cheaters. The health and stability of the game is the potential for profit. One person cheating does cause loss of profits from other potential buyers, but I suppose proving a specific amount would be difficult.
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Zeus
11/28/17 10:39:09 PM
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wtf?

This, along with the fact that the gaming juggernaut is suing a 14 year-old, strongly suggests that Epic had no idea who it was suing.


That would actually make a lot of sense, although it's the kind of due diligence lawyers should be doing.
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darcandkharg31
11/28/17 10:44:52 PM
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Nice.
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SmokeMassTree
11/28/17 10:51:54 PM
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Mead posted...
I like that game. My tactic is to always find a small hut or shed and hide in it for as long as possible. Let all the good players sort each other out.


You find a good gun. Find the circle. Hide in a bush/tree until it moves.

Game was cool until I got 1st the first time. Now it's just like why am I playing
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helIy
11/28/17 11:47:06 PM
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hell, it fortnite, you can be the bush
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Zeus
11/28/17 11:57:17 PM
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helIy posted...
hell, it fortnite, you can be the bush


What about the cheney?
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old_school227
11/29/17 12:25:20 AM
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Ultima_Dragoon posted...
She says the case is based on a loss of profits, but argues that its a free-to-play video game, and that in order to prove a loss Epic would need to provide a statement certifying that Rogers cheating directly caused a mass profit loss

I know she's throwing out arguments against Epic and seeing what sticks, but I don't understand this one. If the game was $60 to play, they would have already gotten their money out of the kid. would see her point; they get $60 whether the kid cheated or not. However, this is free-to-play, which means they're only getting money on microtransactions. The players aren't going to want to keep coming back and buying in-game items when the game is full of cheaters. The health and stability of the game is the potential for profit. One person cheating does cause loss of profits from other potential buyers, but I suppose proving a specific amount would be difficult.


ah but Activision has a patent where they match-make people who haven't bought loot boxes against people who have better weapons, in order to incite players to buy lootboxes. So you could argue that this cheating kid is making players want to buy boxes so they can get better.
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HelIWithoutSin
11/29/17 12:27:47 AM
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old_school227 posted...
Ultima_Dragoon posted...
She says the case is based on a loss of profits, but argues that its a free-to-play video game, and that in order to prove a loss Epic would need to provide a statement certifying that Rogers cheating directly caused a mass profit loss

I know she's throwing out arguments against Epic and seeing what sticks, but I don't understand this one. If the game was $60 to play, they would have already gotten their money out of the kid. would see her point; they get $60 whether the kid cheated or not. However, this is free-to-play, which means they're only getting money on microtransactions. The players aren't going to want to keep coming back and buying in-game items when the game is full of cheaters. The health and stability of the game is the potential for profit. One person cheating does cause loss of profits from other potential buyers, but I suppose proving a specific amount would be difficult.


ah but Activision has a patent where they match-make people who haven't bought loot boxes against people who have better weapons, in order to incite players to buy lootboxes. So you could argue that this cheating kid is making players want to buy boxes so they can get better.


And then you can argue that the players learn their purchases are ineffective because of the cheaters and decide to stop playing.
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Go_Totodile
11/29/17 12:43:44 AM
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Is this the same company that sued a bunch of Steam users for calling their game shit?
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FellWolf
11/29/17 12:49:11 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
Mead posted...
I like that game. My tactic is to always find a small hut or shed and hide in it for as long as possible. Let all the good players sort each other out.


You find a good gun. Find the circle. Hide in a bush/tree until it moves.

Game was cool until I got 1st the first time. Now it's just like why am I playing


Boring af. Like you said what's the point. Have fun with your hiding simulator. It's a lot more fun if you seek fights. You will also get better at the game that way. Instead of doing nothing and being like "woo... Got too 10 haHAA"
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Ferarri619
11/29/17 12:52:41 AM
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Go_Totodile posted...
Is this the same company that sued a bunch of Steam users for calling their game shit?


That was Digital Homicide, an indie studio that made terrible games with re-used assets.

This is Epic Games, developers of all the Unreal Tournament games, Gears of War, etc.
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Mead
11/29/17 1:31:36 AM
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FellWolf posted...
Have fun with your hiding simulator


Thanks!
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SmokeMassTree
11/29/17 2:03:54 AM
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FellWolf posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
Mead posted...
I like that game. My tactic is to always find a small hut or shed and hide in it for as long as possible. Let all the good players sort each other out.


You find a good gun. Find the circle. Hide in a bush/tree until it moves.

Game was cool until I got 1st the first time. Now it's just like why am I playing


Boring af. Like you said what's the point. Have fun with your hiding simulator. It's a lot more fun if you seek fights. You will also get better at the game that way. Instead of doing nothing and being like "woo... Got too 10 haHAA"


If you seek fights you get shot in the back from some asshole hiding in a bush.

Much better to be that asshole
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Lokarin
11/29/17 3:56:04 AM
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I'ma sue anyone who cheats at Monopoly
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DeltaBladeX
11/29/17 4:25:53 AM
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Is this the same story I heard about recently on Imgur where they kept getting banned for it and just making new accounts over and over?
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Mead
11/29/17 4:33:07 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I'ma sue anyone who cheats at Monopoly


If you dont Ill give you two railroads
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Lokarin
11/29/17 7:19:52 AM
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Mead posted...
Lokarin posted...
I'ma sue anyone who cheats at Monopoly


If you dont Ill give you two railroads


Chess is a lot easier if you have 4 queens
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shadowsword87
11/29/17 10:51:01 AM
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DeltaBladeX posted...
Is this the same story I heard about recently on Imgur where they kept getting banned for it and just making new accounts over and over?


Yeah, over 10 times.
Also he would make YouTube videos explaining how to cheat, showing the websites, and showing how to install the game as well as videos of him cheating.
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-Komaiko54-
11/29/17 10:55:00 AM
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Mead posted...
I like that game. My tactic is to always find a small hut or shed and hide in it for as long as possible. Let all the good players sort each other out.


I like building a massive for in squad

There was a time where me and three randos stuck together and built a giant fort on the island in the middle of the sea and it was fucking intense
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Nade Duck
11/29/17 6:57:21 PM
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GanonsSpirit posted...
Ferarri619 posted...
Nade Duck posted...
can this fad die already


What fad? O_o

Happiness, I assume.

the genre, actually. i don't really hate it or think it's shitty like MOBAs are, but i'm tired of seeing it everywhere.
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GanonsSpirit
11/29/17 10:38:07 PM
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Well I still want the happiness fad to die.
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VeeVees
11/29/17 11:23:30 PM
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They are not suing that scumbag for cheating. The only option is to sue because that piece of shit counterclaimed the DMCA.
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