Board 8 > Gal Gadot refuses to do Wonder Woman 2 if her demands are not met.

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http://m.ign.com/articles/2017/11/12/wonder-woman-2-gal-gadot-reportedly-wont-return-unless-studio-buys-out-producer-brett-ratner

This seems like a no brainer choice for the studio.

While I do admire Gal Gadot standing up against someone who is sexually assaulting women, I do really worry of what is happening to the American legal process. What has happened to the assumption of innocent until proven guilty?

I mean, the guy is probably not innocent here, but... What if he is?

I also wonder how much of what is going on is just crude joking around that people are pushing as assault now.

We were talking about this at work the other day that some of what is being called sexual assault that we could say our bosses, who are male, are sexually assaulting us and everyone laughed.

For example, I asked about training on the highest job in the plant and was told I better get my ass under the desk if I thought that was happening. Is this a joke or sexual assault? I would say a joke.

That said, that was a tangent as my example has nothing at all to do with the allegations made against Rather. I am just wondering if taking people's jobs and such for unconvicted allegations is going too far.
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What has happened to the assumption of innocent until proven guilty?

that only ever applied to the actual legal system. People have been making their own non-legal judgements forever.

it's not like people were suddenly excited to be in a room with OJ Simpson and a knife after he was aquitted.

were talking about this at work the other day that some of what is being called sexual assault that we could say our bosses, who are male, are sexually assaulting us and everyone laughed.

also that would maybe be some kind of sexual misconduct or something, or just inappropriate, but not actually sexual assault. Sexual assault is... assault.
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Perhaps that should say harassment instead of assault, though it seems everyone is lumping it all together at this point anymore.
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They should find some no-name actress who looks like Gal Gadot, offer her good money for the role, and have her legally change her name to Gal Gadot as part of the contract.
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No Gal Gadot, no ticket for me. If they replace her I doubt very many women will show up for Wonder Woman 2, and there goes your box office revenue.
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This would probably rescue the movie given what a shitty director Brett Ratner is
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Considering it's multiple allegations and the studio has already cut ties with him, this isn't really that much of a demand in terms of ethics. It's just a matter of whether they pay him the contract.
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Corrik posted...

, I do really worry of what is happening to the American legal process

WTF does any of this have to do with the legal process?
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Then write her off and find someone else.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

, I do really worry of what is happening to the American legal process

WTF does any of this have to do with the legal process?

...
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It's a pretty basic question.
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Brett Ratner is literally a fucking joke and has already been cut loose for future projects, these demands are basically just for show. Certainly not controvertial.
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TomNook posted...

They should find some no-name actress who looks like Gal Gadot, offer her good money for the role, and have her legally change her name to Gal Gadot as part of the contract.

That's not how the SAG works. According to SAG rules, nobody can ever have the name Gal Gadot in a movie aside from her.
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Corrik posted...

What has happened to the assumption of innocent until proven guilty?

It was forgotten by the American legal process hundreds of years ago to allow rich elite abusers go free

The system was working great until now, but I'm not sure why you're so sad that these people are finally being punished
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Corrik posted...

For example, I asked about training on the highest job in the plant and was told I better get my ass under the desk if I thought that was happening. Is this a joke or sexual assault? I would say a joke.

That's really fucking bad and inappropriate and definitely sexual harassment and it's insane that you not only accept it as okay, you're ENCOURAGING other people to do stuff like this. Bosses, who are in an unbalanced position of power.

Why do you value sexual harassment so much? Can't we just stop this shit? What makes sexual harassment so essential to society in your mind?

How far does it go? Is groping and slapping your ass also "just a joke"? What about whipping your dick out? You are literally the problem here.
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fair, next
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Corrik posted...

I mean, the guy is probably not innocent here, but... What if he is?

Nothing. This would mean nothing. We're talking about an industry where actors are denied work all the time simply because someone in the production doesn't like them and casting has never been based on merit. In the same way that women have been blacklisted for having a reputation of being difficult to work with (also with no proof or conviction) women are now able to use their power and say they don't want to work with abusers. This isn't setting a new precedent as much as it's shifting the power balance.
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Soon all men will be locked underground and sold as slaves when the femnazis take America
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We'll be milked for our semen and our jokes!
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They'll fold to her demands. Wonder Woman is the only critical successful DCEU film so far, and even if Justice League succeeds, it will be partly because of Wonder Woman.
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What I don't understand about this sexual harassment revelation with hollywood is why are Trump's allegations being ignored?

The dude literally confessed on tape for the whole world for crying out loud and yet everyone immediately freaks and judges when another popular figure is even just "rumored". >_>

While I don't think the real scenarios including harassment should be ignored... these "exposure" claims are simply on the fine line of "personal" tolerance aren't they?

I mean, I've had girls flash their breasts at me before and I never had the urge to sue someone over it. Seen plenty of exposed d***s too before anyone tries to argue a gender factor here.

Anyway, yeah I dunno. I say if we are gonna condemn and prosecute these folks for their sexually deviant transgressions then we should make the example and start at the top with our Pervert-in-chief.
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Se7enthrust posted...

The dude literally confessed on tape for the whole world for crying out loud and yet everyone immediately freaks and judges when another popular figure is even just "rumored". >_>

Believe it or not, not everyone has seen that tape. Fox obviously didn't air it. My grandparents had no idea what i was talking about when i brought it up a few months ago.
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Se7enthrust posted...

What I don't understand about this sexual harassment revelation with hollywood is why are Trump's allegations being ignored?

The dude literally confessed on tape for the whole world for crying out loud and yet everyone immediately freaks and judges when another popular figure is even just "rumored". >_>

While I don't think the real scenarios including harassment should be ignored... these "exposure" claims are simply on the fine line of "personal" tolerance aren't they?

I mean, I've had girls flash their breasts at me before and I never had the urge to sue someone over it. Seen plenty of exposed d***s too before anyone tries to argue a gender factor here.

Anyway, yeah I dunno. I say if we are gonna condemn and prosecute these folks for their sexually deviant transgressions then we should make the example and start at the top with our Pervert-in-chief.

President Trump did not admit to it actually.

Though the fact that in this day and age that it did not bury him is still amazing. I think he actually gained women vote after that ordeal which even more amazing.
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Topic title wording is so funny.

Like some terrorist-hostage situation.
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pjbasis posted...

Topic title wording is so funny.

Like some terrorist-hostage situation.

Was trying to make it all strong and feminine like Wonder Woman! Lol
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Corrik posted...

President Trump did not admit to it actually.

Though the fact that in this day and age that it did not bury him is still amazing. I think he actually gained women vote after that ordeal which even more amazing.

So you are dismissing all of the allegations against him just because he says he didn't do it?

And you're wrong btw. He literally said "I grab them by the p*****"

Also:

Trump: "I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. Ill admit it."
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Se7enthrust posted...

Corrik posted...

President Trump did not admit to it actually.

Though the fact that in this day and age that it did not bury him is still amazing. I think he actually gained women vote after that ordeal which even more amazing.

So you are dismissing all of the allegations against him just because he says he didn't do it?

And you're wrong btw. He literally said "I grab them by the p*****"

Also:

Trump: "I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. Ill admit it."

Which girl came out and said "Trump grabbed me by the pussy?". See by his own "admission" as you call it, he never admitted to doing it.

That said, if there was any actual solid proof there then it would have probably came out definitively. You had every armchair Democrat and Democratic legal authority in the world trying to solidify that.

It didn't help that they were trying to push a false rape narrative of an underaged girl story about Trump at the same time which ended up being entirely fictitious.

If you believe Trump did that, then I respect that opinion. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. However, it was never proven or confessed to.
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Se7enthrust posted...

Corrik posted...

President Trump did not admit to it actually.

Though the fact that in this day and age that it did not bury him is still amazing. I think he actually gained women vote after that ordeal which even more amazing.

So you are dismissing all of the allegations against him just because he says he didn't do it?

And you're wrong btw. He literally said "I grab them by the p*****"

Also:

Trump: "I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. Ill admit it."

I'm
Dismissing them because they are utter bullshit had nothing to back them up and became a complete non story once the election was over...

Also making a move on someone isn't sexual assault, or harassment, or really anything unless they tell you not interested. You can hit on girls. It isn't illegal. You just need to know when to cut and run. And apparently he did. He said he failed....

@Se7enthrust

One last comment then going back on topic because I do not want politics mucking things up.

How do you personally feel that the tape you are referring to regarding Bush and Trump was in their possession all along. That they stated they knew they had the tape and that they purposely sat on the tape during the primaries.

Now it was news during the primary also if they had released it. And maybe costs him the nomination.

However, if you couple it with the Democrat pied Piper strategy and the left media trying to push Trump as the nominee, it is very easy to read between the lines that the Left wanted Trump as the nominee because they had that bombshell to drop at any time to ensure a Democratic Presidency.

The fact they purposely wanted a man you view as a pervert in the nominee slot as one of 2 real options to be president at the risk of letting a pervert in office... Does that say something about the left itself? They were willing to possibly turn their country over to someone who was truly so vile in attempt to set up the election for their preferred candidate?

You have to ask yourself about that.
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I can't really understand what you guys are defending here but I'm just gonna bow out of this argument.

You love your Trump apparently and I'm not gonna change your mind.

Dude is a total sexual deviant though and he probably molested his children too. I've seen far too many inappropriate pictures of him and Ivanka to not believe otherwise.

It's totally disgusting.
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That seems like a hell of a unsubstantiated opinion, but you are entitled to it.

I am pretty on the record of not being thrilled with Trump's presidency also. So, not really "loving" Trump.

Anyways, back to Gal Gadot and Wonder Woman.
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Honestly, I fully support getting rid of Brett Ratner from any studio, and it has nothing to do with his extracurricular mishaps.
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I have no idea who it is.
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She's totally grandstanding by the way (very liberal thing to do).

As has been pointed out already dude is 100% done, but she wants to have taken outrage and morals so she can claim "I took a stand for all women" which is great, except you didn't. Everyone is already cutting bait on him...

If she goes and outs someone we didn't already hear about then we can talk.

This is the perfect excuse to replace her.
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Corrik posted...

That seems like a hell of a unsubstantiated opinion, but you are entitled to it.

Neither. I just know that I wouldn't have my daughter riding my lap like a newlywed know what I mean?
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Well, the thing is... If they did not replace him, would she have actually left? I mean, I guess she is pot committed at this point (and as MWC said probably did so because the die was already cast), but besides a side character in FF series, this is her breakthrough role.

Would she have actually left it? I dunno.
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Corrik posted...

I have no idea who it is.

He directed X-Men: The Last Stand. That should be a death sentence in Hollywood.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

I have no idea who it is.

He directed X-Men: The Last Stand. That should be a death sentence in Hollywood.

Many a director made worse and still gets movie gigs lol
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Corrik posted...

Well, the thing is... If they did not replace him, would she have actually left? I mean, I guess she is pot committed at this point (and as MWC said probably did so because the die was already cast), but besides a side character in FF series, this is her breakthrough role.

Would she have actually left it? I dunno.

No, she would not have. If the studio for some reason called her bluff she would 100% stay and just ignore it every time someone brought it up. Or better yet, lie and say those were just rumors and now that we have more information Rattner was fine.

Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

I have no idea who it is.

He directed X-Men: The Last Stand. That should be a death sentence in Hollywood.

Many a director made worse and still gets movie gigs lol

Not many directors dressed the Juggernaut in a penis costume.
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Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

I have no idea who it is.

He directed X-Men: The Last Stand. That should be a death sentence in Hollywood.

Many a director made worse and still gets movie gigs lol

I actually can't think of many who made worse.... cause I c
Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Corrik posted...

I have no idea who it is.

He directed X-Men: The Last Stand. That should be a death sentence in Hollywood.

Many a director made worse and still gets movie gigs lol

I actually can't think of many who made worse... mainly cause I can't think of many worse large budget movies ever...

Hasn't Ratner been accused of rape and masturbatinf in front of wome? I don't think that is comparable to Corrik's example in the first post.
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Although, to be fairn to Rat for last stand..... Halle Berry fucked it up much more than he did. (Given what we know about Rat and Halle's non existent morals, I'm
Guessing she slept with him)

Isn't Eli Roth like the go to for shitty movies?
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Corrik posted...

Isn't Eli Roth like the go to for shitty movies?

You misspelled M Night...

Corrik posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

, I do really worry of what is happening to the American legal process

WTF does any of this have to do with the legal process?

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Still waiting on this answer
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Halle Berry did not fuck up X-Men 3. Halle Berry did not take chainsaw to the script and throw in a ton of new mutants with zero charisma. Halle Berry did not try to tell the most overrated X-Men story of all time and end the threat by making it look like a jobber. Halle Berry was just a boring character in the entire trilogy; hell, she hardly made an impact in X3.
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Corrik posted...

Isn't Eli Roth like the go to for shitty movies?

Eli Roth isn't a top tier Hollywood director given massive budgets. Eli Roth just knows a guy; he has minimal impact on major studios.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Halle Berry did not fuck up X-Men 3. Halle Berry did not take chainsaw to the script and throw in a ton of new mutants with zero charisma. Halle Berry did not try to tell the most overrated X-Men story of all time and end the threat by making it look like a jobber. Halle Berry was just a boring character in the entire trilogy; hell, she hardly made an impact in X3.

What the fuck is wrong with you....

DARK FUCKING PHOENIX????!!!