Poll of the Day > I feel like the sexual harassment allegations are getting out of hand

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I understand that most are very bad and there should be consequences for them. Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex. Are we calling that sexual harassment now? Is the goal to get people to stop fucking cause lol that's not gonna happen.
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When Fred Rogers or Bob Ross start piling up accusations, it's all over.

Did you proposition some poor GameFAQs user back in the day and now fear it'll come to light? Because you sound nervous.
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It does seem a bit crazy. Some if this happened a long time ago. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong I just question why all of a sudden this is coming up now.
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Exactly. This is why my boy Louis ck and Chris savino are innocent
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SmokeMassTree posted...

I understand that most are very bad and there should be consequences for them. Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex. Are we calling that sexual harassment now? Is the goal to get people to stop fucking cause lol that's not gonna happen.

Except the ones who are in big trouble repeatedly groped and forced themselves onto people who didn't want it.

Look at Jeremy Piven. He held a woman down and then came all over her sweater.

LCK stripped down and jerked it in front of people he had power over.

Spacey was... Spacey

What examples are you bringing up where the harassment claim was "he just asked her if she just wanted to have sex."
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mipond posted...

I just question why all of a sudden this is coming up now.

Because it's a matter that, for many years, victims have been strongly pressured not to talk about. In the wake of people starting to talk about it, though, everyone is starting to feel more comfortable fighting back against that pressure and breaking that silence, and you've got a whole lot of people sharing their stories.

SmokeMassTree posted...

Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex. Are we calling that sexual harassment now?

If it's from someone in a position of power, potentially. There's definitely an established norm wherein turning down a director's advance can cost you the job and result in an influential person badmouthing you to the rest of the industry. There's ample precedent of exactly that happening, such that those fears are pretty well-founded. To that end, anyone who is in a position of power needs to be very careful about how they approach subordinates that they want to sleep with. That's one of the responsibilities of having that kind of power. That abuse of power is the actual problem, and what needs to stop, but until it stops it's important for everyone in such a position to recognize the potential for intimidation there and ensure that any sexual activity they engage in is fully consensual.
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mipond posted...

It does seem a bit crazy. Some if this happened a long time ago. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong I just question why all of a sudden this is coming up now.

You really underestimate what the fear of your career being over can do to people.
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-Komaiko54- posted...

Exactly. This is why my boy Louis ck and Chris savino are innocent

Louis ck did whip his dick on front of women but he is owning it, and its louis ck, so whatever.

George Takei just got blamed for some shit in 81 lol
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Questionmarktarius posted...

When Fred Rogers or Bob Ross start piling up accusations, it's all over.

Both of them are long dead though so nobody would really care.
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mipond posted...

It does seem a bit crazy. Some if this happened a long time ago. That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong I just question why all of a sudden this is coming up now.

Often times there's one major outing and it prompts a lot of people to come forward -- in this case it was Harvey Weinstein, who a lot of people in Hollywood have worked with. Similarly, Kevin Spacey's misconduct has been something of an open secret in Hollywood for a long time. These things didn't just randomly start happening, they're a systematic issue in the industry.
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Louis CK's accusers would argue that the allegations are very much 'in hand'
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex.

If the guy was nude or near nude for no conceivable reason while propositioning it, it's pretty fucking valid.
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Zeus posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex.

If the guy was nude or near nude for no conceivable reason while propositioning it, it's pretty fucking valid.

Similarly if it's someone in your industry that can make or break you career it's not just a friendly proposition
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I'd say Louis CKs situation is pretty in-hand

Haha

gravy posted...

I'd say Louis CKs situation is pretty in-hand

Haha

Nice.

Its one of those things where if no crime is committed, no conviction will happen. For whatever reason though, sexual assault allegations, even when disproven, have a tendency to linger. I think its partly because its just the most culturally offensive crime.
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faramir77 posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

When Fred Rogers or Bob Ross start piling up accusations, it's all over.

Both of them are long dead though so nobody would really care.

That didn't help Jimmy Savile much.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

I think its partly because its just the most culturally offensive crime.

I think it's just cause people are idiots.
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i feel like there's a joke in the title somewhere
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Doctor Foxx posted...

Zeus posted...

SmokeMassTree posted...

Some of them tho just feel like propositions for sex.

If the guy was nude or near nude for no conceivable reason while propositioning it, it's pretty fucking valid.

Similarly if it's someone in your industry that can make or break you career it's not just a friendly proposition

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SmokeMassTree posted...

I understand that most are very bad and there should be consequences for them.

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Bob Parker, "You want that car. Come on tell me how much you want that NEW CAR! I said SAY IT!"
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SmokeMassTree posted...

Is the goal to get people to stop fucking cause lol that's not gonna happen.

I think the goal is to turn every bloke gay tbf.
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Here's a handy-dandy guide for this sort of thing:

Propositioning for sex: Fine.
Propositioning for sex from a position of power: Not fine.
Propositioning a minor who is above the age of consent: Legal, but super-creepy if you are more than five-ish years her senior. See also point above on Propositioning for sex from a position of power.
Propositioning a minor who is not above the age of consent: Very not fine and also illegal.
Forcing yourself on someone for sex: Very not fine, potentially illegal depending on what exactly you're doing.
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