Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 146: Judge Roy Moore

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Seems like the thing to do
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/928734837887954950

After a long pause, Alabama Bibb County Republican chairman Jerry Pow tells me he'd vote for Roy Moore even if Moore did commit a sex crime against a girl.

"I would vote for Judge Moore because I wouldn't want to vote for Doug," he says. "I'm not saying I support what he did."

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Roy Moore was a total scumbag sleaze before the Pedophilia Charges come out. So it's not surprising to see people defending him. As long as he's got the Magic R next to his name.

Principles? Conservatives don't have them.
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I half expect Trump to boast that this proves Luther Strange was the right pick
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A sleazebag said...

"I'm not saying I support what he did."

That's exactly what you're saying, unfortunately.
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I don't get why anyone can't just come out and say "I can't support our nominee, but I also can't support a Democrat so I'll be writing in a vote."

Hell, we'd never know and you'd look like less of a jackass!
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Jakyl25 posted...

I half expect Trump to boast that this proves Luther Strange was the right pick

I agree with whoever predicted it in the last topic that he'll say this if and only if Moore loses
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Ashethan posted...

Roy Moore was a total scumbag sleaze before the Pedophilia Charges come out. So it's not surprising to see people defending him. As long as he's got the Magic R next to his name.

Principles? Conservatives don't have them.

Correct. Even before this story came out, Moore wasn't qualified for City Council, let alone US Senate
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I half expect Trump to boast that this proves Luther Strange was the right pick

I agree with whoever predicted it in the last topic that he'll say this if and only if Moore loses

That'd be me. Trump is successfully hedging his bets. Moore wins? "Another great win for America." Moore loses? "I was right about Strange."

He really doesn't give a shit about losing a Senate seat, he just wants whatever can make him look good.
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TheRock1525 posted...

I don't get why anyone can't just come out and say "I can't support our nominee, but I also can't support a Democrat so I'll be writing in a vote."

Hell, we'd never know and you'd look like less of a jackass!

Because that isn't putting one's party over country, morals, or humanity. Therefore, it's taboo. When these allegations come out against democrats, they're immediately disowned by the left. Against the right? They stand with them. The modern conservative has morals of a flooded septic tank.
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Trump will never admit to backing a loser. there's zero chance he says he backed Strange again.
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TheRock1525 posted...

He really doesn't give a s*** about losing a Senate seat, he just wants whatever can make him look good.

Actually I think he might relish losing the Senate. Then he could have an actual reason to cry about them
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Peace___Frog posted...

When these allegations come out against democrats, they're immediately disowned by the left.

Eh eh eh eh eh...slow your roll here just a bit
People still LOVE Bill
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True enough.
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TheRock1525 posted...

I don't get why anyone can't just come out and say "I can't support our nominee, but I also can't support a Democrat so I'll be writing in a vote."

Because then the Democrat might win, and there's no group of people that Republicans hate more than Democrats.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

When these allegations come out against democrats, they're immediately disowned by the left.

Eh eh eh eh eh...slow your roll here just a bit
People still LOVE Bill

Not as much as they used to, though. I think his general likability rating was down in the lower 50's.
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Tag
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https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/928642559533924354

The Democratic head of Trumps Voter Fraud Commission is suing the Conmission for refusing to let him do his job nonpartisanly
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/928745321236230149

White House senior policy adviser Stephen Miller has been interviewed in special counsels Russia investigation, bringing the probe into Donald Trumps inner circle https://t.co/MTgi9sqQSH https://t.co/pL5BY5rh0w

280 characters at work
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I know plenty of conservatives who don't tow the party line above all else. Hell over half of my conservative friends voted Obama over Romney.

Modern conservative politicians, though, maybe less so.
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http://www.distractify.com/trending/2017/11/08/1xKpUv/robert-marshall-danica-roem-sister

Bob Marshall's sister celebrated her brother's defeat for his homophobic and transphobic stances.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7oqsqYZB00

this is shocking for a doubletalker like Conway
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This is a REALLY REALLY good title pun, Jakyl.
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Thank you
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Kenri posted...

This is a REALLY REALLY good title pun, Jakyl.

Fuck, didn't notice it until you pointed it out

Pretty good!
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https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/11/09/hannity-defends-roy-moore-against-wapo-report-he-molested-child-its-he-said-she-said/218503

HANNITY: How do you possibly tell, know the truth, except -- okay, so, the two other girls were older in this case. He was apparently, like, 32, and he dated -- one girl was 18, one girl was 17, they never said he did -- there was no sexual -- there was kissing involved, and then they're saying this one encounter with a 14 year old --

MCLAUGHLIN: And it was consensual --

HANNITY: And consensual, that's true. And there's, you know -- I just -- I don't know how you find out the truth.

Roy Moore 2017: At Least It Wasn't Rape

Catchy slogan there, guys.
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gotta love adults who say things like "yes, 14 year olds can give sexual consent to adults"

definitely doesn't make my skin crawl and blood boil
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I dont even know what to say at this point.
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It really is quite odd to me that even the people defending Moore are conceding the charges are real.
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Like people just straight up don't care about things that they legit 100% care about when it comes to politics.

What is there to even say
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FWIW I do see a nonzero amount of conservative pundits on Twitter being aghast at these attempts at rationalizing it
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Lopen posted...

I know plenty of conservatives who don't tow the party line above all else. Hell over half of my conservative friends voted Obama over Romney.

My perception on conservatives has probably been colored due to the fact that I've never met one that didn't tow the party line at all costs.

My two cents: moreso than any Trump, or McConnel, or really anything else, FOX News is the most damaging political force in the country. So many people only get their news from it, and it literally (and I mean that in the true sense of the word, not the exaggerated sense) creates an alternate reality for people to live in. Like..when every single other news source is covering a GOP political scandal while FOX headlines an emoji burger storyline, something is fucked up.
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Yes, we live in Roger Ailes utopia
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Tag, sweet title.
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https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/928766875873501184

Moore has historically been very willing to find ways to defend convicted statutory rapists
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Well, probably most conservatives who don't tow the party line, you don't actually know are conservatives. Like my conservative friends who voted Obama, not really super into talking politics. I mean, it will come up from time to time and that's why I know they're conservatives, but yeah, not a lot of fervor.

I think the problem is a lot of em are getting more vocal nowadays and the really vocal ones tend to be those types.
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Wow that is completely disgusting.

"But what if the girls he was abusing were sexually active lesbians" is really NOT a defense what the literal fuck alabama.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Moore has historically been very willing to find ways to defend convicted statutory rapists

Moore has historically been living in the 20's. The 1620's to be exact.
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Lopen posted...

Well, probably most conservatives who don't tow the party line, you don't actually know are conservatives. Like my conservative friends who voted Obama, not really super into talking politics. I mean, it will come up from time to time and that's why I know they're conservatives, but yeah, not a lot of fervor.

I think the problem is a lot of em are getting more vocal nowadays and the really vocal ones tend to be those types.

I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but there have been good number of recent polls conducted where conservatives were asked questions like "do you care if Russia influences the election" and almost half of the responses were "nah". Like you can justify it somewhat for various reasons but it's still insane. The blowback from conservatives if Hillary had been in that position would be astronomical.

The party line towers are definitely more vocal these days, but I also think a lot of more reasonable conservatives are joining that group as well. That's a natural result of the intense partisan climate we live in, but I don't think the liberal side of the coin is anywhere NEAR that bad. If a Democratic canditate was outed as creeping on 14-year old girls, he would be eviscerated by almost all liberals.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Lopen posted...

Well, probably most conservatives who don't tow the party line, you don't actually know are conservatives. Like my conservative friends who voted Obama, not really super into talking politics. I mean, it will come up from time to time and that's why I know they're conservatives, but yeah, not a lot of fervor.

I think the problem is a lot of em are getting more vocal nowadays and the really vocal ones tend to be those types.

I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but there have been good number of recent polls conducted where conservatives were asked questions like "do you care if Russia influences the election" and almost half of the responses were "nah". Like you can justify it somewhat for various reasons but it's still insane. The blowback from conservatives if Hillary had been in that position would be astronomical.

The party line towers are definitely more vocal these days, but I also think a lot of more reasonable conservatives are joining that group as well. That's a natural result of the intense partisan climate we live in, but I don't think the liberal side of the coin is anywhere NEAR that bad. If a Democratic canditate was outed as creeping on 14-year old girls, he would be eviscerated by almost all liberals.

Not very many people defended "Carlos Danger" after all.
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Lopen posted...

I think the problem is a lot of em are getting more vocal nowadays and the really vocal ones tend to be those types.

Thats what I thought, but then Trump won
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Thing about Trump is

I think conservatives across the board hated Hillary. Like, every conservative I've talked to, they're like "I bet you voted Hillary didn't you" and I'm like "nah bro I voted Gary Johnson" and they're like "oh okay that's fair"

I think Trump winning was more a symptom of just what a terrible opponent Hillary was than towing the line.
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Hating Hillary as much as they do is actually a great example itself of towing the party line.
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https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/928821854256627712

This fucking Hannity segment
And that fucking closing line by the woman
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"Lying to make money" could be the Fox News tagline
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Kenri posted...

Hating Hillary as much as they do is actually a great example itself of towing the party line.

Not really, if some of these same people are voting Obama and probably would've voted him (or Bernie) against Trump too.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/928821854256627712

This fucking Hannity segment
And that fucking closing line by the woman

I've noticed Kentucky is full of women that just flat out hate other women, and I thought it was a Kentucky thing

But maybe it's a conservative thing
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"Few and far between"

Wow.

Because most women are just trying to get that sweet, sweet sexual harassment accusation cash $$$$$$$$

It was """interesting""" reading the_donald today, because they are immediately and totally sure that Louis C.K. is sexual predator and fuck that guy and celebrating his career being over, which is good, but then the Roy Moore stuff hit and they were like "no way is this true, the women are lying, you can't rush to judgment, this was planned by the SWAMP etc etc etc" and it couldn't be more obvious their motivations.
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Wow.

Just wow.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/928821854256627712

This fucking Hannity segment
And that fucking closing line by the woman

Fuck these people
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