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Kisai
11/06/17 6:47:40 PM
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On the debate of whether it's "Aeris", or "Aerith, I always supported "Aeris". I know I heard around the web that the Japanese developers had intended on Aeris's name being similar to "Earth", but... I figured, "Aeris" was the name in the original release of FFVII, so that's what I was going to go with. It sounded better, looked better, etc. I was always annoyed at Square's new localization team meddling with her name and changing it to "Aerith"...

Well, today I got the actual Japanese FFVII International, and I was looking through it... And I saw this in the character profiles.

mNBYnbL

I feel like my whole world around me has been shattered. ;_; I don't even know what to think...
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MikeArmstrong
11/06/17 6:49:05 PM
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Aeris or bust
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Mystery_Mission
11/06/17 6:49:59 PM
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I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith
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BLAKUboy
11/06/17 6:50:34 PM
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Congratulations, literally everyone else already knew this.
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BalanceLost
11/06/17 6:50:54 PM
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BLAKUboy
11/06/17 6:50:58 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith

Nostalgia is literally the only reason.
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JE19426
11/06/17 6:51:01 PM
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Yeah, the original release called her Aerith as well.
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Axiom
11/06/17 6:54:10 PM
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Aeris sounds best. Aerith is just a lispy mess
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I Like Toast
11/06/17 6:54:30 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith


https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/82/1430753486282.gif
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NibeIungsnarf
11/06/17 6:54:32 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith

Nostalgia is literally the only reason.

Or you know, that s endings are more delectable to the western tongue than th endings for female names.
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JE19426
11/06/17 6:57:34 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
The change is not official.


So you agree with Aerith being her name.
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spikethedevil
11/06/17 6:57:58 PM
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It is Aerith in literally everything she has appeared in since, it was a translation error ffs.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 6:59:49 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith


https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/82/1430753486282.gif


my friend Keith and Smith should change their name to suit your taste.
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MC_BatCommander
11/06/17 7:00:16 PM
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idk why people make such a big deal about this, she's a mostly generic character that dies 1/3 of the way through the game.
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I Like Toast
11/06/17 7:00:53 PM
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Ricemills posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith


https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/82/1430753486282.gif


my friend Keith and Smith should change their name to suit your taste.

It's impressive how much you failed at using logic
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JE19426
11/06/17 7:01:08 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Aerith was the name in SUBSEQUENT releases of the game in North America.


Sure, but you yourself said the change wasn't official.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 7:01:23 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Ricemills posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith


https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/82/1430753486282.gif


my friend Keith and Smith should change their name to suit your taste.

It's impressive how much you failed at using logic


have a mirror, my friend.
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Kisai
11/06/17 7:01:40 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Congratulations, literally everyone else already knew this.

Everyone knew what was on the Japanese FFVII International?

MikeArmstrong posted...
Aeris or bust

Axiom posted...
Aeris sounds best. Aerith is just a lispy mess

I'm glad some people agree with me on that.

I dunno, maybe FFVII International was released after Square already had their new translation team working on FFVIII? And maybe their translation team told them, "Oh, change it to Aerith in the instruction booklet."

I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"... I mean, this could just be some fake news created by the localization team's propaganda.

It just... It can't be "Aerith". ;_; It sounds so awful...
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I Like Toast
11/06/17 7:02:42 PM
#22:


Ricemills posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Ricemills posted...
I Like Toast posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith


https://i.warosu.org/data/vr/img/0023/82/1430753486282.gif


my friend Keith and Smith should change their name to suit your taste.

It's impressive how much you failed at using logic


have a mirror, my friend.

Don't need one since I didn't make a sweeping claim. You on the other hand, keep digging that hole.
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JE19426
11/06/17 7:02:45 PM
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Kisai posted...
I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"


It did. I already pointed that out.
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spikethedevil
11/06/17 7:03:52 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Kisai posted...
I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"


It did. I already pointed that out.


And everything she has appeared in since has called her Aerith.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 7:04:19 PM
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Kisai posted...
BLAKUboy posted...
Congratulations, literally everyone else already knew this.

Everyone knew what was on the Japanese FFVII International?

MikeArmstrong posted...
Aeris or bust

Axiom posted...
Aeris sounds best. Aerith is just a lispy mess

I'm glad some people agree with me on that.

I dunno, maybe FFVII International was released after Square already had their new translation team working on FFVIII? And maybe their translation team told them, "Oh, change it to Aerith in the instruction booklet."

I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"... I mean, this could just be some fake news created by the localization team's propaganda.

It just... It can't be "Aerith". ;_; It sounds so awful...


it was a mistranslation because japanese vocabulary has no word for -th. that's why the name "smith" is written as "sumisu" and "keith" as "kiisu".
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JE19426
11/06/17 7:04:57 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
And everything she has appeared in since has called her Aerith.


Wrong. The original English release didn't.
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spikethedevil
11/06/17 7:06:07 PM
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JE19426 posted...
spikethedevil posted...
And everything she has appeared in since has called her Aerith.


Wrong. The original English release didn't.


@JE19426 The key word was since as in since the original English release >_>.
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MC_BatCommander
11/06/17 7:06:40 PM
#28:


Kisai posted...
I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"... I mean, this could just be some fake news created by the localization team's propaganda.

It just... It can't be "Aerith". ;_; It sounds so awful...


That is the translation of her name, in Japanese it is Earisu or something, it's supposed to be analogous to Earth.

It's really not that bad, and has literally been that way in all material that came out after the original game. Get over it >_>
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Ricemills
11/06/17 7:07:05 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Ricemills posted...
I Like Toast posted...
It's impressive how much you failed at using logic


have a mirror, my friend.

Don't need one since I didn't make a sweeping claim. You on the other hand, keep digging that hole.


its pretty impressive that people always project their own stupidity towards their opponent.
basic ad hominem shitposting method, always call your opponent stupid to cover up your own instead of defending your point or attacking the point of their post.
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pauIie
11/06/17 7:08:02 PM
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Axiom posted...
Aeris sounds best. Aerith is just a lispy mess


This. I realize it'll probably get changed to the "th" version, and I've accepted it. But I still hope they don't.
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BLAKUboy
11/06/17 7:08:52 PM
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Ricemills posted...
it was a mistranslation because japanese vocabulary has no word for -th. that's why the name "smith" is written as "sumisu" and "keith" as "kiisu".

And Sephiroth is written as Sefirosu.
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JE19426
11/06/17 7:09:08 PM
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spikethedevil posted...

@JE19426 The key word was since as in since the original English release >_>.


Re-read the post you quoted. We were talking about the original Japanese release. The original English release was released afterwards.
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Kisai
11/06/17 7:17:32 PM
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JE19426 posted...
Kisai posted...
I wonder if the original Japanese release still says "Aerith"


It did. I already pointed that out.

Really? I kinda wanna see for myself... It would prove they've been using that name in official materials ever since the first release...

I mean, aside from the English version of FFVII, where even the instruction booklet used the name "Aeris"...
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spikethedevil
11/06/17 7:19:21 PM
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As previously stated Aeris was a translation error.
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I Like Toast
11/06/17 7:54:41 PM
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Ricemills posted...
its pretty impressive that people always project their own stupidity towards their opponent

Irony
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11/06/17 7:57:55 PM
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hollow_shrine
11/06/17 7:58:33 PM
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Kisai posted...
I know I heard around the web that the Japanese developers had intended on Aeris's name being similar to "Earth",...

Exactly, and if you've played the game, the meaning behind that association becomes pretty clear.
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EverDownward
11/06/17 8:00:38 PM
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What really needs to be taken away from this is that Aerith is a natural born thot that is impure and seeks to take Cloud away from the innocent and sweet Tifa.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 8:05:57 PM
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I Like Toast posted...
Ricemills posted...
its pretty impressive that people always project their own stupidity towards their opponent

Irony


thank you for proving my point.
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Kisai
11/06/17 8:08:06 PM
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EverDownward posted...
What really needs to be taken away from this is that Aerith is a natural born thot that is impure and seeks to take Cloud away from the innocent and sweet Tifa.

The only one that's a thot is the one wearing a thot's uniform: Tifa and Yuffie.

Look how Aeris is dressed. She's a good Christian girl, even going to church.

Yeah, that's right, I said Aeris. I still refuse to believe it...
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hollow_shrine
11/06/17 8:12:33 PM
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EverDownward posted...
What really needs to be taken away from this is that Aerith is a natural born thot that is impure and seeks to take Cloud away from the innocent and sweet Tifa.

Tifa is not innocent. She's been trying to seduce Cloud from day one. That pair of "orthopedic underwear" hidden in her drawer is a mis-translation of what was originally underwear that carried the connotation of being slightly too mature for her age (given the flashback, she would have been fifteen or sixteen). What kind of underwear is conspicuously mature for a teenager? Sexy lingerie. Why did she buy the sexy lingerie? Use your eyes sweetie.

That said, Aerith was originally written to have been the more worldly and less delicate of the two, and was openly flirtatious and teasing towards Cloud (even though she wasn't actually interested in him). At least until Square's design team changed hands in the early aughts and they went total Madonna-whore complex. They essentially canonized her as the patron Saint of the Earth, cloying purity, chase love, and wholesome virginal sisterly maturity.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 8:13:01 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
the first time i played FF7 it was the PC port. it was Aerith in that, and there were tons of fixes in the original translation. there was no "This guy are sick." looking back on it i somewhat feel like i missed out lol.


do they censor the "sit down and drink your goddamn tea"? would be disappointing if it is.
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DarkChozoGhost
11/06/17 8:13:38 PM
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Kisai posted...
Yeah, that's right, I said Aeris

All right man, call her Aeris all you want. Most casual fans will agree with you. But just know that you're clinging to a mistranslation, one that was neither first nor used the most.
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Ricemills
11/06/17 8:15:55 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Kisai posted...
Yeah, that's right, I said Aeris

All right man, call her Aeris all you want. Most casual fans will agree with you. But just know that you're clinging to a mistranslation, one that was neither first nor used the most.


i prefer Aerith but i don't mind when people still use Aeris.
the ones who bitches about Aeris is the only correct name tho, can't stand them.
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DezCaughtIt
11/06/17 8:18:15 PM
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Didn't read but #TeamAerith
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EverDownward
11/06/17 8:19:24 PM
#48:


Kisai posted...
Look how Aeris is dressed. She's a good Christian girl, even going to church.

It's a goddamn lie, she plays coy with Cloud the entire time. Meanwhile, Tifa is always there trying to be his friend and being nice. Tifa is a good girl, and Aerith is just a damn thot.

hollow_shrine posted...
Use your eyes sweetie.

Don't call me 'sweetie'
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Darklit_Minuet
11/06/17 8:20:44 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
I don't understand how people think Aeris is better than Aerith

For the same reason Algus is better than Argath
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Ricemills
11/06/17 8:21:41 PM
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EverDownward posted...
Kisai posted...
Look how Aeris is dressed. She's a good Christian girl, even going to church.

It's a goddamn lie, she plays coy with Cloud the entire time. Meanwhile, Tifa is always there trying to be his friend and being nice. Tifa is a good girl, and Aerith is just a damn thot.


iirc "flower peddler" is code name for prostitute in japan, and guess what aerith did when cloud first met her?
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