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Lopen
10/17/17 1:38:02 AM
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If for whatever reason you clicked on this topic and you're unfamiliar, Total Extreme Wrestling 2016 is a simulation game where you take control of a wrestling promotion. You can control the match results, storylines, belts, can buy out companies, pick who you hire and fire, what you pay dudes, all sorts of things.

This time, I'll be running it with a gimmick, though. I'm going to be restricting myself to WWE's real life roster completely. I'll also be using the guys in a vaguely realistic way. That doesn't mean that I won't have ridiculous match results or storylines, cause what fun would that be to not have that kinda stuff, but you won't for instance see Brock Lesnar show up on every Raw to wrestle, because it's clear that's just not going to happen.

Basically, the goal is to try and maximize WWE's potential entirely on using what they have available. I'm also going to try to enforce this as I go along. For instance, Cena took a break after No Mercy, so I plan on giving him perpetual time off after that PPV until he returns in the real world.

I will make some limited exceptions. I'm going to leave it open to hire managers, commentators, personalities, maybe a one time jobber or guest appearance here and there, but the focus of the show will always be the guys who are actually on TV-- just maybe in a completely different way than expected.

In this topic, I'll post some brief write-ups for the shows I write, as well as what scores the game gave me. I'm going to start on September 2016, as No Mercy is kinda what provoked wanting to do this as I think that PPV was horrendously booked (after Summerslam was actually pretty good!). So it'll take a bit to catch up. Current goal is to be caught up by the start of November. So the first bit is going to go at a rather high pace in order to catch up. Expect through No Mercy to be posted by this time tomorrow.

Hopefully it'll be an interesting read for someone, and be sure to tell me when my show is in fact worse than what WWE is giving, somehow. Or you could be nice and praise the good stuff, too!
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Lopen
10/17/17 1:49:38 AM
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Some side info:

Current roster (once updated)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kH56kn_ahzpAfGLskAHTA-apsVCvrqzHotvyMRidlXY/edit?usp=sharing

Uhhh that'll have my roster, once I get it put in there. Help from people more in the know would be appreciated to know exactly what corrections I need to make to make the roster "accurate." For instance apparently Samoa Joe had a minor leg injury and was out for a couple of months after Summerslam-- I did not know this and just thought they felt like ignoring his presence on the show for a while! This sheet when I actually fill it out (in the next bit) should help with the bonus question as well, a bit.

I'm not really gonna do an extensive prediction thing, but having some reader interaction. So I'm going to just have one kinda generalized question per cycle, with the best answers being able to decide something.

Bonus questions where top two will get some sort of prize to be decided before November.
1. Who are the 5 wrestlers (men or women) on my roster that will gain the most popularity by November?
2. Who are the 5 who will lose the most popularity by November?
Tiebreaker: How many title changes will there be by that time.


I'll accept predictions until No Mercy is posted, which should be in a day or two, as until that point I'm just going to be (mostly, with a few exceptions) transcribing show results into TEW form and showing you the scores they got, so it's not going to be terribly unexpected. It'll serve as a good idea of what ratings shows will get. I expect bad as this mod (TheWho87's real world updates) seems kinda harsh.
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Lopen
10/17/17 2:14:21 AM
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Alright. I need to manually edit the card because autopush has all sorts of wacky stuff cause the roster is so bloated, so card position will come later. Just assume the popularity values are mostly accurate as the mod seems on with that, though the main eventer types tend to have around 70 popularity and the lower cards have around 30 popularity if you want a range they tend to fall in.

It probably sucks cause I never use google sheets but it's not like there's a ton of info there

Obvious first issues with the roster:

- Jim Ross is employed for some reason. This isn't true, is it? He's not in some wacky backstage role I don't know about right.
- Chris Jericho is employed as a full time guy. I'm going to renegotiate his contract to some super part time thing and only use him as applicable.
- John Cena and Maryse will be gone indefinitely after the appropriate time in the month. And Samoa Joe will be on leave until he comes back despite showing as uninjured here.
- Kane can return a bit earlier if I want him to.
- Bella twins are usable but that's probably inaccurate
- Not sure what to do about Neville. I guess I'll make him walk out even if my booking for him is better but it's unfortunate.

Those are the only obvious ones I see.
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 2:46:36 AM
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Lopen posted...
Jim Ross is employed for some reason. This isn't true, is it? He's not in some wacky backstage role I don't know about right.

He IS employed. He's been doing Takeovers.

Lopen posted...
Neville. I guess I'll make him walk out even if my booking for him is better but it's unfortunate.

You should keep him if you're not going to have him lose to Enzo on RAW.
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Lopen
10/17/17 2:47:45 AM
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Oh... seriously? Cool.

Why the hell isn't he on Raw again.
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 2:48:07 AM
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Vince thinks he's too old.
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10/17/17 2:48:07 AM
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Lopen
10/17/17 3:00:31 AM
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Oh and random changes I made to the product that won't be obvious but should be said.

- Women went from Division to Integrated. Functionally this won't actually change anything except in very rare situations-- not going to turn this into Lucha Underground or anything, but I like having women autopush to card positions, and having an option for a non-tepid mixed tag or something once in a great while isn't a bad idea either.

- Modern from Very Low to Medium. Basically to put it in wrestling terms Modern is the "X-Division" stat in the product. I didn't want to go too far with it but I think this'll give the Cruiserweights the ability to actually... be different. (Fun fact the product dings the Aerial stat with the WWE product set to its defaults. Accurate! Goes away with this in any case.)

Managed both of those without taking a popularity hit so yay.
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Eddv
10/17/17 4:19:39 AM
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Will you be firing people who are irl fired? Like Neville?

Tiebreaker: How many title changes will there be by that time. 3
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Tom Bombadil
10/17/17 6:49:49 AM
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oh good idea on the google doc

predictions for this would require me to have paid any attention to recent wwe so /shrug
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10/17/17 8:04:12 AM
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Lopen
10/17/17 11:38:15 AM
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Not necessarily. It's more like guessing at what guys I'm going to push and bury.

That being said it looks like no one is interested in even going with that. I'll try to make the next bonus more interesting I guess.

And I dunno if I'm going to fire Neville. Scarlet said I shouldn't and it makes some sense as obviously I'm not going to book Enzo to retain against him in a random meaningless title match on Raw (if I even have Enzo win it at all). I don't want to veer too far off from the actual roster but just having Neville different probably won't make a huge difference.
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 11:40:54 AM
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I will vote, I've just not had a chance to look at the roster first.

Anyways, I also want to just throw in my two cents - I think it's cool you want to work with what you've got, but I also think that one decision you can reasonably make is to not fire people if/when WWE does. It's fair to assume you aren't the psychopath that Vince McMahon is at the helm of the company. So, if Vince fires AJ tomorrow because he doesn't like AJ's pants, you shouldn't feel beholden to that as well.
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Dantezoid
10/17/17 12:00:39 PM
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When do you want guesses in

I can do some tonight probably
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Lopen
10/17/17 12:01:59 PM
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Yeah. Not having Neville would make booking a relevant Cruiserweight Division really difficult anyway

True story I wrote down everything I could about the current one. I left out Neville, Tozawa, Swann, as I felt they had enough character to be appealing as is if they got time.

Ariya Daivari - Not to be confused with Delavar
Cedric Alexander - Lumbar Check
Drew Gulak - Who is this.
Gran Metalik - Generic Lucha?
Jack Gallagher - Conan. Does headbutts.
Lince Dorado - A cat?
Mustafa Ali - Who is this.
Noam Dar - Alicia FAWKS
TJP - Max Health.

Clearly I need to watch more 205 Live, but who could possibly want to when this is what I know about the cast.
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Dantezoid
10/17/17 12:02:38 PM
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I'll also throw in that if the game does random ffd violations you could be forced to lose people real wwe isnt forced to lose, so I agree with scarlet that you shouldn't try to match it 100% no matter what.
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Lopen
10/17/17 12:03:22 PM
#17:


Let's drop the guesses to 3 on each side to make it less of a pain to bother

And yeah guesses due when I get No Mercy up, which is probably late tonight

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Eddv
10/17/17 2:36:11 PM
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1. Who are the 5 wrestlers (men or women) on my roster that will gain the most popularity by November?
Neville
Braun Stroman
3. The Miz

2. Who are the 5 who will lose the most popularity by November?
Wyatt
THE DEMON Finn Balor
Roman Reigns

Tiebreaker: How many title changes will there be by that time.

2
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Tom Bombadil
10/17/17 2:40:44 PM
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So this is for after you take over from the real world? Then uh

Gain most:
Cesaro
Sheamus
BRAUN

Lose most:
Jinder Mahal
Roman Reigns
Enzo

Tiebreaker: 1
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 2:43:30 PM
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1. Who are the 5 wrestlers (men or women) on my roster that will gain the most popularity by November?
-Neville
-Rusev
-The Usos

2. Who are the 5 who will lose the most popularity by November?
-Randy Orton
-Jinder Mahal
-Enzo Amore

Tiebreaker: How many title changes will there be by that time. 2.5
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Lopen
10/17/17 2:44:01 PM
#21:


Technically I'm going to be leaving WWE Raw on (mostly-- I will be making small tweaks which I'll note after the very brief write-ups for those shows) autopilot till No Mercy, and Smackdown on mostly autopilot till Hell in the Cell, but yeah, everything beyond and including those two will be what changes I make.

So if you think someone is going to gain or lose a lot based on what WWE gave us in this month that might have an impact too! But it should be mostly mine

Of course with the way TEW works I may bury a guy and his overness may go up so you never know.
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scarletspeed7
10/17/17 2:45:46 PM
#22:


Lopen to discover how to get Roman over confirmed.
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Panthera
10/17/17 4:13:26 PM
#23:


Does TEW account for crowds getting sick of having guys shoved down their throats too much (the Reigns effect)? If so we can clearly expect Miz and Strowman to lose popularity when Lopen is in charge!
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Tom Bombadil
10/17/17 4:20:57 PM
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Cult-ish crowds (not WWE) will bury guys who suck, and you're penalized for overusing somebody relative to their popularity. WWE MIGHT get dinged for Reigns, depending on the mod, but it is more often an issue when you're trying to push a jobber ...so, Jinder Mahal
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Lopen
10/17/17 5:24:06 PM
#25:


I expect Reigns to get dinged in general when I'm running the initial WWE, as this mod is fairly conservative with popularities in general. Roman is only 75% in the US I think.

I don't really expect to use Miz or Strowman any more than WWE does though-- I'm just going to use them better. They both get a lot of TV time as is!
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Panthera
10/17/17 5:25:59 PM
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You'll crack and start having episodes where Miz is in every segment soon enough
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Lopen
10/17/17 5:27:10 PM
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Truly, Miz TV will become a reality
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eaedwards6400
10/17/17 5:44:53 PM
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Neville
BRAUN
Bobby

Finn Balor
Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
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X_Dante_X
10/17/17 8:37:51 PM
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gain:

bo dallas
heath slater
paige

lose:

brock lesnar
jinder mahal
seth rollins
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Lopen
10/17/17 8:46:10 PM
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Paige is injured till January Dante so probably not!
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TheKnightOfNee
10/17/17 8:57:57 PM
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gain
rusev
cesaro
luke harper

lose
baron corbin
jinder mahal
randy orton
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X_Dante_X
10/17/17 9:02:46 PM
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wow i read somewhere she would start back, what an unreliable source
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Lopen
10/17/17 9:03:01 PM
#33:


@X_Dante_X I suppose I could use that.

I would hate to see a ROBBERY and there may only be a few more hours to see it naturally !!
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Lopen
10/17/17 9:03:26 PM
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Wow these @s were UNNEEDED
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X_Dante_X
10/17/17 9:04:53 PM
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apparently my source was wikipedia, how untrustworthy

gain:

bo dallas
heath slater
paige the miz

lose:

brock lesnar
jinder mahal
seth rollins
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Lopen
10/17/17 9:09:26 PM
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Well maybe Wikipedia is right and this mod is wrong but time will tell!
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10/17/17 9:10:53 PM
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all i'm saying is i have faith you would take paige under your wing and with a completely blank slate mold her into superstardom
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Lopen
10/18/17 2:02:18 AM
#38:


Translating these to WWE shows takes a bit longer than expected-- frankly it hardly saves any time over doing my own original show. Also WWE Main Event exists, and I got started later than I wanted to.

Only getting 1/3 the way to No Mercy tonight as I need to go to sleep. Prediction contest still closed though. Too many hintz in these barebones write-ups (they'll get a bit more liberal when I'm not mostly just repeating what's on the show), as few liberties as I've taken.

RAW Week 1 September 2017

Cena defeats Jason Jordan. (48) (Awful chemistry)
Roman taunts Cena about taking too long beating Jordan, punk ass bitch, etc. (79)
Cesaro & Sheamus d. Apollo Crews and Titus O'Neil (58) (Titus needs a new gimmick)
Heyman talks crap about Strowman on behalf of his client, Strowman faces down Lesnar (85) (good chem for Brock/Heyman)
Miz d. Jeff Hardy to retain (66) (good chem for Maryse/Miz)
Miz gloats to Kurt Angle (79)
Enzo, Cedric Alexander, and Gran Metalik d. Noam Dar, Tony Nese, and Drew Gulak (47)
LOOK WWE HELPED OLD WOMAN CROSS STREET BROTHER (60)
Bray Wyatt talks some chumba wumba to Finn Balor. Balor accepts the match I guess. (82)
Nia Jax and Emma d. Alexa Bliss and Sasha Banks (40)
Emma celebrates excessively while Nia seems annoyed (44)
LOOK WWE IS HELPING SUSAN G KOMEN BROTHER (62)
Ambrose & Rollins d. Gallows & Anderson (75) (good chemistry for both teams)
Strowman d. Big Show (Cage) (56)
BRAUGHHHH throws Show through Cage (78)

Rating: 64. Lost popularity in 24 regions. NOT ENOUGH INTERESTING STORYLINES. I AGREE. (this penalty probably goes away with Smackdown as I think the SD storylines should bring me to where I need to be there, but who knows)

Seth Rollins says "Nia Jax can't sell anything worth a damn in my opinion, she needs to learn how to work."
Sheamus says "Emma is too small, you should release the kid and find someone better."
Dash Wilder agrees with Sheamus
Many people upset about being in development
Many networks upset about show quality

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Only change I made for this show was I swapped the first tag match from Cesaro & Sheamus d. Slater and Rhyno to them d. Crews & Titus. Also I may have added some angles with Lesnar/Strowman, Miz -- WWE.com recap was clearly missing some stuff and I needed more angles. I added pointless self promotion videos to fill that out as well as you can see.
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Lopen
10/18/17 2:19:56 AM
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Smackdown Week 1 September 2017

Owens does the YOUR FAMILY WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF YOU HAD DIED IN THAT PLANE CRASH promo to Shane. Shane swings at bees flying around Kevin Owens's head and Owens sells. (75)
Owens is livid backstage, tells Renee Young he will sue for this violence. (65)
Natalya d. Carmella when Ellsworth is an idiot with the case (36)
Sami Zayn d. Aiden English. Aiden English looks strong in defeat (54) (great chemistry!)
WWE IS AN AMAZING COMPANY AND DESERVES PRAISE FOR ITS WORK AT THIS HOMELESS SHELTER (60)
It is with great remorse, Bryan announces Shane has been suspended (68)
Baron Corbin d. Tye Dillinger to get a title shot against AJ next week I think (52) (Road Dogg is excited that Tye Dillinger got equipped with A HOPE SPOT and will have BETTER PSYCHOLOGY)
Randy Orton and Nakamura hype tonight's match for a shot at Jinder's title (90)
Carmella slaps Ellsworth, then makes out with him. No this isn't my storyline this happened. (42) (Ellsworth's Lackey (Comedy) gimmick gets an Above Average rating)
Orton vs Nakamura. Good long match, with Nakamura looking like he has it... then JINDER AND GOONS ATTACK BOTH OF THEM FOR THE NO CONTEST. WHO WILL FACE HIM NOW!? (71)

Rating: 68. Lost popularity in some regions, gained in others. NOT ENOUGH INTERESTING STORYLINES. OH NO.

Changes I made

Nakamura originally just won the last match and went on to have a title match with Jinder. I'm slightly changing how this pans out.
Zayn d. English instead of the reverse cause I don't want Zayn to lose to some random jobber dude, even if he is a geek right now.
Ziggler is not doing his terrible ripped off entrances, instead just not being on the show at all. This is an improvement.
And videos for filler. Not that that's even entirely inaccurate.

Still can't get 3 storylines with 80 heat. Time to fall down to national before I even book my own show who's hyped. (I'm not sure whether I agree this mod is accurate and WWE should be declining by default, or it's too harsh, guess we'll see!)
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scarletspeed7
10/18/17 3:28:32 AM
#40:


Lopen posted...
LOOK WWE IS HELPING SUSAN G KOMEN BROTHER

Should have sprang for a good charity, would've netted you 2 more points.
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10/18/17 8:31:32 AM
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Brother? Is Hogan doing these commercials? Lol
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10/18/17 1:19:04 PM
#42:


Lopen posted...
Drew Gulak - Who is this.

I feel like you might enjoy his current gimmick so you should check that out.

My understanding is that he is trying to save the cruiserweights from themselves by encouraging safer wrestling styles and trying to get everyone to stop doing hi-risk moves.

Also he is doing it like a local politician.
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Lopen
10/18/17 3:57:22 PM
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Ohhh okay that guy. Right. I only know who he is cause he's the guy in the suit, and because Bryan & Vinny have complained about his terrible 10 minute promos.
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10/18/17 5:27:20 PM
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To be fair, Bryan and Vinny hate everything.
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Corrik
10/18/17 7:21:02 PM
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1.
Enzo
Balor
Owens

2.
Jericho
Kane
Bray Wyatt

3. 4
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10/18/17 8:08:22 PM
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Sheamus says "Emma is too small, you should release the kid and find someone better."


Wow it's not the size it's how you use it dude
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10/19/17 1:09:52 AM
#47:


None today. 2-5 shows tomorrow, depending on how early I start.
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10/19/17 10:01:25 PM
#48:


i think if you start early enough you could even do 7 shows
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10/20/17 2:32:17 AM
#49:


Unfortunately, I did not. So only 2. Alas!

Raw Week 2 Sept 2017
Roman Reigns d. Jason Jordan (53)
Cena trash talks Reigns a bit. It's a shoot, brother!? (82)
Sasha Banks d. Emma (47) (Poor Chemistry)
Lesnar & Heyman call out Strowman, who responds-- Lesnar attempts to take Strowman to Suplex City. Strowman pops up immediately and power slams him (90)
WWE ENDORSES PASTAMANIA, BROTHER, WHILE FEEDING THE HOMELESS (60)
Bray Wyatt d. Goldust (52)
Wyatt blathers on about HE'S JUST A MAN while rubbing off Goldust's paint (58)
WWE HELD A SEMINAR ON WORLD PEACE, AND HOW STEPHANIE CREATED IT (62)
Gallows & Anderson, Hardy Boyz, Rollins & Ambrose, and Cesaro & Sheamus have a BRAWLLL (59)
Elias Samson d. Kalisto (59) (I should probably put Elias songs as angle before all of his matches if we're being fair)
John Cena v. Braun Strowman ends in a DQ when Braun destroys Cena with steps (65)
Strowman power slams Cena into the steps some more for good measure. BRAUHNNNNN (87)
Miz and Maryse announce they're having a child. That cur Enzo interrupts (73)
Miz d. Enzo Amore when the ref calls for stoppage after 4 skull crushing finales in a row with Enzo clearly not defending himself-- Miz and the Miztourage beat the hell out of him (73)
Hardy Boyz and Rollins + Ambrose d. The Bar, Gallows & Anderson (70)

Rating: 69. WWE NEEDS MORE INTERESTING STORYLINES! WOW!

Only real change I made here was having Miz defeat Enzo-- this is mostly because I can't in good conscience have two straight DQ finishes more than to not give Miz that loss. Though I couldn't give Miz that loss.

WWE falls to national size! OH NO! (Well at least I'll stop getting dinged for the storyline thing I'd hope. And my "lack of stars")
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10/20/17 2:33:12 AM
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Smackdown Week 2 Sept 2017
Owens starts the show, listing off demands for Vince. Bryan cuts him off and says Vince will shut him up later (84)
AJ Styles d. Tye Dillinger to retain (63) Corbin beats them both up (67)
Jinder Mahal is out there. He says Orton and Shinsuke are not worthy, that is why he had to destroy them both last week-- the Maharaja needs waste NO MORE TIME with these fools. Orton comes out to attack. He gets the initial edge, but the Singh Bros distract him just enough that Jinder gets a low blow. Orton is thrashed extensively. Where is Shinsuke?! (55)
The New Day d. The Usos in a Sin City Street Fight for the Smackdown Tag Titles (73)
Natalya d. Naomi to retain (43)
Benjamin & Gable d. The Hype Bros (51) Zack Ryder refuses handshake (37)
WWE FILMS PRESENTS: WWE HELPS CHILDREN. COMING TO DVD SOON (68)
Owens and Vince have a confrontation. He will beat a McMahon SENSELESS. Savage headbutt, etc (88)

Rating: 72 Storylines are fine now (partially for falling to national, partially for beating McMahons senseless), but Benjamin & Gable vs Hype Bros technically being my Main Event could not have helped this rating!

Changes this week are in the Mahal segment and the lack of crappy Ziggler entrances. Two weeks in a row for both. While I think No Mercy's card was okay except results, I'm going to take a bit more liberties with Smackdown before HiaC even occurs cause man there were some cringeworthy builds for this PPV.
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