Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 139: The Price for Tickets is $400,000

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MrGreenonion posted...

I think one of the greatest of all terms Ive come up with is fake. I guess other people have used it, perhaps, over the years, but Ive never noticed it, he said.

that's fake news
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Sounds like Al gore lol
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The internet is at least a thing that was invented by SOMEONE
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/917049657460690945/photo/1

MrGreenonion posted...

I think one of the greatest of all terms Ive come up with is fake.

wow greater even than "priming the pump"?

(That was the other phrase he claimed to have invented, right?)
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UltiXX posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/917049657460690945/photo/1

Those numbers are incomplete and projections.

But, the last recorded year there were 750,000 abortions approximately and 34,000 gun related deaths (including suicides which made up approximately 65% of them).
8500ish gun murders. About 250 of which were committed by a rifle. About 7800 were committed by handgun.

More people died in a car than in relation to a gun.

Overdoses were 52000.
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One, I seem to recall Michelle Obama getting WILDLY criticized for trying to stem the obesity epidemic at a childhood level. Liberals actually understand that obesity is a problem.

Two, I find it hard to believe that 500000 women died in 2016 in the process of getting an abortion.
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Peace___Frog posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916839600244609030

Trump on how hurricanes can be good

He's a fucking psychopath.

He said tragedies are something we never want to see, but the way we come together after them shows our amazing spirit. Which is true. It takes an extreme level of Trump Derangement Syndrome to not understand this.

UltiXX posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916839600244609030

Trump on how hurricanes can be good

He's a fucking psychopath.

He said tragedies are something we never want to see, but the way we come together after them shows our amazing spirit. Which is true. It takes an extreme level of Trump Derangement Syndrome to not understand this.

literally not what he said at all
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Are we sure Trump Derangement Syndrome isn't something suffered by his SUPPORTERS (like Ulti) so they blatantly misread his quotes in a more positive fashion?
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CelesMyUserName posted...

UltiXX posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916839600244609030

Trump on how hurricanes can be good

He's a fucking psychopath.

He said tragedies are something we never want to see, but the way we come together after them shows our amazing spirit. Which is true. It takes an extreme level of Trump Derangement Syndrome to not understand this.

literally not what he said at all

Well, it is hard to tell what he did actually say because it is put of context and being out on twitter by a biased source. The actual place it came from to see and hear it all would be nice. This wouldn't be the first out of context thing reported. That said, it sounds silly there.
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Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

UltiXX posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916839600244609030

Trump on how hurricanes can be good

He's a fucking psychopath.

He said tragedies are something we never want to see, but the way we come together after them shows our amazing spirit. Which is true. It takes an extreme level of Trump Derangement Syndrome to not understand this.

literally not what he said at all

Well, it is hard to tell what he did actually say because it is put of context and being out on twitter by a biased source. The actual place it came from to see and hear it all would be nice. This wouldn't be the first out of context thing reported. That said, it sounds silly there.

The video from that interview is in that thread of tweets so you can watch it spew straight from the horses mouth.
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Corker and Trump arguing.
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Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.
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if you think about it isn't trump himself a biased source

makes you think

Corrik posted...

Corker and Trump arguing.

What even prompted that anyway?

As far as I know: Corker announced he's retiring -> ??? -> Trump sent those tweets about how he rejected Corker for State as well as an endorsement, etc. -> Corker replied.

Was there something in the ??? part or was that completely unprompted?
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Corrik posted...

Corker and Trump arguing.

https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/917045348820049920

It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning.

damn son
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xp1337 posted...

if you think about it isn't trump himself a biased source

makes you think

Corrik posted...

Corker and Trump arguing.

What even prompted that anyway?

As far as I know: Corker announced he's retiring -> ??? -> Trump sent those tweets about how he rejected Corker for State as well as an endorsement, etc. -> Corker replied.

Was there something in the ??? part or was that completely unprompted?

Basically, Trump sent out 3 tweets about Corker basically saying he couldn't get re-elected without him and so on. Then Corker said the white house is an adult day care center.
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No, I know that part, I'm asking if there was any reason for Trump to send those tweets in the first place.

If not, it seems a bit odd to me for him to do that when the ACA repeal failure demonstrated how weak the Senate majority is. Doesn't seem like a smart move to possibly alienate another senator!
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Inviso posted...

Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.

Well the source did link to the video from that interview so you don't have to take him at his word.
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lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.

Well the source did link to the video from that interview so you don't have to take him at his word.

I'm aware of that. But the way it was posted, it's like "Dohoho, look at this stupid, self-centered thing Trump said" even though it's still taken out of context. It's no different than shit conservatives do, where they give the option of looking at the context, but don't expect anyone to actually do so when they post something outrageous.
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xp1337 posted...

No, I know that part, I'm asking if there was any reason for Trump to send those tweets in the first place.

If not, it seems a bit odd to me for him to do that when the ACA repeal failure demonstrated how weak the Senate majority is. Doesn't seem like a smart move to possibly alienate another senator!

Because Corker said Tillerson, Mattis, and Kelly are the only thing keeping us from chaos or something.
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Corrik posted...

xp1337 posted...

No, I know that part, I'm asking if there was any reason for Trump to send those tweets in the first place.

If not, it seems a bit odd to me for him to do that when the ACA repeal failure demonstrated how weak the Senate majority is. Doesn't seem like a smart move to possibly alienate another senator!

Because Corker said Tillerson, Mattis, and Kelly are the only thing keeping us from chaos or something.

Oh, right. I remember that now.
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LOL so then Trump goes and proves him right
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Inviso posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.

Well the source did link to the video from that interview so you don't have to take him at his word.

I'm aware of that. But the way it was posted, it's like "Dohoho, look at this stupid, self-centered thing Trump said" even though it's still taken out of context. It's no different than shit conservatives do, where they give the option of looking at the context, but don't expect anyone to actually do so when they post something outrageous.

He was fact checking a 30 minute interview in real time via twitter. To expect anything more than the highlights as they happen would be asinine. That is just who Donald Trump is and there isn't really anything the reporter can do to change that.
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lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.

Well the source did link to the video from that interview so you don't have to take him at his word.

I'm aware of that. But the way it was posted, it's like "Dohoho, look at this stupid, self-centered thing Trump said" even though it's still taken out of context. It's no different than shit conservatives do, where they give the option of looking at the context, but don't expect anyone to actually do so when they post something outrageous.

He was fact checking a 30 minute interview in real time via twitter. To expect anything more than the highlights as they happen would be asinine. That is just who Donald Trump is and there isn't really anything the reporter can do to change that.

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.
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lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Inviso posted...

Okay, I'm not usually one to do this, but I'm actually gonna give Corrik props for that response. It IS a quote out of context and thus SHOULDN'T be blindly treated as a blatant fuck-up of speech. I mean, liberals bitch and moan about it when conservatives take things out of context, but this is a guy taking what he considers something stupid/terrible in Trump's interview, so we shouldn't blindly accept and criticize.

It's much better than taking the biased and cherry-picked source and blindly defending it with bullshit argument (see: Ulti) without bothering to do even minimal legwork to check the original source.

Well the source did link to the video from that interview so you don't have to take him at his word.

I'm aware of that. But the way it was posted, it's like "Dohoho, look at this stupid, self-centered thing Trump said" even though it's still taken out of context. It's no different than shit conservatives do, where they give the option of looking at the context, but don't expect anyone to actually do so when they post something outrageous.

He was fact checking a 30 minute interview in real time via twitter. To expect anything more than the highlights as they happen would be asinine. That is just who Donald Trump is and there isn't really anything the reporter can do to change that.

But it's being posted on board 8 and talked about on board 8 out of context. WE are the ones I'm talking about, not the guy posting the tweets (though if he felt that particular sound byte was worth posting, maybe he could've taken time time to give some context. I'm not defending Trump, but that string of tweets seems like he's literally picking out the quotes that show Trump in the worst possible light.) That's the shit that lets conservatives call liberals out and gives credence to claims of "fake news".
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I approve of skepticism of any and all sources, so long as it is skepticism and not cynicism or flat out unconditional rejection.
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Would be nice to have a President with a vocabulary beyond Trump's
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https://twitter.com/isaacdovere/status/916796539862962177

This is beautiful
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Inviso posted...

But it's being posted on board 8 and talked about on board 8 out of context. WE are the ones I'm talking about, not the guy posting the tweets (though if he felt that particular sound byte was worth posting, maybe he could've taken time time to give some context. I'm not defending Trump, but that string of tweets seems like he's literally picking out the quotes that show Trump in the worst possible light.) That's the shit that lets conservatives call liberals out and gives credence to claims of "fake news".

It is true that we like to rail on a lot of the dumb things Trump says and we usually only post a link to those specific quotes when we do it.
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Maybe this is just a quirk of mine but when I see "out of context" used in this kind of context it comes with an implicit assumption that the intention has been distorted.

As an off-the-top-of-my-head example: "You didn't build that" when presented by itself leaves out the critical part that Obama was referring to public infrastructure like roads and more generally, the idea that almost without exception, everyone at some point makes use of and builds off of things from other people and/or the government.

So to me the core question would be, "Is that the case here?"

Granted, it can become a bit messy when you have to shift through what each person is getting from the quote as well as if they disagree on that answer, all of which can be influenced by bias.

...you know i don't know where i was going with all this other than "I think there's more nuance here than just taking the literal definition of out-of-context and applying it equally."
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Corrik posted...

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.

You can be skeptical all you want but if you had read through to the end you could have watched the full video of the interview with Huckabee. Straight from the presidents mouth during an interview with a friendly face.
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.

You can be skeptical all you want but if you had read through to the end you could have watched the full video of the interview with Huckabee. Straight from the presidents mouth during an interview with a friendly face.

I am not reading through all of someone's random twitter feed to look for a video. Like I said, it sounds silly. If it is as bad as put forth here, it will undoubtedly be in video on a mainstream news site before long.
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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.

You can be skeptical all you want but if you had read through to the end you could have watched the full video of the interview with Huckabee. Straight from the presidents mouth during an interview with a friendly face.

I am not reading through all of someone's random twitter feed to look for a video. Like I said, it sounds silly. If it is as bad as put forth here, it will undoubtedly be in video on a mainstream news site before long.

If you want to be lazy then that is on you.
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.

You can be skeptical all you want but if you had read through to the end you could have watched the full video of the interview with Huckabee. Straight from the presidents mouth during an interview with a friendly face.

I am not reading through all of someone's random twitter feed to look for a video. Like I said, it sounds silly. If it is as bad as put forth here, it will undoubtedly be in video on a mainstream news site before long.

If you want to be lazy then that is on you.

Is it any lazier than not providing a direct link to a video? *shrug*

Anywho... yeah, I am pretty lazy regarding shit like that. In your shoes, I wouldn't have provided the video either tbqh and told you to look for it yourself. Haha.
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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Well, I tend to be skeptical about Twitter sources regarding statements as they have been spun countless times before. Hell, even CNN tried to say Trump said Puerto Rico was not a real catastrophe and Katrina was. When if you actually put it together, he was just using real as a word of emphasis as he does repeatedly most times he talks.

You can be skeptical all you want but if you had read through to the end you could have watched the full video of the interview with Huckabee. Straight from the presidents mouth during an interview with a friendly face.

I am not reading through all of someone's random twitter feed to look for a video. Like I said, it sounds silly. If it is as bad as put forth here, it will undoubtedly be in video on a mainstream news site before long.

If you want to be lazy then that is on you.

Is it any lazier than not providing a direct link to a video? *shrug*

Anywho... yeah, I am pretty lazy regarding shit like that. In your shoes, I wouldn't have provided the video either tbqh and told you to look for it yourself. Haha.

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.
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lordloki12 posted...

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.

Not even read actually, just scroll down until you see the little blue "play" arrow!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916867615812980736
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Not_an_Owl posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.

Not even read actually, just scroll down until you see the little blue "play" arrow!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916867615812980736

That video is like 30 minutes long.
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Corrik posted...

Not_an_Owl posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.

Not even read actually, just scroll down until you see the little blue "play" arrow!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916867615812980736

That video is like 30 minutes long.

Yeah so there will be plenty of context right?
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Not_an_Owl posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.

Not even read actually, just scroll down until you see the little blue "play" arrow!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916867615812980736

That video is like 30 minutes long.

Yeah so there will be plenty of context right?

Apparently. Anyways, football is on. Wooo.
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Do you know anyone still boycotting?
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Apparently Pence is.

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/917080888290299904

So offended by players protesting racial inequality that he walked out afterward.
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nottheonion jesus
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Jakyl25 posted...

Do you know anyone still boycotting?

Boycotting watching the games? Not personally. I know some people who went through the stages of grief over it. But, when the steelers basically 180d on it most were chopping at the heels to get back on board.
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I wonder if a bunch of people kneeled for the anthem in all 50 states, if Pence would just leave the country. Cause I'm up for doing it.
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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

Not_an_Owl posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Litterally all you had to do was continue reading the thread that was linked to.

Not even read actually, just scroll down until you see the little blue "play" arrow!

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/916867615812980736

That video is like 30 minutes long.

Yeah so there will be plenty of context right?

Apparently. Anyways, football is on. Wooo.

The true Corrik in a nutshell.
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Pence staged that shit...reminds me of the Hamilton-drama in a way, except he knew his action in advance instead of getting a reaction aimed at him. Either way, it's about how people are "allowed" to protest.

And Corker continues to be Tennessee's best Republican. 2018's gonna be a weird gamble.
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To be fair, I would leave a Colts/49ers game too
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Play Braid.
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