Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 138: Politically Motivated Ingrates (and Corrik)

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Cnn is reporting that oxfam will become involved in the Puerto Rico recovery, after declaring the Trump administration's response "inadequate".
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The Mana Sword posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

oh hey Trump is down in Puerto Rico to chastise them for ruining our budget

that's nice

"I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack"

Nice

don't worry he had some nice words for them too

Is this real
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The U.N. voted today on a bill to condemn countries to use the death penalty against homosexuals. The bill passed.

Let's look at the list that voted against this bill, shall we?

Bangladesh
Botswana
Burundi
China
Egypt
Ethiopia
India
Iraq
Japan
Qatar
Saudia Arabia
The United Arab Emirates
United States

What
the
fuck
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Remember when Vieques Naval Range and the Roosevelt Roads Naval Station were shut down by ungrateful commies in Puerto Rico (and the US)? And now they are whining that the naval response was delayed?
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But Trump said he'd be great for gays....

(Also really Japan? All the homoerotic stuff you guys shell out...)
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My Immortal posted...

The U.N. voted today on a bill to ban countries to use the death penalty against homosexuals. The bill passed.

Let's look at the list that voted against this bill, shall we?

Bangladesh
Botswana
Burundi
China
Egypt
Ethiopia
India
Iraq
Japan
Qatar
Saudia Arabia
The United Arab Emirates
United States

What
the
fuck

The UN can't "ban" elements of any nation's criminal justice system. It's pathetic and laughable that anyone even wasted resources and time on this.
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Yea I'm more surprised about Japan tbh
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Mershaaay posted...

Remember when Vieques Naval Range and the Roosevelt Roads Naval Station were shut down by ungrateful commies in Puerto Rico (and the US)? And now they are whining that the naval response was delayed?

weren't you going to stop posting here because everyone who disagrees with you has asperger?
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KamikazePotato posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

Bane_Of_Despair posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

oh hey Trump is down in Puerto Rico to chastise them for ruining our budget

that's nice

"I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack"

Nice

don't worry he had some nice words for them too

Is this real

What is wrong with saying "you should be proud that your local response prevented thousands of people from dying"

You guys are really desperate to be angry. Is that the only way you can feel things?
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Oh, Mer's main is still active?

It's been so long since I've seen him post.
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Re-reading the article I guess it isn't a vote on a ban, it's a condemnation of countries that allow it.

I'll edit my post for clarity.

Still disgusting that we won't condemn this.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Yea I'm more surprised about Japan tbh

You should probably assume that they voted against it because the UN has zero authority to change the laws of any nation. Not because they want to see gays fucking murdered.
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I was wondering what pos bigot was responding to me.
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The bill wasn't just against death penalties for homosexuals, but a number of 'crimes'. Homosexuality was just one of them.

I don't think that absolves the US, but it at least explains the vote.

Edit: I see this was already explained so nevermind!
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Dark Young Link posted...

Oh, Mer's main is still active?

It's been so long since I've seen him post.

that's sephyg, not mer.

never been a huge mer fan but he doesn't deserve to be confused with sephy.
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The Mana Sword posted...

The bill wasn't just against death penalties for homosexuals, but a number of crimes. Homosexuality was just one of them.

I don't think that absolves the US, but it at least explains the vote.

Edit: I see this was already explained so nevermind!

What I found specifically states it was to condemn death penalty used in the following instances:
On minors, pregnant women, adultery, blashpemy, and same-sex unions

I wonder which of these we support?
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Ban the death penalty in general, and if we must keep it around then let's be sure gay people aren't targeted and executed with their sexuality being a reason to have targeted them. That's a fine goal worldwide for countries to reach out for.

As I read your post MI, am I understanding it right that the vote was to decide whether somebody who's gay could always survive instead of facing the death penalty? Like in a situation where a straight person and a gay person did the same crime in a country with the death penalty, the gay person is...I don't want to say better protected because there are other punishments and factors, but they would be safer from execution than the straight person?

Link might help.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

Oh, Mer's main is still active?

It's been so long since I've seen him post.

that's sephyg, not mer.

never been a huge mer fan but he doesn't deserve to be confused with sephy.

Oh! Fair enough.
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My Immortal posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

The bill wasn't just against death penalties for homosexuals, but a number of crimes. Homosexuality was just one of them.

I don't think that absolves the US, but it at least explains the vote.

Edit: I see this was already explained so nevermind!

What I found specifically states it was to condemn death penalty used in the following instances:
On minors, pregnant women, adultery, blashpemy, and same-sex unions

I wonder which of these we support?

Please tell me how this UN resolution will prevent any of this from happening
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US just doesn't want its ability to issue the death penalty encroached on.

Not that the UN can actually enforce anything anyway, but it's still gross.
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HaRRicH posted...

Link might help.

For some reason I can't find anything about the vote or the bill on a main media site, only on LGBT news sites so most of the links I've been reading are horribly written / biased (understandably, but still)

This is the best one I've found so far:
http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/10/02/u-s-opposes-un-resolution-death-penalty-sex-relations/
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I find it incredible that the same people who claim to be "gay rights activists" support a meaningless, effete resolution by the UN but do not support actions by the US military that have actually removed awful fucking regimes that stoning gay people to death in the street.
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Mershaaay posted...

My Immortal posted...

The Mana Sword posted...

The bill wasn't just against death penalties for homosexuals, but a number of crimes. Homosexuality was just one of them.

I don't think that absolves the US, but it at least explains the vote.

Edit: I see this was already explained so nevermind!

What I found specifically states it was to condemn death penalty used in the following instances:
On minors, pregnant women, adultery, blashpemy, and same-sex unions

I wonder which of these we support?

Please tell me how this UN resolution will prevent any of this from happening

I'm still waiting on a response, o crusader for gay rights!
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Mershaaay posted...

I find it incredible that the same people who claim to be "gay rights activists" support a meaningless, effete resolution by the UN but do not support actions by the US military that have actually removed awful fucking regimes that stoning gay people to death in the street.

Holy strawmen batman
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Mershaaay posted...

I find it incredible that the same people who claim to be "gay rights activists" support a meaningless, effete resolution by the UN but do not support actions by the US military that have actually removed awful fucking regimes that stoning gay people to death in the street.

I find it incredible that people who support sports teams aren't satisfied by their team winning a single game and keep pushing for them to be the best ever.
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I find it incredible that people quote SephG and force me to have to read his posts.

Please don't.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Mershaaay posted...

I find it incredible that the same people who claim to be "gay rights activists" support a meaningless, effete resolution by the UN but do not support actions by the US military that have actually removed awful fucking regimes that stoning gay people to death in the street.

Holy strawmen batman

How else would you prevent gays from being murdered in these backwards nations? Unlike My Immortal, I actually care about gay rights beyond using dumb twitter links as an excuse to bash the US.
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I won't smash your nuts into an unrecognizable lump, I'll only throw bricks at your face, because I care.
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Peace___Frog posted...

I won't smash your nuts into an unrecognizable lump, I'll only throw bricks at your face, because I care.

How many gay lives have been spared in Muslim nations by anything other than a change of laws within said nation or by the US military?
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MI's phony outrage is hypocritical and pathetic
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So sephy, are you proposing that in order to help gay people in other countries, we should have the us military place hundreds of thousands of assorted boots across the terrain?
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

So sephy, are you proposing that in order to help gay people in other countries, we should have the us military place hundreds of thousands of assorted boots across the terrain?

Possibly also on boats.
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man, Trump is like a video game villain when it comes to Puerto Rico
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Mick Mulvaney is here, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget. I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you are throwing our budget out of whack. We spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine. We saved a lot of lives. If you look at the every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that.

i'm just reading the transcript was this a joke or was he serious
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FFDragon posted...

Mick Mulvaney is here, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget. I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you are throwing our budget out of whack. We spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine. We saved a lot of lives. If you look at the every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that.

i'm just reading the transcript was this a joke or was he serious

Does it really matter? It's not going to be seen as a joke, intended or not.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

So sephy, are you proposing that in order to help gay people in other countries, we should have the us military place hundreds of thousands of assorted boots across the terrain?

That is the only way to have any tangible effect on gay executions unless you're working to change that country from within. Anything short of that is just pathetic grandstanding.

If My Immortal thinks this is the biggest travesty in the world, then he should talk to me about neoconservatism.
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I watched it live.

he was 100% serious
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I mean, it would still be a bad joke but I'd be willing to cut him a bit of slack if it was thrown out as one.

Either way the President shouldn't be shaming a part of the country because they got slammed by some hurricanes and minimizing their struggle by not considering it a 'real disaster.'
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Mershaaay posted...

If My Immortal thinks this is the biggest travesty in the world, then he should talk to me about neoconservatism.

Why would you want to talk to any of us

We all have asperger for not agreeing with you, remember

The moment you pulled that shit, you lost the right to be treated with any kind of respect whatsoever.
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FFDragon posted...

Either way the President shouldn't be shaming a part of the country because they got slammed by some hurricanes and minimizing their struggle by not considering it a 'real disaster.'

They're not white, so their problems don't matter to him. It's as simple as that.
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FFDragon posted...

Mick Mulvaney is here, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget. I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you are throwing our budget out of whack. We spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine. We saved a lot of lives. If you look at the every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that.

i'm just reading the transcript was this a joke or was he serious

Complains about disaster relief throwing the budget out of wack.

Says nothing about his administration's unprecedented Secret Service expenditures (which are so high specifically because the resorts that he visits and owns charge exorbitant prices for those same Secret Service agents charged with protecting him).



really maeks u think
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Peace___Frog posted...

FFDragon posted...

Either way the President shouldn't be shaming a part of the country because they got slammed by some hurricanes and minimizing their struggle by not considering it a 'real disaster.'

They're not white, so their problems don't matter to him. It's as simple as that.

This is giving Trump too much credit. Trump doesn't care about anyone's problems, regardless of race. He very clearly lacks empathy for anyone other than himself, as has been shown over and over and over.
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Seph, what is Mark sanchez's opinion on the subject?
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While I understand that the vote was merely symbolic, but what does the US have to gain by voting no?
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transience posted...

man, Trump is like a video game villain when it comes to Puerto Rico

Get RPG protagonist Vlado on it
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StealThisSheen posted...

Mershaaay posted...

If My Immortal thinks this is the biggest travesty in the world, then he should talk to me about neoconservatism.

Why would you want to talk to any of us

We all have asperger for not agreeing with you, remember

The moment you pulled that shit, you lost the right to be treated with any kind of respect whatsoever.

So does that mean he thinks michaelwclark has asperger for being a Colts fan instead of a jets fan? Sad!
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Oh wow Seph still posts here? Blast from the past.

Responding to him is even more embarrassing than responding to Corrik, though, so.....c'mon guys, get it together.
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FFDragon posted...

Mick Mulvaney is here, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget. I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you are throwing our budget out of whack. We spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine. We saved a lot of lives. If you look at the every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that.

i'm just reading the transcript was this a joke or was he serious

It's not a joke. It's a "this isn't nearly as bad as Katrina and by the way Puerto Rico sucked anyway, so blaming me would be super unfair"

Because the real victim, of course, is Donald Trump
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LordoftheMorons posted...

FFDragon posted...

Mick Mulvaney is here, and Mick is in charge of a thing called budget. I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you are throwing our budget out of whack. We spent a lot of money on Puerto Rico, and that's fine. We saved a lot of lives. If you look at the every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina and you look at the tremendous hundreds and hundreds of people that died and what happened here with a storm that was just totally overbearing. No one has ever seen anything like that.

i'm just reading the transcript was this a joke or was he serious

It's not a joke. It's a "this isn't nearly as bad as Katrina and by the way Puerto Rico sucked anyway, so blaming me would be super unfair"

Because the real victim, of course, is Donald Trump

Can confirm this is the argument making the rounds on Fox's The Five
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LapisLazuli posted...

Oh wow Seph still posts here? Blast from the past.

Responding to him is even more embarrassing than responding to Corrik, though, so.....c'mon guys, get it together.

As horrible as they all can be, I will still respond because no one deserves to be 100% deprived of attention. That can legit destroy a person's psyche.
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