Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 138: Politically Motivated Ingrates (and Corrik)

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Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

HaRRicH posted...

Corrik, MI shared this link when I asked him for more info earlier:

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/10/02/u-s-opposes-un-resolution-death-penalty-sex-relations

I don't know the politics or reasoning behind our no vote, but it sounds like something we should have supported.

You would think so but our country is pro death penalty and likes to vote that way no matter how specific the situation is.

I support the death penalty.

Cool but would you always vote pro death penalty no matter the situation like our country does which is why they voted the way they did on this? Because I was just explaining why they voted the way they did today.

I don't think you are obligated to vote pro death on any issue involving the death penalty. So, no.

Corrik I wasn't trying to argue with you I was just trying to explain why they voted the way they voted. I don't know why you volunteered that you were pro death penalty in the first place. It wasnt really related to what I was trying to tell you.
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Steve Bannon says that Trump supporters would rather accept full immigration amnesty from Trump before they would accept any pro-gun-control stance by him.

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from
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lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Corrik posted...

HaRRicH posted...

Corrik, MI shared this link when I asked him for more info earlier:

http://www.losangelesblade.com/2017/10/02/u-s-opposes-un-resolution-death-penalty-sex-relations

I don't know the politics or reasoning behind our no vote, but it sounds like something we should have supported.

You would think so but our country is pro death penalty and likes to vote that way no matter how specific the situation is.

I support the death penalty.

Cool but would you always vote pro death penalty no matter the situation like our country does which is why they voted the way they did on this? Because I was just explaining why they voted the way they did today.

I don't think you are obligated to vote pro death on any issue involving the death penalty. So, no.

Corrik I wasn't trying to argue with you I was just trying to explain why they voted the way they voted. I don't know why you volunteered that you were pro death penalty in the first place. It wasnt really related to what I was trying to tell you.

Was stating I am pro death penalty, but I do not think they need to do that. Not arguing either.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Steve Bannon says that Trump supporters would rather accept full immigration amnesty from Trump before they would accept any pro-gun-control stance by him.

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

To them, it's power
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Jakyl25 posted...

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

Without guns how would we post cool pictures on social media of us holding them with country music lyrics as the description
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Jakyl25 posted...

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

people tend to be driven by fear a lot of the time. owning a gun makes them feel safe, as opposed to powerless if they were unavailable

that's my hot take, anyway
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The Mana Sword posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

people tend to be driven by fear a lot of the time. owning a gun makes them feel safe, as opposed to powerless if they were unavailable

that's my hot take, anyway

I'd agree with this for some people who fight for the right to own them, but the ones that go above and beyond like Jakyl is describing probably do it to feel powerful, yeah.
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I mean, I think those go hand in hand. If they feel powerful, they feel safe.
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The Mana Sword posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

people tend to be driven by fear a lot of the time. owning a gun makes them feel safe, as opposed to powerless if they were unavailable

that's my hot take, anyway

I totally get that and I'm not even against owning a hunting rifle or a personal hand gun for protection.

I more mean people who just really love guns so much that's it's a HUGE ISSUE for them if there is any attempt to control them better
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Jakyl25 posted...

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

I mean, as someone governmentally trained to shoot M4s and M9s (Small Arms Expert Marksmanship Ribbon what up), it's novel to shoot them for a while. But it's not something I'd really do in my free time.
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My question would be what are people doing with these high powered/assault/whatever guns that it's like "I'll die before you regulate these!" to people.
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To be fair, there's also the MWC scenario where he needs multiple guns in every room of the house to feel safe, including 8 on top of the cabinet so there's one no matter where he's reaching from
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Jakyl25 posted...

Why do americans love guns SO MUCH?

fixed that for you.

it's probably a cultural thing. i'd answer "why do americans love cars SO MUCH?" with the same thing.
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Jakyl25 posted...

To be fair, there's also the MWC scenario where he needs multiple guns in every room of the house to feel safe, including 8 on top of the cabinet so there's one no matter where he's reaching from

All cocked with one in the chamber or else you're doing it wrong, remember.
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I dunno. I'm an American and I don't love guns or cars
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I love pizza.

Am I not American

Do you know something I don't
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The Mana Sword posted...

I mean, I think those go hand in hand. If they feel powerful, they feel safe.

If I were to describe the difference between owning them to feel safe and owning them to feel powerful. Not that everyone here would agree with this but it is just how I picture it.

For safety: "I could defend myself if I had to"

To feel powerful: "I could end you if I wanted to"
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Jakyl25 posted...

I dunno. I'm an American and I don't love guns or cars

You're fine. Plenty American.

StealThisSheen posted...

I love pizza.

Am I not American

Do you know something I don't

YOU are not.
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Jakyl25 posted...

I dunno. I'm an American and I don't love guns or cars

generally speaking americans seem to love cars and (especially) guns way more than europeans, though.
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StealThisSheen posted...

My question would be what are people doing with these high powered/assault/whatever guns that it's like "I'll die before you regulate these!" to people.

A lot of them have been fed enough BIG GOVERNMENT propaganda that they're convinced all guns are going to be taken away so the government can quell any civil disobedience and declare martial law etc etc. They also think they are big time badasses and are going to stand up and liberate the country when this happens.

There are a lot of these 'woke' people out there, and I'd wager that they make up the majority of the extreme gun crazy contingent.
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And Europeans love what more, techno music?
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SupremeZero posted...

YOU are not.

I also love football

And I love professional wrestling

And I

Love

Burritos at 4am

Parties that never end

Dogs that love cats

And

And twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins

I'd like a recount please
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Jakyl25 posted...

And Europeans love what more, techno music?

europop, bicycles and atheism.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

I dunno. I'm an American and I don't love guns or cars

generally speaking americans seem to love cars and (especially) guns way more than europeans, though.

Both are also way more common and easier to get in America than in Europe
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VeryInsane posted...

Both are also way more common and easier to get in America than in Europe

and why is this the case?
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StealThisSheen posted...

twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins

That part has always confused me

If the implication is that you want to have a threesome with them, wouldn't it be better if the girls were different? And it wasn't, you know, incestual?
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nothing is more american than incest
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Guns are a big part of American culture. Our movies have guns. Our video games have guns. Our shows have guns. Our Constitution has guns. We are told from birth that the right to have a gun is a key part of freedom. Guns are a symbol of power. We used guns to kill all the Native Americans and take their stuff - er, I mean spread our society across all of America. People recreationally shoot wild animals with guns. People buy guns for safety (ignore that it rarely works). People buy guns just to look at them.

I don't think it would be an exaggeration to say that a lot of people in America like guns more than they like people. There will always be opposition to stricter gun control, because people fucking love guns.
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Jakyl25 posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

twiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiins

That part has always confused me

If the implication is that you want to have a threesome with them, wouldn't it be better if the girls were different? And it wasn't, you know, incestual?

Looks like we have a non-American here
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Both are also way more common and easier to get in America than in Europe

and why is this the case?

We had to have guns to fight off them heathen injuns so we could take land that was rightfully ours
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The Mana Sword posted...

nothing is more american than incest

http://15130-presscdn-0-89.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ted_cruz7-1-701x467.jpg
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The Mana Sword posted...

nothing is more american than incest

I would direct you to the Royal Family Tree
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Both are also way more common and easier to get in America than in Europe

and why is this the case?

Very little gun laws in America compared to Europe and cars are seen as more of a luxury in Europe cause there's way better public transport.
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FFDragon posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

("Fun" read in the independent: http://tinyurl.com/y846mvjl

(Actually a horrifying read))

FIFA is literally the mafia.

It's not on FIFA so much - I mean, the stuff in this article isn't on FIFA so much. This is total disregard for people coming from the government.

I've experienced it even in my job. Not anything near what is in that article - I'm not trying to draw a comparison - but the lack of human empathy, the disdain for employees, the barely-hidden disgust for certain nationalities is something you see all around if you look for it. I'm spared the brunt of it due to my job not being manual labour and the strength of my passport. But it's fucking terrible. Every time I think about it I feel dirty for even being here

There are some good things too though and some workers are treated very well. It's not like...completely shit. But pretty close
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Americans do seem to like European cars though
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The American love of cars is pretty easy to understand. Cars are cool and basically everyone needs them. We don't have the same public transport access that other countries do and we never will.
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VeryInsane posted...

Very little gun laws in America compared to Europe and cars are seen as more of a luxury in Europe cause there's way better public transport.

and what's the reason there's very little gun laws in america? and why do we have way better public transport?
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KamikazePotato posted...

The American love of cars is pretty easy to understand. Cars are cool and basically everyone needs them. We don't have the same public transport access that other countries do and we never will.

Yeah but some people lustily get off on cars the same way they do women. And we all know only women should be objectified like that.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Very little gun laws in America compared to Europe and cars are seen as more of a luxury in Europe cause there's way better public transport.

and what's the reason there's very little gun laws in america? and why do we have way better public transport?

Public transport infrastructure would be extremely difficult to implement/keep in a country as big as America, where most people do not live in packed cities.
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Jakyl25 posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

("Fun" read in the independent: http://tinyurl.com/y846mvjl

(Actually a horrifying read))

I really thought that World Cup would have been moved to another host nation by now

It's like he said, would have happened already

And honestly for as obviously fucking dumb and corrupt as the process was and for as obviously fucking monstrous as the conditions are, people will pretend it's all fine once the tournament rolls around. The entire country is one giant building site (this week alone I had 10m added to my commute because of more stupid construction in the stupid roads) to get ready for the WC, that train isn't stopping now.
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KamikazePotato posted...

We used guns to kill all the Native Americans and take their stuff - er, I mean spread our society across all of America.

Tbf, the latter part is still true even ignoring the former, most notably in the West where there was a lot of wildlife that will fuck you up if you're travelling alone or in very small numbers. Traveling to the North Pole still has this with polar bears.
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why is jakyl shitposting so much all of a sudden?
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Jakyl25 posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

The American love of cars is pretty easy to understand. Cars are cool and basically everyone needs them. We don't have the same public transport access that other countries do and we never will.

Yeah but some people lustily get off on cars the same way they do women. And we all know only women should be objectified like that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/6316522/Fast-cars-boost-mens-testosterone-levels-research.html
https://www.wired.com/2008/09/weve-got-some-b/

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Very little gun laws in America compared to Europe and cars are seen as more of a luxury in Europe cause there's way better public transport.

and what's the reason there's very little gun laws in america? and why do we have way better public transport?

You have better public transport because we all decided to settle in cities that are a Euro nation width apart from each other, so we all needed cars anyway.
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I don't think Jakyl is shitposting. He's injecting humor when talking about topics because holy shit the world is really depressing right now.
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VeryInsane posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Steve Bannon says that Trump supporters would rather accept full immigration amnesty from Trump before they would accept any pro-gun-control stance by him.

Why do people love guns SO MUCH? I get fighting for the right to own one, but I don't get where the fetishistic appeal comes from

To them, it's power

100% it's about power

I recently fired a couple for the first time last year and it felt cool, I won't lie. I can see why that would become an addictive or intoxicating feeling.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

why is jakyl shitposting so much all of a sudden?

Is this what shitposting is? I was just trying to have a lighthearted conversation about human oddness
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I am almost positive the "real catastrophe" part of what Trump said is being taken out of context based on how he speaks.
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XIII_rocks posted...

100% it's about power

I recently fired a couple for the first time last year and it felt cool, I won't lie. I can see why that would become an addictive or intoxicating feeling.

Yeah. Like, in the abstract, I think guns are cool. I considered owning one or at least going to a shooting range. That doesn't mean that an abstract desire to feel like a big man with his rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty should supercede people's literal life or death safety.
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Corrik posted...

I am almost positive the "real catastrophe" part of what Trump said is being taken out of context based on how he speaks.

He clearly meant that the death toll could have been much worse like Katrina and it's great that it's not

But is it so much to ask that he thinks before he speaks?
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