Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 134: Mars Ain't the Kind of Place to Raise Your Kids

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Corrik posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

I am also not advocating about knowing about straight sex or anything. I said all sexual matters should be taught to a mature mind and parents should be forewarned and allowed to have the child sit it out if they object.

So they shouldn't know that their mom and dad are in a relationship?

What

I assume part of your "hide the gays from the kids" initiative is to not let them know that some men are in relationships with men and some women are in relationships with women. Please correct me if I'm wrong
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Jakyl25 posted...

Pokewars posted...

How about just people that actually contributed to the advancement of humanity being celebrated throughout the whole year?


.......nah, better to arbitrarily divide people based on whatever group people want to lump them in.

Drive by opinion!

Rat-a-tat-tat! That's still how guns sound like, right?
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Eddv posted...

Transgender riot squad.

What the actual fuck corrik

Yeah, unfortunately a liberal here thought if you don't single out a transgender child in kindergarten to be nice to that the other kids would be bigots to that child. Hence pointing out how dumb that was.

Think they are moreso interested in what crayons they have that day and stuff. But, who knows. We are more conservative out here!
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Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.
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Corrik kids are exposed to straight people by default, cisgender people by default, and various racial groups (primarily white people in America, sometimes exclusively white people depending on where you live) by default. Why is acknowledging people that they don't see in person every day "singling out" those people?
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The trans kid literally brought a book to school because they wanted the other kids to understand
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

To be completely fair the NFL has completely ruined Womens History month for me.

Well mostly Susan G Komen. God what a shitty organization
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Corrik posted...

Yeah, unfortunately a liberal here thought if you don't single out a transgender child in kindergarten to be nice to that the other kids would be bigots to that child. Hence pointing out how dumb that was.

Who said this and where

Because this sounds like that misquoting/lying thing you were complaining about on a rather dramatic scale
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

If anything, it is more offensive that you have to have a specific month because it establishes those groups haven't done enough to be covered normally.

The months are pointless. Just needs incorporated better.
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Susan G. Komen... fuck, don't remind me about those con artists.
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*black people are enslaved for centuries, talk about concepts like reparations*

"God you need to just get over it."

*black people get a month to celebrate their greatest figures*

"God why do you people need a month, can't we celebrate all great figures?"

This has been "How to Look Like a Complete Tool" starring Pokewars.
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Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

... do you think we don't want that? what in the fuck how are you misunderstanding this so badly

the point is it never gets coverage normally
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Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

If anything, it is more offensive that you have to have a specific month because it establishes those groups haven't done enough to be covered normally.

The months are pointless. Just needs incorporated better.

It's more of a Black pride/Women's pride thing. I have a holiday for that too to show my pride. Free Comic Book Day
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Panthera posted...

Corrik posted...

Yeah, unfortunately a liberal here thought if you don't single out a transgender child in kindergarten to be nice to that the other kids would be bigots to that child. Hence pointing out how dumb that was.

Who said this and where

Because this sounds like that misquoting/lying thing you were complaining about on a rather dramatic scale

My comment was in jest to make fun of the post I quoted in regards to it.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

... do you think we don't want that? what in the fuck how are you misunderstanding this so badly

the point is it never gets coverage normally

So you agree with me, but yet, you are still arguing to argue. Ok
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Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

If anything, it is more offensive that you have to have a specific month because it establishes those groups haven't done enough to be covered normally.

The months are pointless. Just needs incorporated better.

If they COULD be incorporated better, they WOULD be.

If you don't give their contributions specific focus, they will be wiped from history. This has been proven time and time again.
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Corrik posted...

CelesMyUserName posted...

Corrik posted...

scarletspeed7 posted...

Never understood the weird hatred for Black History Month and Women's History Month.

Except when WWE makes video packages about it. Those alone could turn you off to the entire affair.

Why can't you learn about Women and African Americans in history normally as part of a curriculum all year long?

... do you think we don't want that? what in the fuck how are you misunderstanding this so badly

the point is it never gets coverage normally

So you agree with me, but yet, you are still arguing to argue. Ok

Are you going to actually push for greater prevalence of black and women's history? Then sure we can stop at agreement here!
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TheRock1525 posted...

*black people are enslaved for centuries, talk about concepts like reparations*

"God you need to just get over it."

*black people get a month to celebrate their greatest figures*

"God why do you people need a month, can't we celebrate all great figures?"

This has been "How to Look Like a Complete Tool" starring Pokewars.

Putting words in my mouth. This has been "How to look like an ignorant jackass" starring TheRock.
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Corrik posted...

The months are pointless. Just needs incorporated better.

Thats the whole point.

We wouldnt talk about Benjamin Banneker or George Washington Carver without it.

When you have to scrapr the bottom of the barrel to come up with black politiciand of note thats a real sign of how blocked black access to the levers of power are. These are important revelations for children to have lest they grow up to vote for Trump.
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Pokewars posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

*black people are enslaved for centuries, talk about concepts like reparations*

"God you need to just get over it."

*black people get a month to celebrate their greatest figures*

"God why do you people need a month, can't we celebrate all great figures?"

This has been "How to Look Like a Complete Tool" starring Pokewars.

Putting words in my mouth. This has been "How to look like an ignorant jackass" starring TheRock.

But it did star The Rock, so it made more money than your film.
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We SHOULD learn about Black Americans and Female Americans in normal curriculum, without the need for special months. But again, historically, curriculum has been decided by a large white, European-descended population of males that, even if they have good intentions, don't necessarily feel compelled to highlight the achievements of people unlike themselves. Again, what you're suggestion is perfect in theory, but completely ignores reality.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Susan G. Komen... fuck, don't remind me about those con artists.

I have actually forgotten whether womens history month is October or May and they are why.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

But it did star The Rock, so it made more money than your film.

Unless it was Baywatch, then it probably lost money.
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Wasn't it Steve King from Iowa who got on TV at the RNC and said white people made almost all the important contributions to life on earth?

These people are IN OUR GOVERNMENT. That's a big reason why we need focused months.
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Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.
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History is not a fucking hard subject to teach. Start with a timeline, chronologically. Instead of whatever fables people taught about Columbus and early settlers, teach the real deal. From start to finish.
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NFUN posted...

I've only been around for about two years. Is this the worst thread in B8 history, or does that honor go to something like one of the Alpha threads I've heard so much about?

This topic doesn't even rank.

there have been some truly terrible topics in the history of board 8
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Don't forget one of the top advisers to our president said America was built by it's citizens, and when the interviewer said "who were immigrants" his response was that it was a left-wing lie.
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Pokewars posted...

History is not a fucking hard subject to teach.

The fact that we cannot agree on what history to teach suggests otherwise.
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Inviso posted...

Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.

I dont even know who steve king is.
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Pokewars posted...

History is not a fucking hard subject to teach. Start with a timeline, chronologically. Instead of whatever fables people taught about Columbus and early settlers, teach the real deal. From start to finish.

You say this as though people agree on the facts
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Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.

I dont even know who steve king is.

That said, modern society has been moreso shaped by White Europeans than any other. Chinese likely would have been the main driver of society if they hadn't torn apart their fleet prior to the Europeans coming across.

That's neither now nor then.

There is plenty to teach encompassing all in regards to history.
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Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.

I dont even know who steve king is.

Was probably Seph then
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TheRock1525 posted...

Don't forget one of the top advisers to our president said America was built by it's citizens, and when the interviewer said "who were immigrants" his response was that it was a left-wing lie.

He even pulled the old Ulti rhetorical trick of "you're smarter than that!"
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Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.

I dont even know who steve king is.

Was probably Seph then

No, it was Corrik. Seph didn't get involved in that discussion.
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Eddv posted...

I have actually forgotten whether womens history month is October or May and they are why.

It's in March.

And Susan G. Komen has little to nothing to do with Women's History Month. They're the breast cancer people.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Don't forget one of the top advisers to our president said America was built by it's citizens, and when the interviewer said "who were immigrants" his response was that it was a left-wing lie.

...Was there a follow-up?

because i could see it going a few ways
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So Corrik how do you suggest we go about incorporating black history into the education system so that having a singular month for it isn't necessary?
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xp1337 posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

Don't forget one of the top advisers to our president said America was built by it's citizens, and when the interviewer said "who were immigrants" his response was that it was a left-wing lie.

...Was there a follow-up?

because i could see it going a few ways

I think Charlie Rose just laughed at him
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Realize that women gained the vote less than 100 years ago. And the Civil Rights movement in america was just 50 years ago. (next year will mark the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's Death)

Maybe one day Women's History Month and Black History month will be unnecessary. (I don't think they even really do much with Women's History Month, I know we didn't when I was in school. Though I think there should have been) But I think they're necessary now.
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Can we at least agree that Mother's Day and Father's Day are unnecessary? I already have to listen to them lecture me enough as it is. Don't make me buy cards for them on top of that.
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Panthera posted...

So Corrik how do you suggest we go about incorporating black history into the education system so that having a singular month for it isn't necessary?

By talking about their accomplishments? I mean, not sure the answer can exactly just be spitballed on the spot. A lot of the reason there is a major lacking so much in African Americans and Women in history is the fact that they relatively were kept down for the majority of American History.

Even my African American History classes in college weren't so much different. We talked about a few more abolitionists and anti-abolitionists sure.

I mean, there was some Women and African-Americans we went over in my grade schools from Nat Turner (prob a bad example) to Frederick Douglass Betsy Ross to Amelia Earhardt.

To an extent, there is a dearth of content due to the way the history of the United States unfolded and also why you see so much more incorporation of African American and Women history as the Civil Rights era unfolds.

I don't have the time to really get into it too much as I am playing Destiny atm.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Can we at least agree that Mother's Day and Father's Day are unnecessary?

People who are pro-Mother's/Father's Day should be punched.
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Inviso posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

Corrik posted...

Inviso posted...

Also, Corrik is the guy who actively defended Steve King when he claimed white people were the only contributors to modern society, so it's kinda hard for me to take his opinion on Black/Women's History Month, because he clearly doesn't give a shit about any accomplishments by black people and doesn't care that they would be ignored in an overall curriculum.

I dont even know who steve king is.

Was probably Seph then

No, it was Corrik. Seph didn't get involved in that discussion.

Well, glad to know that I somehow supported some guy I never heard of to take a stance on a topic that I am well versed on as a history major in which I would have said exactly what I said above.
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Corrik posted...

I am well versed on as a history major

Oh god lord, you pissed that money down the drain. You didn't learn fucking anything, dude.

Edit - i say this because I'm aware of how the decent history programs tend to emphasize critical thought of primary sources. And you have demonstrated time and time again that you have zero skills in that manner.
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It was definitely Corrik, I do remember that much.

He may not have known the guy in question/where the discussion began, but that was his stance, yeah.
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Peace___Frog posted...

Corrik posted...

I am well versed on as a history major

Oh god lord, you pissed that money down the drain. You didn't learn fucking anything, dude.

Edit - i say this because I'm aware of how the decent history programs tend to emphasize critical thought of primary sources. And you have demonstrated time and time again that you have zero skills in that manner.

lmfao "okay"
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Omg have you guys really mostly filled up another topic with this same argument? Is there anything buried in here worth reading?
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kevwaffles posted...

Omg have you guys really mostly filled up another topic with this same argument? Is there anything buried in here worth reading?

not rly
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kevwaffles posted...

Omg have you guys really mostly filled up another topic with this same argument? Is there anything buried in here worth reading?

no
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