Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 134: Mars Ain't the Kind of Place to Raise Your Kids

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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:17:36 PM
#301:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Misquote. "Not the norm".


What's the difference, in your mind, between "not the norm" and "unnatural?"

Is a difference.


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Kenri
09/19/17 10:17:48 PM
#302:


Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.
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Reg
09/19/17 10:18:12 PM
#303:


CelesMyUserName posted...
corrik is literally arguing not to treat trans people well while saying we should be treating all people well

wow

And he gets angry when I call him a hateful person LOL
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:19:37 PM
#304:


Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.


Do you think conservatives getting their hooks into departments of education has led to people in red areas possibly learning an entirely different system of grammar?
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:19:44 PM
#305:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Being outraged over something you have no reason to be is on the person themself.


Again, you don't get to decide whether they have reason to be or not.

You sound like that silly girl starving herself now.

So you have no right to decide if people think anything then by that logic. You have no right to decide if a cop should have felt the need to shoot someone then correct? You have no right to ever tell a cop how they felt at the tine yes?

Your argumenr when circled back is a hell of a contradiction.

If I tell Inviso that I like their posting style, I have no right to decide it is crazy if Inviso is outraged?

Lol okay. I have the right to judge those things and properly ignore or respond to what i feel is justified or not justified reactions.
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Panthera
09/19/17 10:19:54 PM
#306:


Corrik posted...

Not been dodged. Beem answered repeatedly. No different than Black Lives Matter. There is zero reason to single out why someone should be treated well. All people should be treated well.


Okay first of if you think the existence of homosexuality and a recent political protest movement are the same thing that is really fucking weird

Second of all, you are dodging the question(s). How is it "singling out" someone when you don't single out anyone, and why do you not realize that not going into detail on the differences that exist between people simply leaves more room for bigots to convince themselves and others that whoever they dislike don't qualify as people?
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:20:16 PM
#307:


Jakyl25 posted...
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.


Do you think conservatives getting their hooks into departments of education has led to people in red areas possibly learning an entirely different system of grammar?

Nothing wrong with it.
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Inviso
09/19/17 10:20:28 PM
#308:


Homosexuality and transgenderism is only abnormal if you mentally allow it to be. "Abnormal" is a social construct, and as such, the LGBT community will continue to be "abnormal" so long as closed-minded individuals like Corrik continue to force that narrative and claim the mere suggestion of normalcy in front of children is "dangerous" and "confusing".
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:20:53 PM
#309:


CelesMyUserName posted...
corrik is literally arguing not to treat trans people well while saying we should be treating all people well

wow


Before he responds with "no im not" I would like to point out to him that he's advocating that these people hide who they are from children
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JeffreyRaze
09/19/17 10:21:59 PM
#310:


Corrik, do you consider being abnormal and/or unnatural to be a bad thing? Do you think being called either or both is insulting?
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:22:07 PM
#311:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.


Do you think conservatives getting their hooks into departments of education has led to people in red areas possibly learning an entirely different system of grammar?

Nothing wrong with it.


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Panthera
09/19/17 10:22:12 PM
#312:


Corrik posted...

So you have no right to decide if people think anything then by that logic


No, you don't have the right to decide what people think. That's 1984 material. Your examples are of disagreeing with their thoughts or the actions taken based on them, not the fact that they have those thoughts in the first place.
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Kenri
09/19/17 10:22:43 PM
#313:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.


Do you think conservatives getting their hooks into departments of education has led to people in red areas possibly learning an entirely different system of grammar?

Nothing wrong with it.

Yeah but if you swap out "wrong" with "right" then you're admitting it's a bad idea.
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:23:22 PM
#314:


Panthera posted...
Corrik posted...

Not been dodged. Beem answered repeatedly. No different than Black Lives Matter. There is zero reason to single out why someone should be treated well. All people should be treated well.


Okay first of if you think the existence of homosexuality and a recent political protest movement are the same thing that is really fucking weird

Second of all, you are dodging the question(s). How is it "singling out" someone when you don't single out anyone, and why do you not realize that not going into detail on the differences that exist between people simply leaves more room for bigots to convince themselves and others that whoever they dislike don't qualify as people?

I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

Quite simply a matter that should be taught to a developed and matured mind.
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:24:27 PM
#315:


Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Kenri posted...
Corrik posted...
If I did something illegal and someone said I did something illegal should I be outraged? Same deal but just change illegal to abnormal.

I know there's a lot going on but I just want to point out that this statement displays a basic inability to grasp how words work.


Do you think conservatives getting their hooks into departments of education has led to people in red areas possibly learning an entirely different system of grammar?

Nothing wrong with it.

Yeah but if you swap out "wrong" with "right" then you're admitting it's a bad idea.

Your only issue could be a comma, and if you are going to resort to lol missing a comma on a message board, then you have given up.
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CelesMyUserName
09/19/17 10:24:27 PM
#316:


Corrik posted...
I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms

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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:24:49 PM
#317:


Corrik posted...
So you have no right to decide if people think anything then by that logic. You have no right to decide if a cop should have felt the need to shoot someone then correct? You have no right to ever tell a cop how they felt at the tine yes?


Correct. We can have opinions about what they say that they felt, but we can never actually definitively state how they felt.

How they felt is also very different than the actions they take as a result of those feelings
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Kenri
09/19/17 10:25:45 PM
#318:


Corrik posted...
I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

tag urself i'm the transgender riot squad that permeates kindergartens
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:26:01 PM
#319:


I'm starting to understand why people Corrik talks to IRL think he's going to hell
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LordoftheMorons
09/19/17 10:27:08 PM
#320:


TheRock1525 posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
GRAHAM-CASSIDY UPDATE:

Alexander claims that bipartisan efforts to shore up Obamacare fell through. Schumer responded by detailing some of the concessions Dems had put on the table, which were not negligible. It appears quite likely that McConnell forced Alexander to kill the negotiations in order to increase Graham-Cassidy's odds of passing.


Is this really gonna come down to McCain again?

We need two out of three of McCain, Murkowski, and Rand Paul not being full of shit (assuming Collins is a pretty safe no).
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:27:23 PM
#321:


Panthera posted...
Corrik posted...

So you have no right to decide if people think anything then by that logic


No, you don't have the right to decide what people think. That's 1984 material. Your examples are of disagreeing with their thoughts or the actions taken based on them, not the fact that they have those thoughts in the first place.

Okay? I never said Inviso cannot be outraged. I said, Inviso is outraged over nothing. Which was replied that you aren't allowed to decide what is means to be outraged. Your post agrees I am right and Jakyl is wrong, for the record.
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:27:52 PM
#322:


Didn't Murkowski talk about how moved she was by the reception at the airport after she voted no?
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FFDragon
09/19/17 10:27:54 PM
#323:


https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/910233358688571394

"whoops"
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CelesMyUserName
09/19/17 10:29:05 PM
#324:


blTBEfK
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:29:10 PM
#325:


Jakyl25 posted...
I'm starting to understand why people Corrik talks to IRL think he's going to hell

I can assure you they think every last one of you are going to hell too. Lol =P

You think I have a bad view on gays or transgenders... lolol. Talk to some religious conservatives.
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LordoftheMorons
09/19/17 10:30:26 PM
#326:


Yep

Luckily Alaska's governor has come out against GC, so hopefully she'll vote no. I'm sure the pressure from McConnell will be enormous, though.

I think Graham being one of the authors is likely a significant complication for McCain (though I would guess he'd be better able to resist pressure from McConnell than most).
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Kenri
09/19/17 10:30:27 PM
#327:


Corrik posted...
You think I have a bad view on gays or transgenders... lolol. Talk to some religious conservatives.

grew up surrounded by them and they sound extremely similar to you
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Panthera
09/19/17 10:30:50 PM
#328:


Corrik posted...

I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

Quite simply a matter that should be taught to a developed and matured mind.


Transgender riot squad

You'll forgive me if I don't know what that is.

Why do you think that acknowledging transgender people is singling them out as opposed to simply treating them the same as anyone else? Do you think schools should also never reference black people?
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:31:20 PM
#329:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
So you have no right to decide if people think anything then by that logic. You have no right to decide if a cop should have felt the need to shoot someone then correct? You have no right to ever tell a cop how they felt at the tine yes?


Correct. We can have opinions about what they say that they felt, but we can never actually definitively state how they felt.

How they felt is also very different than the actions they take as a result of those feelings

And I said if Inviso is outraged for something that there is no reason to be then that is on Inviso. Never said Inviso was not outraged. On Inviso though because there is no reason to be
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Inviso
09/19/17 10:32:25 PM
#330:


Corrik is probably one of those people that unironically thinks we need a "White History Month" if we're gonna have a "Black History Month" despite "White History Month" being the other eleven months of the fucking year.
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:33:09 PM
#331:


Panthera posted...
Corrik posted...

I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

Quite simply a matter that should be taught to a developed and matured mind.


Transgender riot squad

You'll forgive me if I don't know what that is.

Why do you think that acknowledging transgender people is singling them out as opposed to simply treating them the same as anyone else? Do you think schools should also never reference black people?

I don't think it exists, Panthera! .
Why should someone be singled out by their skin color? No one should ever have to be singled out.

Singling out people by whatever reason is a part of the problem.
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JeffreyRaze
09/19/17 10:33:45 PM
#332:


JeffreyRaze posted...
Corrik, do you consider being abnormal and/or unnatural to be a bad thing? Do you think being called either or both is insulting?

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Corrik
09/19/17 10:34:08 PM
#333:


Inviso posted...
Corrik is probably one of those people that unironically thinks we need a "White History Month" if we're gonna have a "Black History Month" despite "White History Month" being the other eleven months of the fucking year.

Nope. Corrik is one of those people who thinks we should have neither White or Black History Month. Have a "History Month" or none at all.
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CelesMyUserName
09/19/17 10:34:40 PM
#334:


Corrik posted...
Panthera posted...
Corrik posted...

I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

Quite simply a matter that should be taught to a developed and matured mind.


Transgender riot squad

You'll forgive me if I don't know what that is.

Why do you think that acknowledging transgender people is singling them out as opposed to simply treating them the same as anyone else? Do you think schools should also never reference black people?

I don't think it exists, Panthera! .
Why should someone be singled out by their skin color? No one should ever have to be singled out.

Singling out people by whatever reason is a part of the problem.

You're singling transgender folk out by saying kids shouldn't know they exists. They're allowed to know straight people exist just fine.
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Pokewars
09/19/17 10:35:32 PM
#335:


How about just people that actually contributed to the advancement of humanity being celebrated throughout the whole year?


.......nah, better to arbitrarily divide people based on whatever group people want to lump them in.
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:35:45 PM
#336:


JeffreyRaze posted...
JeffreyRaze posted...
Corrik, do you consider being abnormal and/or unnatural to be a bad thing? Do you think being called either or both is insulting?

I do not think it is a bad thing. I think it is a matter of fact thing.

I think it is no different than someone saying I have blue eyes or someone saying I walk abnormally due to my miniere's disease.
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Inviso
09/19/17 10:36:26 PM
#337:


Oh, so instead of an 11/1 split, you'd prefer it to be 12/0. Gotcha. Can't have white people like Corrik getting scared that all the shit they've historically done to other races might come back to bite them in the ass.
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Panthera
09/19/17 10:37:40 PM
#338:


Corrik posted...

Why should someone be singled out by their skin color? No one should ever have to be singled out.

Singling out people by whatever reason is a part of the problem.


Where did you get this idea that acknowledging the existence of something is "singling it out"? The entire point is that to truly preach acceptance of everyone, you have to acknowledge everyone. Neither transgender nor black people are being singled out, that is literally the point.
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:37:44 PM
#339:


Inviso posted...
Corrik is probably one of those people that unironically thinks we need a "White History Month" if we're gonna have a "Black History Month" despite "White History Month" being the other eleven months of the fucking year.


All 12 really
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:37:46 PM
#340:


CelesMyUserName posted...
Corrik posted...
Panthera posted...
Corrik posted...

I can imagine the transgender riot squad that permeates these kindergarten classrooms if you don't specifically tell them to like someone for a reason they don't understand instead of teaching them to be nice to everyone.

Quite simply a matter that should be taught to a developed and matured mind.


Transgender riot squad

You'll forgive me if I don't know what that is.

Why do you think that acknowledging transgender people is singling them out as opposed to simply treating them the same as anyone else? Do you think schools should also never reference black people?

I don't think it exists, Panthera! .
Why should someone be singled out by their skin color? No one should ever have to be singled out.

Singling out people by whatever reason is a part of the problem.

You're singling transgender folk out by saying kids shouldn't know they exists. They're allowed to know straight people exist just fine.

I am also not advocating about knowing about straight sex or anything. I said all sexual matters should be taught to a mature mind and parents should be forewarned and allowed to have the child sit it out if they object.
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Panthera
09/19/17 10:39:04 PM
#341:


Inviso posted...
Oh, so instead of an 11/1 split, you'd prefer it to be 12/0. Gotcha. Can't have white people like Corrik getting scared that all the shit they've historically done to other races might come back to bite them in the ass.


Genetic guilt, the best kind
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:39:16 PM
#342:


Pokewars posted...
How about just people that actually contributed to the advancement of humanity being celebrated throughout the whole year?


.......nah, better to arbitrarily divide people based on whatever group people want to lump them in.


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Corrik
09/19/17 10:39:35 PM
#343:


Inviso posted...
Oh, so instead of an 11/1 split, you'd prefer it to be 12/0. Gotcha. Can't have white people like Corrik getting scared that all the shit they've historically done to other races might come back to bite them in the ass.

Makes no sense but ok.
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:39:58 PM
#344:


Corrik posted...
I am also not advocating about knowing about straight sex or anything. I said all sexual matters should be taught to a mature mind and parents should be forewarned and allowed to have the child sit it out if they object.


So they shouldn't know that their mom and dad are in a relationship?
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Eddv
09/19/17 10:40:00 PM
#345:


Transgender riot squad.

What the actual fuck corrik
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Corrik
09/19/17 10:40:18 PM
#346:


Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
I am also not advocating about knowing about straight sex or anything. I said all sexual matters should be taught to a mature mind and parents should be forewarned and allowed to have the child sit it out if they object.


So they shouldn't know that their mom and dad are in a relationship?

What
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JeffreyRaze
09/19/17 10:40:36 PM
#347:


Corrik posted...
JeffreyRaze posted...
JeffreyRaze posted...
Corrik, do you consider being abnormal and/or unnatural to be a bad thing? Do you think being called either or both is insulting?

I do not think it is a bad thing. I think it is a matter of fact thing.

I think it is no different than someone saying I have blue eyes or someone saying I walk abnormally due to my miniere's disease.

Okay, to understand where everyone else in the thread is coming from, you need to realize that in common parlance abnormal/unnatural carries negative connotations. Calling someone abnormal is an insult as far as the majority of the world is concerned.
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Jakyl25
09/19/17 10:41:25 PM
#348:


Corrik posted...
saying I walk abnormally due to my miniere's disease.


Most people would feel insulted by someone singling that out. I presume you don't but still.

Also we can never tell the kids why you walk that way.
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CelesMyUserName
09/19/17 10:41:39 PM
#349:


Corrik posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
I am also not advocating about knowing about straight sex or anything. I said all sexual matters should be taught to a mature mind and parents should be forewarned and allowed to have the child sit it out if they object.


So they shouldn't know that their mom and dad are in a relationship?

What

Mom and dad being a straight relationship.
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Eddv
09/19/17 10:41:59 PM
#350:


Pokewars posted...
......nah, better to arbitrarily divide people based on whatever group people want to lump them in.



If race were merely arbitrary history would be a lot different.

It may be arbitrary genetically but thats basically where the arbitrariness fucking stops.
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