Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 134: Mars Ain't the Kind of Place to Raise Your Kids

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Jakyl25 posted...

Who ever said "forcing?"

Corrik's stance is and always has been that if you do something that acknowledges the existence of something, you're forcing it upon somebody.
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Corrik posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

Corrik posted...

You are like a walking contradiction.

this is fucking rich

It's true.

Pardon me if I do not value your analysis of what is true and what is false. You've demonstrated how poorly you can decipher the two many times over.


Thanks for the run down, scarlet. I'd be pissed if someone who lied to me invoked my name to pursue their goals, too.
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charmander6000 posted...

Fair enough, however teaching someone sex-ed at age 12 is a bit late. Girls typically get their first period between the ages 10-15 so to teach them sex-ed when around half the female class has already shown physical signs of puberty is illogical.

It would be like writing a final exam and then being taught the course. The information is nice, but they could have used it earlier.

Just let them learn through fear like Sansa Stark.
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nothing bad has ever happened to girls who didn't understand their bodies. Carrie turned out just fine!
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Peace___Frog posted...

nothing bad has ever happened to girls who didn't understand their bodies. Carrie turned out just fine!

She was like 17 (ignoring the fact it's fiction).

But, I guess, you are right. If we do not teach 5 year olds about transgender sexuality, they will grow up and kill people via telekinetic thoughts.
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charmander6000 posted...

Corrik posted...

charmander6000 posted...

Another thing missing from yesterday's discussion is whether Corrik thinks if there is an appropriate age group to talk about the existence of trans- (and homo- I guess) sexuals and what age that would be.

When you do sex ed in school with parent notification and the ability to opt out if you wish to teaxh your child it yourself.

10-13 years old range imo. I would go with 12.

Fair enough, however teaching someone sex-ed at age 12 is a bit late. Girls typically get their first period between the ages 10-15 so to teach them sex-ed when around half the female class has already shown physical signs of puberty is illogical.

It would be like writing a final exam and then being taught the course. The information is nice, but they could have used it earlier.

Fair enough.
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"Sometimes a person was born a boy or girl, but they were supposed to be a girl or boy. This is okay and is just as normal as being born a redhead, for example." It's not that hard to explain.
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Espeon posted...

just as normal as being born a redhead

So you agree with Corrik that transgendered people are unnatural then.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Espeon posted...

just as normal as being born a redhead

So you agree with Corrik that transgendered people are unnatural then.

10/10 joke. Would read again.
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Corrik posted...

If we do not teach 5 year olds about transgender sexuality, they will grow up and kill people via telekinetic thoughts.

I'm glad you finally understand.
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What's sexual about being transgender anyway?
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I'll watch the Jimmy Kimmel clip later but it sounds like a verbal lashing for a talkshow host, thanks for sharing.
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Imagine what conservatives could do if they weren't so afraid of teaching kids about real life.

Actually wait, I don't want to know what they could do
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I'd just like to point out that this topic has spent nearly the full 500 posts arguing with conservative outrage over explaining transgenderism to kindergarteners when one of their classmates was transgender. Meanwhile, not a fucking peep about the South Carolina teacher that gave an assignment to her fifth graders that required them to justify the KKK.
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Remember when conservatives were upset by Kathy Griffin holding up a fake Trump head?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/19/south-dakota-lawmaker-shares-all-lives-splatter-meme/683589001/


I wonder how many are upset by this "All Lives Splatter" meme posted by a GOP Representative.
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Espeon posted...

I'd just like to point out that this topic has spent nearly the full 500 posts arguing with conservative outrage over explaining transgenderism to kindergarteners when one of their classmates was transgender. Meanwhile, not a fucking peep about the South Carolina teacher that gave an assignment to her fifth graders that required them to justify the KKK.

There's a separate topic about it

And I got called an idiot for saying it wasn't a good assignment
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HashtagSEP posted...

Espeon posted...

I'd just like to point out that this topic has spent nearly the full 500 posts arguing with conservative outrage over explaining transgenderism to kindergarteners when one of their classmates was transgender. Meanwhile, not a fucking peep about the South Carolina teacher that gave an assignment to her fifth graders that required them to justify the KKK.

There's a separate topic about it

And I got called an idiot for saying it wasn't a good assignment

Oh, it's a full throttle Topic. That got 15 posts. My point is what the conservatives on this board pick and choose to whine about. 470 posts dedicated to debating whether or not transgenderism should be normalized for children; 0 posts about normalizing and defending the KKK for children.
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I don't get how teaching about the existence of gay people somehow involves sex. Like, I'm in a relationship with another man, we're both asexual. It isn't really even a part of our relationship.

How horrible are your romantic relationships if the only thing that differentiates them from anything else is that sex is involved?
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Espeon posted...

470 posts dedicated to debating whether or not transgenderism should be normalized for children; 0 posts about normalizing and defending the KKK for children.

liberals are the ones who "choose ridiculous hills to die on," though.
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CasanovaZelos posted...

How horrible are your romantic relationships if the only thing that differentiates them from anything else is that sex is involved?

This is one of THE TOP ills of society. It's the basis of so many issues.
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Espeon posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Espeon posted...

I'd just like to point out that this topic has spent nearly the full 500 posts arguing with conservative outrage over explaining transgenderism to kindergarteners when one of their classmates was transgender. Meanwhile, not a fucking peep about the South Carolina teacher that gave an assignment to her fifth graders that required them to justify the KKK.

There's a separate topic about it

And I got called an idiot for saying it wasn't a good assignment

Oh, it's a full throttle Topic. That got 15 posts. My point is what the conservatives on this board pick and choose to whine about. 470 posts dedicated to debating whether or not transgenderism should be normalized for children; 0 posts about normalizing and defending the KKK for children.

Thank you all for alerting me to the topic so I can go die on more absurd liberal hills
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somehow the most shocking thing I learned in this topic is that there are people that don't have FT on ignore
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Join me on the hill, Jakyl

Our celebrities may tear us apart, but our children shall not!
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i wonder what corrik does if he's walking down the street with his child and they encounter two men kissing. shut his kid's eyes? "HE'S TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND HE CAN'T HANDLE IT"
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FFDragon posted...

somehow the most shocking thing I learned in this topic is that there are people that don't have FT on ignore

I sometimes enjoy reading clickbait news at work to pass time, so sometimes his topics alert me to something semi-interesting.
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I explained transgender stuff to my kid when she was five. When she was asked what she feels like she is inside, she said "deep down, I feel like I'm a donut"
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/910476107287269376

Rand Paul is a friend of mine but he is such a negative force when it comes to fixing healthcare. Graham-Cassidy Bill is GREAT! Ends Ocare!

Ocare, lol
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FFDragon posted...

somehow the most shocking thing I learned in this topic is that there are people that don't have FT on ignore

FT is legit one of the more entertaining things on the board these days

I'm not sure if that speaks more to his topics or the quality of the board but hey
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neonreaper posted...

When she was asked what she feels like she is inside, she said "deep down, I feel like I'm a donut"

This is grand.

Out of all this debate, was it ever clear how the book covered her transgender identity? Like was this a DIY book, a story about her chasing butterflies and labeling fruit she sees along the way, or...?
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CasanovaZelos posted...

I don't get how teaching about the existence of gay people somehow involves sex. Like, I'm in a relationship with another man, we're both asexual. It isn't really even a part of our relationship.

How horrible are your romantic relationships if the only thing that differentiates them from anything else is that sex is involved?

Intimacy is an important part in a relationship. Without it how is it any different than having a best friend/roommate/business partner? It doesn't have to involve sex though.
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/910476107287269376

Rand Paul is a friend of mine but he is such a negative force when it comes to fixing healthcare. Graham-Cassidy Bill is GREAT! Ends Ocare!

Donald opens national televised debates by shitting on his friends and calling them ugly.
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The Mana Sword posted...

FT is legit one of the more entertaining things on the board these days

I'm not sure if that speaks more to his topics or the quality of the board but hey

I agree 100%.
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FFDragon posted...

somehow the most shocking thing I learned in this topic is that there are people that don't have FT on ignore

Dude his topic titles with their bizarre terminology and nonsense capitalization are way too good to pass up
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UltiXX posted...

Teaching sex to underaged children is creepy, wrong, and immoral. I don't care if they're being taught about sexuality that's straight, gay, or whatever else. Kindergarten kids aren't thinking about that stuff normally and have it forced on them by nutjobs.

Corrik posted...

charmander6000 posted...

Another thing missing from yesterday's discussion is whether Corrik thinks if there is an appropriate age group to talk about the existence of trans- (and homo- I guess) sexuals and what age that would be.

When you do sex ed in school with parent notification and the ability to opt out if you wish to teaxh your child it yourself.

10-13 years old range imo. I would go with 12.

Early sex ed is about protecting children from sexual predators taking advantage of them. Your discomfort over education leaves children vulnerable as they figure that stuff out on their own. *ESPECIALLY* in the advanced age of the Internet where kids have been bumping into hentai by googling their favourite cartoons for decades.
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FT is a treasure
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charmander6000 posted...

CasanovaZelos posted...

I don't get how teaching about the existence of gay people somehow involves sex. Like, I'm in a relationship with another man, we're both asexual. It isn't really even a part of our relationship.

How horrible are your romantic relationships if the only thing that differentiates them from anything else is that sex is involved?

Intimacy is an important part in a relationship. Without it how is it any different than having a best friend/roommate/business partner? It doesn't have to involve sex though.

That's exactly what I'm saying...

Like, you see the problem with reducing romantic relationships to nothing but sex, right? The majority of the time I spend with a romantic partner is rather similar to what I do with my non-romantic friends. We watch movies, play games together, discuss our lives, whatever. There's intimacy, yes, but there's so much more going on. Yet people like Corrik and Ulti immediately jump to sexualizing relationships, as if that's all gay men (or even straight people) do with each other.
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neonreaper posted...

I explained transgender stuff to my kid when she was five. When she was asked what she feels like she is inside, she said "deep down, I feel like I'm a donut"

I haven't explained transgender to my kids yet (not sure I need to, but I wouldn't object to the school doing it, especially if there was a transgender student in the class)

I did explain to them sometimes boys marry boys, and sometimes girls marry girls. They just said "Okay daddy," like I had just told them the sky is blue, or grass is green.
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The only reason you cannot explain something to your kids is if you don't understand it well enough to explain it.

And that's the problem with conservatives - they don't understand, and they're scared of their kids understanding something they don't, so they treat it like all ignorant people treat things they don't understand - with fear and superstition.

So kids grow up learning to fear what the boogeymen that their parents convinced them LGBT people are, and then confronted with one, their fear turns to anger and they murder people.

The worst part? I think gay panic/trans panic is still considered an acceptable defense in several courts... I would love to be proven wrong on this.
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BowserCuffs posted...

The only reason you cannot explain something to your kids is if you don't understand it well enough to explain it.

And that's the problem with conservatives - they don't understand, and they're scared of their kids understanding something they don't, so they treat it like all ignorant people treat things they don't understand - with fear and superstition.

So kids grow up learning to fear what the boogeymen that their parents convinced them LGBT people are, and then confronted with one, their fear turns to anger and they murder people.

The worst part? I think gay panic/trans panic is still considered an acceptable defense in several courts... I would love to be proven wrong on this.

lmfao. This post happened.
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Corrik posted...

lmfao. This post happened.

yes, people get killed for being gay. this is very tragic and not lmfao-worthy.
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Corrik, urgh
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Holy shit I skipped 5 pages and this is still going on
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

lmfao. This post happened.

yes, people get killed for being gay. this is very tragic and not lmfao-worthy.

And the likelihood of getting murdered for being trans is very high.

Thankfully, not as high as some sources say, but still way too damn high.

This is what happens when you don't educate your kids.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

lmfao. This post happened.

yes, people get killed for being gay. this is very tragic and not lmfao-worthy.

People kill cats. Think I saw a story about a guy throwing cats out a window on the highway just recently.

I am completely sure it is because his parents taught him cats were the big bad boogeyman.

The post is literally fabrication. It is no better than Peaf's literal Carrie reference.
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That's....literally what Carrie is about though
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Jakyl25 posted...

That's....literally what Carrie is about though

Carrie is not about transgender children. It is about a girl who had to deal with a parent who had mental illness and how despite her best attempts to conform and fit in her mother's illness consumed and ruined her life to the point she couldn't handle it anymore.

(or you could argue it is about a girl who harbors a great evil and how it drove her mother insane trying to contain that evil while also preserving her love for her daughter).

What a great story.
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Corrik posted...

The post is literally fabrication.

...why the hell would you say that?

parents aren't the ONLY factor in the murders of gay/bi/trans people, sure. perhaps the killer did it because they read an opinion piece on breitbart on how those people are the devil. perhaps the killer was just shitty and crazy. but to say "nope, parents had 0% influence in all gay/bi/trans murders ever" makes absolutely no sense.
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Have we managed a full topic of bitching with Corrik yet?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

The post is literally fabrication.

...why the hell would you say that?

parents aren't the ONLY factor in the murders of gay/bi/trans people, sure. perhaps the killer did it because they read an opinion piece on breitbart on how those people are the devil. perhaps the killer was just shitty and crazy. but to say "nope, parents had 0% influence in all gay/bi/trans murders ever" makes absolutely no sense.

I said the post is fabrication because not teaching kids about transgender people at literal age 5 has shit to do with being scared of transgender people or making them into a boogeyman. It was literally made for shock and sympathy effect. Post had zero to do with anything.
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SupremeZero posted...

Have we managed a full topic of bitching with Corrik yet?

Yes

Go Heels
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