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Mal_Fet
09/13/17 2:20:04 PM
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Remember when the left said Trump was being ridiculous for saying "What's next, removing statues of Thomas Jefferson?"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/09/13/thomas-jefferson-statue-at-u-va-shrouded-in-black/?utm_term=.ae40873b3eed

About 100 people gathered for the protest Tuesday night, according to the Daily Progress. They covered the statue of the university’s founder, and signs reading “racist” and “rapist” were placed on it.

Speakers at the rally pressed the university to comply with demands made by the Black Student Alliance last month that included removing Confederate plaques from the university’s rotunda and banning white supremacist groups from campus, the Daily Progress reported.


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Mal_Fet
09/13/17 3:06:47 PM
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Bump
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darkphoenix181
09/13/17 3:14:32 PM
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do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?
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weapon_d00d816
09/13/17 3:19:24 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?

The question isn't whether he was or not, but whether it actually matters considering his time period and if it was so severe that it drowns out his accomplishments (it doesn't).
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Kyurem-BW
09/13/17 3:23:22 PM
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@darkphoenix181 posted...
do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?

do you believe it is right to vandalize the statue of a founding father of the United states? one of the 56 who signed the declaration of independence?
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unpleasant_milk
09/13/17 3:24:45 PM
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Morons.
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Zikten
09/13/17 3:25:12 PM
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I oppose anything done by BLM. fuck those racists
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SavenForever
09/13/17 3:25:25 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?


Keep dodging.
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Buzz Killjoy
09/13/17 3:27:36 PM
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If you honestly feel this way about Thomas Jefferson you should not even be a student at UVA.

They shove so much Jefferson history in your face, it would be impossible to not get triggered.

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davyheinz
09/13/17 3:29:01 PM
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They're just doing this to troll you, Mal.
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A_Good_Boy
09/13/17 3:37:24 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
@darkphoenix181 posted...
do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?

do you believe it is right to vandalize the statue of a founding father of the United states? one of the 56 who signed the declaration of independence?

Sure thing. It's just a statue. Not like they're digging up his corpse to desecrate it.
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The Admiral
09/13/17 3:39:43 PM
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Hope these degenerates are expelled.

Also, I'm assuming these students were too stupid to realize who founded the college they were applying to. Not sure why you'd willingly attend UVA if this was actually an issue.
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Esrac
09/13/17 3:43:31 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
@darkphoenix181 posted...
do you believe Thomas Jefferson was not a racist?

do you believe it is right to vandalize the statue of a founding father of the United states? one of the 56 who signed the declaration of independence?

Sure thing. It's just a statue. Not like they're digging up his corpse to desecrate it.


Yet.
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uwnim
09/13/17 3:46:35 PM
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Why would they be protesting him?
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prettyprincess
09/13/17 3:47:55 PM
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peaceful protest isn't degeneracy, the vandalism is arguable if it causes some cost of repair or physically alters the artwork/property
article made it seem like there were just signs placed near it but I skimmed

I think this protest and sentiment is mostly misplaced though
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__aCEr__
09/13/17 3:48:59 PM
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Yeah if you don't like Jefferson, UVA is the last place you should have applied to.
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Capn Circus
09/13/17 3:51:08 PM
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Once again Trump turns out to be right.

Of course they'll go after other statues. If we continue to pacify this behavior, our entire constitution and principles of our nation will be dismantled because "they were racist".
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Newhopes
09/13/17 3:55:31 PM
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ISIS strikes again.
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LordRazziel
09/13/17 3:58:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Hope these degenerates are expelled.

Also, I'm assuming these students were too stupid to realize who founded the college they were applying to. Not sure why you'd willingly attend UVA if this was actually an issue.

Don't you constantly say people need to not use their emotions?
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AlephZero
09/13/17 3:58:32 PM
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uwnim posted...
Why would they be protesting him?

he was a white cis male
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A_Good_Boy
09/13/17 4:00:16 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
The Admiral posted...
Hope these degenerates are expelled.

Also, I'm assuming these students were too stupid to realize who founded the college they were applying to. Not sure why you'd willingly attend UVA if this was actually an issue.

Don't you constantly say people need to not use their emotions?

Addy's like CEs Donald Trump. Always criticizing others for behaviors or actions he gleefully does himself.
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Howl
09/13/17 4:03:07 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Once again Trump turns out to be right.

Of course they'll go after other statues. If we continue to pacify this behavior, our entire constitution and principles of our nation will be dismantled because "they were racist".


People are already saying the United States was only ever great for white men.
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Newhopes
09/13/17 4:04:53 PM
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Howl posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Once again Trump turns out to be right.

Of course they'll go after other statues. If we continue to pacify this behavior, our entire constitution and principles of our nation will be dismantled because "they were racist".


People are already saying the United States was only ever great for white men.


Why don't they just leave then nobody will stop them?
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/13/17 4:05:03 PM
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Not surprised. Social liberalism is the disease that's slowly killing this great country.

All those idiots need to be expelled.
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creativerealms
09/13/17 4:06:39 PM
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The people on the left who want to take down Thomas Jefferson statues are the silly ones. When it comes to the confederate statues they are only up to celebrate slavery and a lost way to scare blacks and other minorities. With Thomas Jefferson his statues have nothing to do with the fact he owned slaves and everything to do with what he did for america. You don't have to like everything someone believes in or did to realize he also did a lot of good.
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QwelzaarKane
09/13/17 4:06:42 PM
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weapon_d00d816 posted...
whether it actually matters considering his time period


Slavery has always been terrible and slave owners have always been terrible people. We're not talking about grandma's private racism here.

Thomas Jefferson did great things for this country, but he was also a racist P.O.S. (like a lot of people back then). It's not hard to see why certain groups don't like seeing him honored while ignoring all the bad.
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creativerealms
09/13/17 4:07:13 PM
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...
Not surprised. Social liberalism is the disease that's slowly killing this great country.

All those idiots need to be expelled.

Because these people represent all on the left right?
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Zikten
09/13/17 4:09:11 PM
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QwelzaarKane posted...
It's not hard to see why certain groups don't like seeing him honored while ignoring all the bad.

because if you do that, you have to attack almost all historical people. very few people from the past lived up to 21st century moral standards. you can find dirt on almost anyone.
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A_Good_Boy
09/13/17 4:14:25 PM
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Zikten posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
It's not hard to see why certain groups don't like seeing him honored while ignoring all the bad.

because if you do that, you have to attack almost all historical people. very few people from the past lived up to 21st century moral standards. you can find dirt on almost anyone.

Meh
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Howl
09/13/17 4:15:11 PM
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Zikten posted...
QwelzaarKane posted...
It's not hard to see why certain groups don't like seeing him honored while ignoring all the bad.

because if you do that, you have to attack almost all historical people. very few people from the past lived up to 21st century moral standards. you can find dirt on almost anyone.


No one, even today lives up to 21st century moral standards.
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Zikten
09/13/17 4:16:49 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Meh

so your ok with just attacking all of history? and never honoring anyone ever again?
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GreatEvilEmpire
09/13/17 4:18:29 PM
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creativerealms posted...

Because these people represent all on the left right?


Social liberalism represents the extreme left, not all of the left. That's why I specifically refer to social liberals and not all liberals.
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Kyurem-BW
09/13/17 4:21:20 PM
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@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?
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Mal_Fet
09/13/17 4:41:55 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?

Give it time. The left always eats itself.
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boxington
09/13/17 4:44:50 PM
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Kyurem-BW posted...
@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?

I mean, as far as we know, MLK Jr. didn't act on his homophobia.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, though.
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Zikten
09/13/17 4:45:47 PM
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boxington posted...
I mean, as far as we know, MLK Jr. didn't act on his homophobia.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, though.

because it was common and encouraged. if it had been common and encouraged in the 60's to enslave gay people, MLK would have done it
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Mal_Fet
09/13/17 4:46:47 PM
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boxington posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?

I mean, as far as we know, MLK Jr. didn't act on his homophobia.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, though.

Gandhi acted on his racism against Blacks in India. Shall we deface all likenesses of him?
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boxington
09/13/17 4:50:26 PM
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I'm just saying that you can't always help how you feel, but you can control what you do and say.

people can do what they want to their monuments (through I wouldn't support hard work being damaged like that), but the comparisons aren't fair.

because it was common and encouraged. if it had been common and encouraged in the 60's to enslave gay people, MLK would have done it


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nativengine
09/13/17 4:50:27 PM
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Give fuckers an inch, they take a mile.
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Zikten
09/13/17 4:50:32 PM
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yea Gandhi HATED black people. probably even more than Jefferson did. you should see some of the stuff he said about them
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A_Good_Boy
09/13/17 4:51:08 PM
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Mal_Fet posted...
boxington posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?

I mean, as far as we know, MLK Jr. didn't act on his homophobia.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, though.

Gandhi acted on his racism against Blacks in India. Shall we deface all likenesses of him?

Do you believe that Africans are obligated to view him in the same light that you do?
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Giant_Aspirin
09/13/17 4:51:37 PM
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i sure hope Mal_Fet is smart enough to realize that this was a small group of people and does not represent "the left"
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Zikten
09/13/17 4:52:28 PM
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Mal_Fet
09/13/17 4:56:37 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Do you believe that Africans are obligated to view him in the same light that you do?

No of course not.

But since when has that prevented suburban leftists from getting violently offended on others' behalf?
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darkphoenix181
09/13/17 5:11:37 PM
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all I got to do is ask an innocent question and people start foaming at the mouth
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Esrac
09/13/17 5:13:40 PM
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Zikten posted...
yea Gandhi HATED black people. probably even more than Jefferson did. you should see some of the stuff he said about them


Jefferson didn't even hate black people. Yeah, he was racist. He absolutely thought blacks were innately inferior to whites, but he didn't necessarily hate them. As I recall, he had actually proposed a plan to gradually free the slaves, train them in useful trades, and deport them. The deportation thing was mostly because he figured there would be too much bitterness and resentment between whites and blacks over slavery for them to live together peacefully.
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Zeeak4444
09/13/17 5:17:21 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
boxington posted...
Kyurem-BW posted...
@QwelzaarKane
so if he was a pos for being racist when that was acceptable what does that make MLK Jr for being anti-gay back when that was acceptable?

I mean, as far as we know, MLK Jr. didn't act on his homophobia.

Thomas Jefferson was a slave owner, though.

Gandhi acted on his racism against Blacks in India. Shall we deface all likenesses of him?

Do you believe that Africans are obligated to view him in the same light that you do?


Do you think anyone's obligated to view Jefferson in the same light that you do @A_Good_Boy?
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NinjaWarrior455
09/13/17 5:19:10 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i sure hope Mal_Fet is smart enough

Nope. No he is not.
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