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Thank you all for posting and keeping the topic going. You know the rules by now. Post anything Geek related. Comic books, video games, music, wrestling, board games, movies, television, etc... As long as it's Geek related or interesting.

Per usual we have an opening question to keep the topic going, and that question is:

"Who is your favorite and least favorite video game protagonist and antagonist? Explain why."

Bonus Question: How could their appearance in the game have been improved to make the experience actually enjoyable?

Wrap up from "Super Geek Odyssey" coming up!
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Post'n to post.

Tagging in.
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Red Six, standing by.


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I never realized how eerily similar Tim Curry looks like Jimmy Fallon before.

Gods, I'd have a hell of a time trying to choose favorites and least favorites in the games I've experienced.

I know that FFVIII's Squall could have improved greatly if we Americans had gotten the Japanese version where the man actually talked and had development, as opposed to the dumbass we got whose lines were cut down simply to "..." and "Nope."

XII's Vaan could have been better by not existing. At all.

The same for that spineless little shit in the Tales of Symphonia sequel we must never name.

If Asbel from Tales of Graces were smacked over the head with even an ounce of common sense, not only would he have been a better character in general but also half or more of the game would not have happened.

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Compare to Claude from "Star Ocean 2." At the start, he's an ensign in his father's shadow who ends up on an alien world with no apparent way to get back home. He still tries to find a way back or to be rescued, but he spends the first half of the game helping others because he recognizes wrong from right, and isn't one to stand by as bad things just happen. In the middle of the game, he's given the hard choice of going home with his father's crew, or stay behind to help his new friends in their hour of direst need. He chooses the latter. Also during the first half of the game, he meets a swordsman he gains respect for and tries to match the man in terms of skill. He earns a level of respect from that same man as well.

There's Dart in "Legend of Dragoon" who will run into trouble to save those who are important to him, even though he's spent half or so of his life committed to a mission of revenge against a being known as the Black Monster. Every so often, tragedy strikes, but he doesn't lie around crying about it, nor does he consider quitting his second quest to save the world. When he loses his best friend, Dart carries on and tries to honor his friend's memory. When he discovers the identity of the Black Monster, he forgives her amidst a duel due to a number of reasons, including being a better man than so many others.

Sora/Haseo in .hack// is a fine example of a solid, developing protagonist I like as well. He goes from attention-seeking Player Killer to comatose and amnesiac, to trying out The World again (though the first time he can remember), to following Ovan and Shino on some grand, intriguing adventure, to a mission for revenge that molds him into a renowned slayer of other Player Killers, to an arrogant teenage prick in need of more help than he's willing to receive, to a champion of many and close friend to some. Most of that is in a space of less than a year.

Also: Lenneth from Valkyrie Profile. <_<

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That's just touching briefly on protagonists.
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Zenos in FFXIV: Stormblood actually managed to enter my list of enjoyable antagonists. His own father--the current emperor of Garlemald--thinks of him as a monster. Zenos has a mad scientist for one of his right-hand men/women. He cuts down cowards in his own ranks, often in front of other soldiers under his command. He's powerful. He catches a dragon of devastating power and holds it captive in the middle of his garden, just for kicks (and you can actually believe it with him). He only spares your character, willingly, twice because of his overwhelming desire for a rival, and even tries to convince you that you're as much of a monster as he is before he finishes himself off.

I also enjoyed Kefka and Ardyn in their respective FF games.

Compare to Exdeath from V, who was a demon-possessed tree bent on the generic rule and destroy aspects of super villainy. Or every major antagonist of the XIII trilogy whose plans all boiled down to wanting you to kill them, the latter two so you can take their place.

Beatrice in "Wild Arms 3" was interesting for manipulating everyone, good or bad, to her ultimate end of using the world's energy to create a world of her own. She has the appearance of a little Gothic girl, and is the demon of dreams.

The main antagonist of "Tales of Graces" was just a sentient science experiment that decided to lash out and destroy everything . . . until Asbel's case of the stupid infected him and made him give humanity another chance.

There's this game that calls itself "Wild Arms 4." I have talked at length many times before on this board as to why I hate the game. The main antagonist? He convinces the main character's father to retaliate against humanity and try to destroy the world... by killing a puppy (totally just his own doing), then he goes blind in a confrontation with your party, and he decides to atone for his actions seconds before a giant rock falls on him and the only woman who cared for his ass. No apologies to anyone, including the man he convinced to try to destroy the world, no anything. His long-run scheme through most of the game? It was forgettable and amounted to nothing. AND HE WAS SOMEHOW STILL ONE OF THE BETTER THINGS ABOUT THAT PILE OF SHIT GAME!
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I love you Entity. Mainly for answering the topic question. But also for being an awesome gal too.

I honestly thought that answering the opening question was a newbie trap.

Either way good job answering the question.
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Tag for lurking.

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I blame Faramir for closing the last topic preemptively =x

At any rate:

The Wave Master posted...

Also, in wrestling news JBL is gone from WWE. Thank goodness because he was an ass.

I know, but that's what made him such an effective heel. It's easier to despise somebody when you know they're an awful person irl too.
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Zeus posted...

The Wave Master posted...

Also, in wrestling news JBL is gone from WWE. Thank goodness because he was an ass.

I know, but that's what made him such an effective heel. It's easier to despise somebody when you know they're an awful person irl too.

From what I've been hearing, he wasn't even the person most responsible for driving Mauro away, and basically got made the scapegoat by the company because they already knew he was going to be leaving at that point, so it took some of the heat off the actual culprits who probably aren't going anywhere.


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JBL was still a problem for the overall environment, but him quitting versus getting fired really doesn't do anything for the environment and culture of bullying at WWE.

Nevertheless, he was just okay on commentary and I'm not saying Corey Graves is a better choice as a heel commentator, but maybe things will just get a little bit better behind the scenes. Like a half rainbow after a bad thunderstorm.

I miss CM Punk. He was great in the ring and on commentary and he was awesome at cutting promos.
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The Wave Master posted...

Nevertheless, he was just okay on commentary and I'm not saying Corey Graves is a better choice as a heel commentator, but maybe things will just get a little bit better behind the scenes. Like a half rainbow after a bad thunderstorm.

I've gradually soured on Corey Graves, even before they kept trying to insert him into every story ("I found a videotape!")

The Wave Master posted...

I miss CM Punk. He was great in the ring and on commentary and he was awesome at cutting promos.

He's probably the only person who could get me watching WWE on a regular basis again. However, Shelton Benjamin coming back rekindled my interest so I might try tracking down new matches and segments involving him.
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The whole Corey Graves "Finding" a video tape of Enzo and Cass was just terrible. So damn terrible that I just asked my wife if she remembered that happening and she went, "Huh... No...!"

The only thing she remembers about Corey Graves isn't his stint in NXT, but the fact that he's never not given money to a tatoo parlor. Look at him, he's a walking back alley tatoo parlor billboard. Or he's helping one particular tatoo artist put his kod's through college.

Either way he's what we got on commentary and he's better than The King verbally sexually harrasing all the female wrestlers every single match.

The commentary choices are slim over at WWE.
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My one post of the topic. Still don't like the name. See ya!
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Also forgot to give props to JBL for keeping kayfabe alive by making appearances on Fox News and maintaining the persona (if not the reality) of being a successful businessman.

Terrible wrestler, though. As much as I liked his ability to cut a promo and his heel stables, the guy couldn't work a match for crap and he had one of the worst finishers (I think I only rank Big Show's "Knockout Punch" as a lazier finish although, in terms of just outright bad finishing moves, I've always hated the hokiness of Rey Mysterio's 619 despite admiring the athleticism involved)

The Wave Master posted...

The only thing she remembers about Corey Graves isn't his stint in NXT, but the fact that he's never not given money to a tatoo parlor. Look at him, he's a walking back alley tatoo parlor billboard. Or he's helping one particular tatoo artist put his kod's through college.

I kinda regret not getting into NXT early enough to see his wrestling run since I'm somewhat curious about that.

The Wave Master posted...

Either way he's what we got on commentary and he's better than The King verbally sexually harrasing all the female wrestlers every single match.

"Puppies!"

Supposedly a lot of that behavior was at Vince's requests although Lawler portrays himself as a massive pervert on social media.

The Wave Master posted...

The commentary choices are slim over at WWE.

Eh, the play-by-play guys are usually ok (when they're actually calling play-by-play...). It's just the color commentators that need work.
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TDIL that the legendary dogs are region/continental exclusives in Pokemon Go... and Suicune isn't for my region. Wtf, Niantic...?
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The Wave Master posted...

and I'm not saying Corey Graves is a better choice as a heel commentator

I'd be willing to say that Corey Graves is a better heel commentator than JBL, though.

Honestly, at this point, he's probably the best active commentator they have main roster, which is why I'm not too bothered by the fact that he's the one they chose to straddle both Raw and Smackdown. Most of the other options would have been way, way worse.

The flip-side of that is, it's sort of acknowledged that certain announcers have Vince in their ear the entire show (and JBL was his go-to guy for a while), so sometimes it's hard to tell if an announcer is being awkward/terrible on their own, because they're just regurgitating things Vince has told them to say, or because they're getting distracted trying to pay attention to the ring, the other announcers, AND Vince and production/Kevin Dunn at the same time. So it's possible that, for all that JBL has kind of sucked lately (and Booker definitely does), it might not be their own fault.

Which implies if Corey is getting moved up to "announcer prime" position, his performance might start suffering in the same way.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

(and Booker definitely does)

At least Booker was hilarious on commentary at times, especially when it came to his overreactions about the impact of wrestling moves ("Feels like your whole body is going numb!").
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The two best things Booker T has ever done is his "King Booker" gimmick after winning King of the Ring. It was great the he had a terrible fake British accent and called everyone "Peasants."

The second thing was his horrible,but funny, fued with The Boogeyman where he screamed and cried how much he hated, "That Worm Eating Bastard."

Both of those feuds made me laugh, and thus they get a pass.

His commentary is not on that list, but I've heard worse. The truth is we all need Bobby "The Brain" Heenan to not be dead and come and show people how to do great color heel commentary.

"Get this ham and egger out of the ring."
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The Wave Master posted...

The truth is we all need Bobby "The Brain" Heenan to not be dead and come and show people how to do great color heel commentary.

He's not dead. But he's in really bad shape.

Cancer's a bitch.


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Holy Crap I thought Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was dead. Son of a gun. Yeah, cancer is a pain in the rear.

I've been trying to mention that in South Park: The Fractured but Whole that if you start the game as a minority (Basically Black) the game difficulty is harder. The choices are less favorable, people treat you worse, and overall life in the game is more of a challenge.

The obvious response is, "That's racist." But it is pretty funny and truthful. I'm sure the NAACP is going to complain, but as a minority o thinking pretty funny.

What do some of you non minorities thunk?
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Yeah, it's going to cause controversy, I'm sure but I'm curious to see how they spin it.

If we're being honest though, it's thematically appropriate.
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The Wave Master posted...

The two best things Booker T has ever done is his "King Booker" gimmick after winning King of the Ring. It was great the he had a terrible fake British accent and called everyone "Peasants."

Yeah, that was fucking awesome although Sharmell's "All hail King Booker!" chants got grating after the first *five* minutes of his ring entrance. All in all, he's probably my fave King of the Ring.

I loved his feud with Benoit over the US title during that time when "Sir" Fit Finlay did all of the actual wrestling on Booker's behalf.

The Wave Master posted...

The second thing was his horrible,but funny, fued with The Boogeyman where he screamed and cried how much he hated, "That Worm Eating Bastard."

It was a fun feud. Boogeyman was great until he got into the ring and actually had to wrestle. It was one of those cases where the gimmick is great, but the actual ability wasn't there.



The Wave Master posted...

I've been trying to mention that in South Park: The Fractured but Whole that if you start the game as a minority (Basically Black) the game difficulty is harder. The choices are less favorable, people treat you worse, and overall life in the game is more of a challenge.

The obvious response is, "That's racist." But it is pretty funny and truthful. I'm sure the NAACP is going to complain, but as a minority o thinking pretty funny.

What do some of you non minorities thunk?

While I don't buy into it, I find the mechanic amusing. I'm not sure if *anybody* would complain given that it plays into the SJW mindset while everybody else will just write it off.
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The Wave Master posted...

Holy Crap I thought Bobby "The Brain" Heenan was dead. Son of a gun. Yeah, cancer is a pain in the rear.

He was at the Chiller convention recently, and my friend went and was going to try and get his autograph, but he said that he looked so bad and was having trouble talking that it made him feel kind of awkward and he kind of avoided him instead (with that sort of "I'd rather remember him the way he used to be" mentality).

The worst part for him is that he sort of fell into that same sort of ironic hell that Ebert did, where he wound up getting cancer that kind of ruined his ability to talk, when he was probably best known for talking. At least in Ebert's case he could still write movie review articles, but with Heenan not being able to talk pretty much means not being Heenan.



The Wave Master posted...

I've been trying to mention that in South Park: The Fractured but Whole that if you start the game as a minority (Basically Black) the game difficulty is harder. The choices are less favorable, people treat you worse, and overall life in the game is more of a challenge.

The obvious response is, "That's racist." But it is pretty funny and truthful. I'm sure the NAACP is going to complain, but as a minority o thinking pretty funny.

I'd be inclined to say that no one worth caring about would complain, mainly because they did something similar in Stick of Truth where "Jew" was a character class and no one seemed to kick up much of a stink about it.

I'm sure some people online will bitch, but people online will bitch about pretty much everything, so fuck 'em.

Honestly, though, it's a South Park game - I'm sure there'll be far more horrible things in it than implied racism (or the condemnation of same via parody) anyway.

I mean, the last game basically had an achievement for watching your parents have sex for more than a minute.


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Zeus posted...

Lawler portrays himself as a massive pervert on social media.

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In The King's defense Paige isn't the worst looking lady that worked in the WWE. (Sable, Awesome Kong, Alexa Bliss.) Well, Bliss needs yo eat a damn sammich. (Yes, I'm aware she has anorexia, but she's way too scrawny for my taste.) Awesome Kong is just scary and to think she has a kid. Sable was just not attractive to me.

However, Paige is a bit nasty, and by a bit nasty, I mean real nasty. Her marrying Alberto Del Rio plus the sex tape with Brad Maddox and Xavier Woods sealed her nastiness for me. That's not even mentioning the fact that she has all sorts of issues. Drugs, self esteem, and mommy and daddy issues. Also, abandonment issues too.

The King is still doing what any other guy would do. Look at a decent looking girl's ass. I'm not going to judge him for doing that at all.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Zeus posted...

Lawler portrays himself as a massive pervert on social media.

Oh, c'mon! Any red-blooded guy would have looked, as would have some red-blooded women.

When I'm criticizing him, I more mean stuff like *this*
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYV-eGql_Of/
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Zeus posted...

When I'm criticizing him, I more mean stuff like *this*
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYV-eGql_Of/

I love this though.
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I have three thoughts about that picture.

One of them is that Jerry Lawler is "The King" of perverts.

On a separate note: My wife is convinced that Hurricane Irma is somehow going to Miss Florida and destroy us here in South Mossissippi. Her mom has the same thoughts too. She's looking more and more correct as NOAA keeps shifting the damn storm further West with each update.

As I can't live without fresh water because I need kidney dialysis 3 times a week, it means I could be venturing to north Texas on Monday or Tuesday. Either way I hope she is wrong, but we will know if her psychic powers are strong by tomorrow night.

She had already called her mom about taking care of the kitty cats. (Batman and Ellie.)
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Posting this just because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPzulODLeD8


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Meanwhile, I'll go ahead and post this (and yes, the Vol.4 animation looks underdone)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoDX6yRn9Gw
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Posting this just because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPzulODLeD8

Was hoping for more.
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Zeus posted...

Was hoping for more.

I wish I could say so was I, but my instincts told me it was going to be more dull than a plastic butter knife. Then I watched it and was less than impressed. :-/
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NFL football starts today or what my wife and I call it, CTE ball. Sadly this takes a day away from my video game playing schedule, and as my back log is huge this is a problem.

I already know The Cowboys aren't going to win The Superbowl, but I can pretend for the next 17 weeks of the year that they can. At this poiknt I think I route for The Cowboys because so much hate exist for them that I do it out of spite. And isn't spite how things really get accomplished in life?
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The Wave Master posted...

NFL football starts today or what my wife and I call it, CTE ball. Sadly this takes a day away from my video game playing schedule, and as my back log is huge this is a problem.

I already know The Cowboys aren't going to win The Superbowl, but I can pretend for the next 17 weeks of the year that they can. At this poiknt I think I route for The Cowboys because so much hate exist for them that I do it out of spite. And isn't spite how things really get accomplished in life?

Football? That's jock stuff! We're in the geek topic.
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I watch football for the geometry. The angles of the passes and the leverage required to push a 280 pound human around. You know, math and all that jazz.

On geekier notes It (The Movie) has made a metric ton of money this weekend. And I heard that the movie is actually pretty good too. I will never be able to see the movie as my wife has terrible nightmares and does not watch scary movies. Which means I don't watch scary movies.

Therefore, if any of you do see the movie let me know if It (The Movie) is any good.
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The Wave Master posted...

I will never be able to see the movie as my wife has terrible nightmares and does not watch scary movies. Which means I don't watch scary movies.

Maybe you will when it's on NFI and your wife is off somewhere else for the afternoon.
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The Wave Master posted...

The Cowboys

That star isn't their logo, it's a rating.
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And damn, Jerry Pournelle, co author of Lucifer's Hammer with Larry Niven just died on my birthday...
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On geekier notes It (The Movie) has made a metric ton of money this weekend. And I heard that the movie is actually pretty good too.

From what I've seen in the trailers, it looks like another dime a dozen horror flick that injects loud sound effects to startle the viewer in place of actually scaring them, and that is without a doubt my absolute least favorite type of movie. So I think the film looks like utter shit, and the fact that modern horror fans enjoyed it, when modern horror fans have some of the shittiest taste on the entire planet, only serves to fortify my belief that it's terrible.

I also just watched the RLM review, where they basically said "if you cut out the stupid horror bullshit, it'd be a pretty good movie."

Also also, I've been playing Splatoon 2 all weekend, and it's probably the most fun I've had with a video game in the past few years. I've been itching for a good competitive game for so very long, and I finally found one that I absolutely adore.

Watched Odd Thomas tonight (after it sat on my NFI queue for years), which was complete crap. However, I'm somewhat impressed by the sheer volume of work Dean Koontz has done. Sure, a LOT of it is probably crap -- although I did enjoy the adaptation of Phantoms enough to pick up the novel -- but it's crazy to think about some authors churning out that much stuff, especially because, after a certain point, they clearly don't need the money. Guys like Dean Koontz and Stephen King have to be set for life but, instead of just sticking on a pile of gold like some authors who got lucky, they're still keeping to it.

Raganork posted...

So I think the film looks like utter shit, and the fact that modern horror fans enjoyed it, when modern horror fans have some of the shittiest taste on the entire planet, only serves to fortify my belief that it's terrible.

I also just watched the RLM review, where they basically said "if you cut out the stupid horror bullshit, it'd be a pretty good movie."

It's funny to hear people criticize taste then cite RLM. XD XD XD

But yeah, the trailers didn't really wow me (partly since I saw the miniseries)
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I'm just going to leave this video right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NowW-_8ExkM

Also, Metroid Samus Returns drops on Friday. I'm broke but I want the game, and Nintendo games never really drop in price. Therefore, playing the waiting game and hoping for a price drop isn't a viable iption.

Are any of you geeks playing Destiny 2? If so is it better than Destiny vanilla? I'm thinking it's just marginally better than the first. Which means it's not woeth owning or investing hundreds of hours into the game.
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Zeus posted...

It's funny to hear people criticize taste then cite RLM. XD XD XD

*shrugs*

In addition to them being entertainers, their tastes tend to align with mine. No different than watching/reading other critics' reviews.
Zeus posted...

But yeah, the trailers didn't really wow me (partly since I saw the miniseries)

I think most people have nostalgia for the miniseries because "ooh, I watched a scary movie when I was little," but I actually rewatched it with my brother a few years back, and it hasn't held up. In fact, I'd say it was probably never great to begin with. Yeah, Tim Curry is great and all, and I guess John Ritter is there too, but I think the issue stems from the story itself being so long and convoluted that it doesn't really translate well to film. Or I don't know; I guess I just don't get Stephen King. He's way too weird for my tastes.

The Wave Master posted...

Also, Metroid Samus Returns drops on Friday. I'm broke but I want the game, and Nintendo games never really drop in price. Therefore, playing the waiting game and hoping for a price drop isn't a viable iption.

Speaking of bad taste <_<

But seriously, I saw the words "MercurySteam" and immediately lost every ounce of hope for the game. I imagine this will be very similar to Mirror of Fate, which was one of the worst Metroidvania's I'd ever played. For that reason, I can't put blind faith in these guys and expect this remake to be competent.

Maybe it'll wind up being fantastic, but honestly, even if that's the case, I'd much rather hunt down AM2R and play that, as it caters to my tastes much more than Samus Returns does.

I want to believe that "Samus Returns" is anything more than a cheap cash-in to try to bring back the fans that enjoyed AM2R, as in try too hard rather than simply make a good remake for the sake of being a good remake, but I haven't seen enough to make a final opinion on the matter. I will say that the graphics aren't that appeasing from the trailer, not to mention its style and some of the combat abilities bring back flashbacks from "Other M."
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I never played Metroid 2, so I'm not sure how faithful this remake is, but I will say that a number of the abilities they gave Samus have me scratching my head, though I'm not sure if they were present in the original (and I'm gonna go with no, they weren't).

I'm not at all a fan of being able to reveal hidden passageways on your map, as that completely kills your sense of exploration, and the satisfaction you feel when you stumble upon these secret rooms. SotN and Super Metroid both give the player access to broad maps of the various locations, but they don't reveal the hidden paths. I guess people will say "just don't use the power then," so all right, I can give this one a pass and say it's great for those that hate secrets, and I can just ignore it.

Giving Samus a melee parry feels oddly out of place. I don't hate its inclusion, but I am wondering why they felt the need to include it. When I played Super Metroid, I never once went "man, if only this combat had more depth to it; a parry move would work wonders to keep things exciting." Metroid has always been about exploration; not combat. This is the sort of the same reason why Mirror of Fate failed so catastrophically. They're focusing on combat instead of exploration, and not even doing a great job with the subject they're focusing on.

Then there's stuff like super armor, increasing the rate of fire of your gun, and slowing down time, all of which I'm not against, but there's a major problem here: the hardest difficulty of the game (one where you'd be forced to make clever use out of all of these powers) is locked behind a fuckin' amiibo that's been sold out for a while now. So on easier difficulties, all of this just trivializes the game, and unless you plop down $30 for that new 2-pack of Metroid amiibos, you're shit outta luck.

Lastly, the 2.5D aesthetic doesn't look appealing whatsoever here. I've seen games do 2.5D well (the Trine games come to mind, and they're gorgeous). This is just more of that same sloppy art style used in Mirror of Fate. Seriously, fuck MercurySteam.

So I guess if I just ignore all of the additions they've made and play this like a classic Metroid game, I'll get that classic Metroid experience. For $40. Or, I can just grab AM2R for free and get a prettier-looking Metroid that's more in-line with what I like about Metroidvanias.

I don't want to jump the gun and say this game will be terrible, but from everything I've seen, read, and heard, there's no way I can be even the slightest bit optimistic.

The Wave Master posted...

Also, Metroid Samus Returns drops on Friday. I'm broke but I want the game, and Nintendo games never really drop in price. Therefore, playing the waiting game and hoping for a price drop isn't a viable iption

Amazon sometimes lists it for less and there are digital sales at times. idk, I imagine I might buy it at some point.

Raganork posted...

I think most people have nostalgia for the miniseries because "ooh, I watched a scary movie when I was little," but I actually rewatched it with my brother a few years back, and it hasn't held up. In fact, I'd say it was probably never great to begin with. Yeah, Tim Curry is great and all, and I guess John Ritter is there too, but I think the issue stems from the story itself being so long and convoluted that it doesn't really translate well to film. Or I don't know; I guess I just don't get Stephen King. He's way too weird for my tastes.

Given that I didn't catch it until around college or later, it's certainly not nostalgia. And, when I saw it, I thought it was a terrific series and I've seen it at least once since then. Granted, I've never read the novel -- although seeing the series inspired to me to pick it up.

Entity13 posted...

AM2R

I don't know this abbreviation?

Raganork posted...

I never played Metroid 2, so I'm not sure how faithful this remake is, but I will say that a number of the abilities they gave Samus have me scratching my head, though I'm not sure if they were present in the original (and I'm gonna go with no, they weren't).

I played the original and wasn't really that fond of it. However, Zero Mission greatly improved the original Metroid so this remake may appeal to me.
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Zeus posted...

Entity13 posted...

AM2R

I don't know this abbreviation?

That's literally the title of the fanmade game. It stands for "Another Metroid 2 Remake." It was developed over the course of about ten years for no money with a small group, and it was released August of last year for free.

There was praise, takedowns were issued, there were moderations, there was fist shaking and heavens screaming from BTB, and there were threats from Nintendo to many reviewers not to even acknowledge AM2R or Nintendo would take some action or another.

Then Nintendo's version of a remake was announced this past E3 with a trailer.

So if I do end up getting the game, it would be after the market for it dwindles a fair deal so Nintendo might still get money, but not so much of it or even during peak times when they might measure a game's success. If only for HOW they chose to handle the whole situation, I say they paved the bridge with kerosene and have the match in hand. The actual quality of this remake may or may not be the striking of that match. I'm hoping the game turns out well enough, but we'll see (as no one really wants that bridge to burn).
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Nintendo says to not pay more than 80 bucks for the SNES Classic Edition. (Which is the retail price.)

My suggestion to that is to make more consoles so there isn't a shortage, and to directly control the preorder process instead of farming it out to retailers to mess up spectacularly.

All I know is that my handicapped butt is going to be at Best Buy on the 24th very very early. That way the wife and I can get tickets to actually get a copy. I suggest you do the same if you want a copy of the retro console.

http://gizmodo.com/nintendo-urges-public-don-t-pay-more-than-80-for-snes-1803138702
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