Poll of the Day > Anime, Manga, VN, JRPG, Related Things Discussion Topic LXXVIII

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I started My Hero Academia about 2-3 weeks ago and now I'm up to episode 30... I'm actually loving this.

Also Danganronpa V3 is out ofc
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I have only seen two episodes of made in Abyss but it's amazing so far. Great art and intriguing setting.

Also glad to see people watching hero Academia while sad that I have no more to watch but at least we got food Wars 3 soon!

Why isn't Hero Academia s3 out yet? D:
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Okay so I finished 18if it can only be explained as being "weird trash", I have a fair few other shows waiting to be watched but... Hero academia is calling to me, time for me to watch it, love it then be bitterly disappointed when I finish it
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About halfway through Made in Abyss and it's pretty intriguing. The world seems like it'd be great for a rpg. Have it more focused on exploration and relic gathering than combat, though there would be some combat of course.
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Yea, I'm pretty sure most people who watched Made in Abyss gets invoked a desire to play a game set in it.
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I'm probably gonna read the Made In Abyss manga soon. It sounds cool.
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OlorinTheOtaku posted...

I'm probably gonna read the Made In Abyss manga soon. It sounds cool.

Might as well watch the anime. its pretty faithful. Pretty sure the manga starts on chapter 26 after episode 13. That said you can blaze through whats left of the manga in like 2 hours (and I'm a slow reader).
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If you guys are a fan of Made in Abyss, you should definitely try playing the Etrian Odyssey series.

It's basically that in game form. Complete with exploring a dangerous labyrinth, gruesome and deadly monsters, and cute adventurer lolis!

Plus, EO5 comes out on the 17th! It's one of my most anticipated games of the year!
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Hell yeah! The DS Etrian Odessey games are some of the best Dungeon Crawlers I've played.
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Well, I finished Steins;gate. It was good, but it wasn't as amazing as I expected it to be; All the praise I hear about it got my expectations set too high. It's a pretty tight as far as keeping within its logic for a time travel plot story, but my main problem stems from that they can't be truly clean because it's a damn time travel story.

Also to blame, I think I'm overdosed on anime. Even if something is good and enjoyable, I don't find myself totally drawn in and captivated like I used too. And also, I'm not watching nearly as much anime as a did two years ago when I just got hooked on anime.
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I kind of want to watch Steins;Gate, but I bought the game for it so I should probably play it first.

I picked up on Ace Attorney trilogy again. I'm on the bonus case of the first game; this thing is getting absolutely crazy.
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1-5 is extremely good. I skipped it the first time i went through Phoenix Wright because I had heard it had little overall bearing on the plot (only 1-2 cases in each game generally are actually plot important), but maaaaaan that was a bad idea. Top 5 cases for sure.
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You know when I read Promised Neverland, I thought that was the top example of a manga about torturing and the suffering of little children.

BOY WAS I WRONG.

Holy hell, Made in Abyss gives Berserk a run for it's money on how fucked up the situations the characters can get themselves into. What's even worse is that it's happening to LITERAL CHILDREN.

I think this is the first time I found myself wanting to take a break from reading a manga to read another series that's full of fluff and vanilla just so I wouldn't get horribly depressed while reading the first one.
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T0ffee posted...

Made in Abyss gives Berserk a run for it's money on how f***ed up the situations the characters can get themselves into.

That is a large claim. I'm interested. I have so many I want to read though...
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I guess I should temper that statement by saying that if what happened to those kids happened to adults it probably wouldn't feel as horrible as it is.

I mean one of the characters, a 13 year old girl, literally gets bits surgically removed from them until only their vital organs and brain remain, and then gets summarily squished into a handbag sized container to be used as fuel for a demented scientist, who -surprise surprise- was also her father who raised her up in a "loving" and "kind" way only to be revealed that he had been planning to do that the entire time.

If that happened to say, someone in their 20s, or even an older teenager, I probably wouldn't have felt half as bad when I read it.

The mangaka is a twisted demented genius at drawing adorable children, with their big hope-filled eyes, and then dropping them into absolutely horrific situations and you're left watching despair and agony enter their hearts and break their soul.
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WTF? I thought Made in Abyss would be a Shonen or something, that's sounds way more intense then I was expecting!
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Made in abyss is about as shonen and kiddy as texhnolyze. Has a much more vivid color palette though. Considering thematically that the show is about pressing on through the darkness (literally and metaphorically) it's likely to get even more fucked up in the future. The horror of the arc after the anime is awful but it's not like the story eases up after that. Sadly the story hasn't really continued much after that either. I must know whats at the bottom. Is layer 7 the last layer or is there more? What about the other white whistles and their special relics? What is a blessing? I NEED to know (this shouldn't be spoilers).

I heard the manga used to be really behind on translations but it seems current at the moment and hopefully its newfound popularity will keep it current. Also somewhat hearteningly kinema citrus expressed some desire to adapt more of it in the future (aside from the ova side story thing they are already planning).

I'm kind of surprised the last episode did as well as it did. The overall rating for the show jumped from about 8.4 to 8.8 since the last episode aired and considering its in no way conclusive for the series I was rather surprised. I did read a fair bit of the episode 13 discussion and a lot of people seemed to love it and bumped up their score based on it. Maybe it would have felt better if I hadn't read the manga, not that there is anything bad about episode 13 in the slightest, just would have left me really curious if I hadn't already read ahead.
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All of these recommendations for Made In Abyss make me interested in seeing the anime, since that is done for the season.

I have had Etrian Odyssey V pre-ordered for months, and I am looking forward to it, though I already know it is going to be pain. Crawling through dungeons means pain. But the new Neptunia is happening the week before that, as is Summon Night 6 (... theoretically), so EO5 is going to have competition.

And that assumes I beat Danganronpa V3 by then. I thought that series had no more surprises for me, but the first chapter has already been a real eyebrow-raiser.
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Halfway through my (partial since I saw the first half) re-watch of S2 Hero academia, I just... I know I commented when I saw it before but the Deku vs Todoroki showdown is really fucking awesome, it's the kind of showdown that makes me think "yep, THIS is why I still watch anime" and gets me feeling "pumped" as they say, the episode as a whole is one of those rare 10/10 ratings I almost never give out, the animation the voice work and of course the music are just perfect
/end praise
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Heyyy, there's finally an episode I like Sasuke in!

And not gonna lie, I kinda like the Bijuu counting song thingy XD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1ddFO23qHo
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lol, yeah, that thing. I'm watching fansubs of Naruto and at the end of the OP there's a section where the translators leave a small note of sorts. One time, they said one of their translators didn't know they had a translation archive so every time that song appeared in an episode, he translated it out again XD I bet he was very salty when he found out they had an archive lol.
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Was gonna watch Sakurada Reset, but the subs were just atrociously done, so I deleted it. I'm quite thankful for subs for the most part, but these were just a mess.
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I'm watching Now and Then, Here and There. Fucking Christ, man. That's all I can say...
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Well, that blows. Was gonna start playing Hyperdevotion Noire, but the game crashes on startup and I didn't find a solution that works.
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That does blow. I have so far found neptunia games to be among the better ports from japan. Hopefully you get it working.
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I need to stream more Nep Nep so I can actually continue on with the series.
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T0ffee posted...

You know when I read Promised Neverland, I thought that was the top example of a manga about torturing and the suffering of little children.

BOY WAS I WRONG.

Holy hell, Made in Abyss gives Berserk a run for it's money on how fucked up the situations the characters can get themselves into. What's even worse is that it's happening to LITERAL CHILDREN.

Someone hasnt seen "Now and Then, Here and There"

Oh what a coincidence
EvilMegas posted...

I'm watching Now and Then, Here and There. Fucking Christ, man. That's all I can say...

Yeah but now and then, here and there is actually a sci-fi show where everything runs on the power of garbage plot holes and sheer stupidy. That is the one show where I actually can't understand why it has high ratings. Theres other highly rated shows I don't like, but I at least understand why people liked them. Why does no one care that all the characters are constantly really stupid and that everything everyone does seems like it was intentionally chosen as the worst possible course of action (those fucking assassins man, just why)? Also people misinterpreting the scene with a girl and rock as suicide (you don't bash yourself in the stomach with a rock to commit suicide, it has a different and painfully obvious intention) when that was not what was happening greatly frustrates me as well. Just steal some damn water from earth that you don't even fucking need with your dimensional transfer device you idiots.
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dioxxys posted...

Someone hasnt seen "Now and Then, Here and There"

Oh what a coincidence
EvilMegas posted...
I'm watching Now and Then, Here and There. f***ing Christ, man. That's all I can say...

Yeah I heard that is fucked up.

T0ffee posted...

You know when I read Promised Neverland, I thought that was the top example of a manga about torturing and the suffering of little children.

And to actually answer that there is not actually torture or suffering in Promised Neverland...

I guess I should spoiler tag that? Idk
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1st episode of Juuni Taisen was neat and went beyond my expectations. Nisio Isin is a fucking legend. It's like he took a bet to make action shlock on a whim, but the work oozes originality and confidence solely because of his writing style.
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Also, the Zaregoto series is finally all out.
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eating4fun posted...

1st episode of Juuni Taisen was neat and went beyond my expectations. Nisio Isin is a fucking legend. It's like he took a bet to make action shlock on a whim, but the work oozes originality and confidence solely because of his writing style.

I don't know many japanese writers by name but nisio isin is easily my favorite. It's like he can't help but be interesting no matter what he writes.
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I keep eyeing my Decapitation novel since we first started talking about Nisioisin; I really should start reading it.

In other news, the Skip Beat dub should be out relatively soon; I'll be getting my backer copy in short order. I backed the Kickstarter purely on recommendation since I haven't seen the show before, and the whole project went amazingly and was a total labor of love.
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anyone picked up culdcept revolt?
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New Culdcept already released? And zero advertising for it, as per usual. Might have to put that on the long-term wish list next to Dark Rose Valkryie and other JRPGs I have missed this past year.

Ready for more Neptunia, but I am hoping this new game is not as short as several of the other recent releases in that series. Related: The Vita board has a topic where people are trying to argue that there are no yuri undertones in Neptunia. I find that amusing and sad.
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Wahhh?! Come on theres one character running around calling all the others her waifu's and the eternally tsundere status of playstation characters. Also isn't the oracle of xbox in open yuri love with vert (one sided sadly)?
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Finished season 2 of Hero academia... all I can say is season 3 now please (and 4, 5 etc while your at it)
Great stuff
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Man this has to be the longest I've thought about a show after it ended in some time. I keep finding myself thinking about made in abyss. I've been thinking about how well it pulls off the whole "stay optimistic through adversity" theme with riko when thats usually an extremely frustrating trait for me to see in characters. I really feel like the writing has set up her optimism and cheerfulness very well, so it feels deserved and not just unrealistic or painfully naive.

Firstly, the main drive behind riko is her sense of wonder and awe in regards to the abyss. She is really truly and fully drawn into the abyss. The show starts off with her trying to do whatever she can so they will hurry up and let her go a little deeper. The show also instills in the viewer that same sense of wonder that she has. It just seems obvious that she would be obsessed with they abyss with how mysterious and awesome it looks. The music and artwork really help sell this.

That establishes her drive and source of optimism, but thats only half the puzzle. Horrors await in the abyss and she will have to overcome them. Just really wanting to see the bottom of the abyss isn't enough to overcome some of the horrific shit she goes through. This is where I feel like most characters of her type fail. Riko is prepared. Riko has spent all 12 years of her life learning about the abyss with the intention of eventually setting off on a journey to the bottom, never to return.

While at first it appears she might be treating the whole thing too lightly, once shit hits the fan we see that that isn't the case. She is fully aware she will likely end up dead without reaching the bottom and is fully aware of the creatures of the abyss and the many methods they have of viciously killing her since she has obsessively poured over all the information from abyss she could get her hands on.

It's on the 4th layer we really get to see how mentally and emotionally prepared she is for the journey and that to me is the moment her character goes from average to great. That's why it feels completely normal and fair for her to keep laughing and smiling when things aren't actively horrible. From reading around I think she is the least popular of the main characters but to me that doesn't feel fair, after seeing her archetype done wrong so many times and done so right in this instance. Theres also the fact that she acts a lot more like a believable 12 year old than the vast majority of child characters. They really captured the good and bad aspects of kids IMO. That child like wonder for the world but also the lack of caution as well.

I can't even really bring myself to start another anime yet because I feel like i'm not done thinking about made in abyss. It's weird just how great this season turned out to be. We had 2 of the shows I would consider in my all time favorties (made in abyss, and monogatari series) and both of them even ended up in the top 15 anime shows on MAL. That's not counting the series that are still quite good like kakegurui and boku no hero academia. A lot of people really liked princess principal as well so I need to make sure I give that a watch at some point.
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Shut up you are going to make me add another thing to read
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While the manga is great, I really would watch the anime if at all possible. It's got some of the best art and such an amazing OST. I'm actually still listening to an hour long cut down version of the OST (removing some of the ambience tracks that aren't very exciting on their own) on repeat. I've never heard anything like it. In some ways it reminds me of earlier yuki kajiura works like hack sign and pandora hearts mostly in the way it's unique but extremely consistent in it's style (they don't actually sound similar, they just invoke a similar feeling).

The art is directed by the person that has done lots of art direction for ghibli and this is their masterwork so far. The monsters all move believably and the backgrounds especially when combined with the well used and amazing OST are just breathtaking. With just how incredible the environments are, it can actually be legitimately confusing in the manga sometimes since it's black and white with no motion. The beginning of the arc after the anime I remember having amazing art in the manga but I had no fucking clue what I was looking at. Like, I new it was awesome looking and absurdly well drawn, but I still couldn't really comprehend what it was I was seeing.

The manga also doesn't go that far past the anime (took me about 2 hours to read the rest and I'm not a particularly fast reader) and the adaptation is pretty faithful (word for word in most parts).
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FellWolf posted...

Shut up you are going to make me add another thing to read

lol, in my case, he's making me want to watch the anime, and I almost never watch anime anymore. (other than MHA)
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So, the main drive on my pc shit the bed after the power went out the other day. Luckily, this old xp install seems to have been on my other drive. Checked it a bit ago out of curiosity and it worked. Better than nothing. Went from version 16.0.2 of Firefox, to 54 lol. Guess I'm gonna see what I can scrape together. In the mean time, at least I can use this for browsing and watching anime.
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Funnily enough, my 360 doesn't want to turn on after it accidentally got unplugged. Hopefully it'll start soon.
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Which subgroup for made in abyss
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FellWolf posted...

Which subgroup for made in abyss

I just got horrible

quigonzel posted...

Since everyone seems to be raving about it, I'm starting Goku no Hero Academia. Right as I post this.

Yay Quig is watch Hero Aca

dioxxys posted...

FellWolf posted...

Which subgroup for made in abyss

I just got horrible

quigonzel posted...

Since everyone seems to be raving about it, I'm starting Goku no Hero Academia. Right as I post this.

Yay Quig is watch Hero Aca

I kinda wanna see goku in an intergalactic super hero school now. lol
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Looks like horriblesubs. They did a fine job though IMO. It's almost exactly the manga translation with only 3 notable differences. Cave raiders/delvers, curse/burden, hollow/narehate. I found an awesome thing though. A tweet where the translator explained why he chose what he did.

The japanese term for cave raiders/delvers translates to essentially "search+cave+professional" and while delvers left out the cave part entirely he felt it should have a different term. Sites like ANN had translated it as cave raiders and he felt the term sounded good. IMO delvers is better but it's fine either way, they don't really use the term much past the beginning anyway.

In the anime they very clearly say the word noroi which means curse so this is a case of the anime doing it better. I'm not sure if the manga also used noroi but at the very least the spoken words in the anime leave no other translation. Not sure why the manga uses burden although honestly I think it sounds better just because it sounds unique.

Narehate is a term that means a shadow of one's former self. You could use it to describe a washed up actress or something. The manga translators just transliterated it and left it as narehate whereas the anime translator decided to give it a real translation and felt that hollow was appropriate. In this case I can see arguments for both sides. I personally feel narehate (or something unique) is better in this case but hollow works just fine I suppose. Some fan translations apparently had it translated as "end result" but the anime guy felt that was too neutral when the term narehate has a clear negative connotation. IMO I feel end result used to describe a living thing has a sinister connotation but maybe thats just me.

I think the orb spiker was also transliterated and explained with a note in the manga IIRC but the translation is totally fine.
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