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GTM 08/20/17 11:46:02 PM #51:	It's both wrestling and sexist, but it's what I expect from some wrestling fans, me included /shrug --- BK_Sheikah00 beated me in some contest Boko United - survivor and dillos and nintendo and caelus and wrestling and uca <cite>GTM posted [p:885154565] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>It's both wrestling and sexist, but it's what I expect from some wrestling fans, me included /shrug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/20/17 11:46:12 PM #52:	TheRock1525 posted... Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part. Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. I didn't say "As long as she's hot nothing else matters." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885154576] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part.</quote> Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. I didn't say "As long as she's hot nothing else matters."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/20/17 11:46:19 PM #53:	Charlotte is the best worker of the bunch nowadays, although the face turn isn't really helping her. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885154582] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Charlotte is the best worker of the bunch nowadays, although the face turn isn't really helping her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/20/17 11:48:52 PM #54:	StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part. Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot." --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885154683] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part.</quote> Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing.</quote> Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JetJaguar 08/20/17 11:49:49 PM #55:	StealThisSheen posted... I used to think "Atleast she's hot," but now it looks like she literally sweats hair dye and foundation. I can't even remember what her natural hair color is. Hell, I'm not sure I even know what color she is anymore, since the mat always looks like somebody had a bad time with a birthday cake after her matches. I don't even look at her from the neck up. Is it weird to say she has like...the most attractive torso I have ever seen? Her stomach is insane. --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! <cite>JetJaguar posted [p:885154732] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I used to think "Atleast she's hot," but now it looks like she literally sweats hair dye and foundation. I can't even remember what her natural hair color is. Hell, I'm not sure I even know what color she is anymore, since the mat always looks like somebody had a bad time with a birthday cake after her matches.</quote> I don't even look at her from the neck up. Is it weird to say she has like...the most attractive torso I have ever seen? Her stomach is insane.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/20/17 11:51:05 PM #56:	StealThisSheen posted... I didn't say "As long as she's hot nothing else matters." You... do realize why people use the term "at least" right? When someone says "at least I've got my health" the implication isn't usually "my life's going pretty good and also I'm healthy." --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885154791] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't say "As long as she's hot nothing else matters." </quote> You... do realize why people use the term "at least" right? When someone says "at least I've got my health" the implication isn't usually "my life's going pretty good and also I'm healthy."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JetJaguar 08/20/17 11:51:21 PM #57:	TheRock1525 posted... I feel like criticisms moving from "I don't like her ring work" to "I don't think she's hot anymore" feels a tiny bit sexist. Wahhhhhhhhh --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! <cite>JetJaguar posted [p:885154804] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like criticisms moving from "I don't like her ring work" to "I don't think she's hot anymore" feels a tiny bit sexist.</quote> Wahhhhhhhhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/20/17 11:53:01 PM #58:	For all the talk of the Women's Revolution, on the main roster they're just barely above where they were in 2010. Sure, between 2010 and 2015 they fell even lower, but now we're just back at the point where each brand has a title that gets a 7-12 minute match on PPV and isn't a premiere attraction. The women have had to adapt to fit that pigeonholing --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885154880] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>For all the talk of the Women's Revolution, on the main roster they're just barely above where they were in 2010. Sure, between 2010 and 2015 they fell even lower, but now we're just back at the point where each brand has a title that gets a 7-12 minute match on PPV and isn't a premiere attraction. The women have had to adapt to fit that pigeonholing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/20/17 11:53:18 PM #59:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part. Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot." Not really? I said she WAS a good wrestler that has basically stagnated to the point where I don't want to see her on TV, and there's no "Atleast she's hot" that changes that opinion any. I'm not really sure there's a difference between that and thinking of it as a perk. It's not like I'm saying "Yeah, man, Eva Marie was a great contribution!" Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885154894] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part.</quote> Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing.</quote> Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot."</quote> Not really? I said she WAS a good wrestler that has basically stagnated to the point where I don't want to see her on TV, and there's no "Atleast she's hot" that changes that opinion any. I'm not really sure there's a difference between that and thinking of it as a perk. It's not like I'm saying "Yeah, man, Eva Marie was a great contribution!" Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 08/20/17 11:53:26 PM #60:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part. Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot." This seems like a really silly thing to be worried about. --- http://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:885154901] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part.</quote> Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing.</quote> Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot."</quote> This seems like a really silly thing to be worried about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JetJaguar 08/20/17 11:55:29 PM #61:	NBIceman posted... TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part. Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing. Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot." This seems like a really silly thing to be worried about. Welcome to America in 2017 --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! <cite>JetJaguar posted [p:885155000] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>NBIceman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Uh, I think the whole "at least she was hot" thing is kinda where it gets sexist. Like the "oh she can be a shit wrestler as long as I think she's hot" part.</quote> Since when has "This wrestler is hot" being described as a perk turned into some big "Oh no you didn't" sexist thing.</quote> Cause you didn't describe it as a perk. You described as something that would make you ok with Sasha being a terrible wrestler because "at least she's hot."</quote> This seems like a really silly thing to be worried about.</quote> Welcome to America in 2017</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/20/17 11:56:00 PM #62:	The big problem with Charlotte is Charlotte's character is basically heel Triple H. She'd be in just as bad a place if she was a heel at this point, quite frankly, because well the character stops working once you've lost as many times as she has. She really needs more of a character than "I am great and I know it and the daughter of Ric Flair, whooo." This is most of what Becky's problem is too-- she needs more of a character than "I'm Irish" and "FIYAHHHH" Bayley actually had a good character, but at some point she forgot to like, let it show in matches aside from in the repetitive manufactured spots. Probably some point after the 12th time she got made out to be a total loser on TV. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885155018] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>The big problem with Charlotte is Charlotte's character is basically heel Triple H. She'd be in just as bad a place if she was a heel at this point, quite frankly, because well the character stops working once you've lost as many times as she has. She really needs more of a character than "I am great and I know it and the daughter of Ric Flair, whooo." This is most of what Becky's problem is too-- she needs more of a character than "I'm Irish" and "FIYAHHHH" Bayley actually had a good character, but at some point she forgot to like, let it show in matches aside from in the repetitive manufactured spots. Probably some point after the 12th time she got made out to be a total loser on TV.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/20/17 11:56:14 PM #63:	I mean this is the problem with the brand split, you essentially have six-woman divisions on each show which means you either end up with Smackdown's issue (cramming the 5 non-champion women into matches) or the RAW problem (focusing on 2-3 women at a time). Like, Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair literally did not have matches on Summerslam. Fucking Summerslam. Which had like 20 matches on it. And keep in mind Smackdown actually was doing a good job with this not that long ago! They had 3 women's storylines running between Becky/Natalya, Nikki/Carmella, and Naomi/Alexa! --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155029] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>I mean this is the problem with the brand split, you essentially have six-woman divisions on each show which means you either end up with Smackdown's issue (cramming the 5 non-champion women into matches) or the RAW problem (focusing on 2-3 women at a time). Like, Becky Lynch and Charlotte Flair literally did not have matches on Summerslam. Fucking Summerslam. Which had like 20 matches on it. And keep in mind Smackdown actually was doing a good job with this not that long ago! They had 3 women's storylines running between Becky/Natalya, Nikki/Carmella, and Naomi/Alexa!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/20/17 11:59:25 PM #64:	StealThisSheen posted... Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155196] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. </quote> I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:00:27 AM #65:	Can we admit yet that the whole Emmalina thing was bad for Emma? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155255] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Can we admit yet that the whole Emmalina thing was bad for Emma?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:01:20 AM #66:	Lopen posted... She really needs more of a character than "I am great and I know it and the daughter of Ric Flair, whooo." This is most of what Becky's problem is too-- she needs more of a character than "I'm Irish" and "FIYAHHHH" You're dead wrong on Becky, whenever she's given time she's been money. Whether it be her initial work with Alexa, her reaction to being betrayed by Natalya, or her great promo with Daniel Bryan after the MitB ppv, she really is one of the few true babyfaces in the WWE. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155304] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>She really needs more of a character than "I am great and I know it and the daughter of Ric Flair, whooo." This is most of what Becky's problem is too-- she needs more of a character than "I'm Irish" and "FIYAHHHH"</quote> You're dead wrong on Becky, whenever she's given time she's been money. Whether it be her initial work with Alexa, her reaction to being betrayed by Natalya, or her great promo with Daniel Bryan after the MitB ppv, she really is one of the few true babyfaces in the WWE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/21/17 12:01:29 AM #67:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard. We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885155309] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. </quote> I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.</quote> We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GTM 08/21/17 12:03:43 AM #68:	im also sure vince thinks a lot of the big men are hot --- BK_Sheikah00 beated me in some contest Boko United - survivor and dillos and nintendo and caelus and wrestling and uca <cite>GTM posted [p:885155432] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>im also sure vince thinks a lot of the big men are hot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:04:08 AM #69:	As long as we can acknowledge Heath checking out Dolph in the KFC commercial "Well cock-a-doodle-doo.." --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155452] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>As long as we can acknowledge Heath checking out Dolph in the KFC commercial "Well cock-a-doodle-doo.."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/21/17 12:04:37 AM #70:	Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. But that's a manufactured spot more than her feeling like she's just improvising something. This is actually why I think girls like Maryse and Daffney were really underrated wrestlers. Yeah they weren't the best workers, but man the mannerisms and style they put on their moves, it was great and leagues ahead of anything on the main roster women nowadays on that front. I need to watch the Mae Young Classic. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885155475] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. But that's a manufactured spot more than her feeling like she's just improvising something. This is actually why I think girls like Maryse and Daffney were really underrated wrestlers. Yeah they weren't the best workers, but man the mannerisms and style they put on their moves, it was great and leagues ahead of anything on the main roster women nowadays on that front. I need to watch the Mae Young Classic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/21/17 12:05:44 AM #71:	Jakyl25 posted... As long as we can acknowledge Heath checking out Dolph in the KFC commercial "Well cock-a-doodle-doo.." Damn straight we can --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885155548] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote>As long as we can acknowledge Heath checking out Dolph in the KFC commercial "Well cock-a-doodle-doo.."</quote> Damn straight we can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:07:44 AM #72:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJo2H8d6FQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xis0utkw1p8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWT4GnBfXk The three examples I cited about Becky. Push this woman, God dammit. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155652] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJo2H8d6FQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xis0utkw1p8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWT4GnBfXk The three examples I cited about Becky. Push this woman, God dammit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:09:06 AM #73:	Lopen posted... Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155720] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. </quote> It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 08/21/17 12:11:03 AM #74:	that main event was so good why do we continue with the brock thing this was the time for him to lose I just don't fuckin' get it. --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:885155826] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>that main event was so good why do we continue with the brock thing this was the time for him to lose I just don't fuckin' get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:11:21 AM #75:	StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard. We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it? Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155835] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. </quote> I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.</quote> We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it?</quote> Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:11:40 AM #76:	Remember when they brought the Wyatts up and they were great for awhile? They started over and redid the setup. They showed us who they were instead of just telling us. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155850] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Remember when they brought the Wyatts up and they were great for awhile? They started over and redid the setup. They showed us who they were instead of just telling us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/21/17 12:11:58 AM #77:	I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that. Let her revert to clumsy Bayley due to main roster jitters. Also on Becky keep in mind I'm mostly talking about in the ring. Like I do agree she's good at showing emotion in promos and stuff but she really hasn't figured out how to convey that in matches other than FIYAHHHH --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885155865] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that. Let her revert to clumsy Bayley due to main roster jitters. Also on Becky keep in mind I'm mostly talking about in the ring. Like I do agree she's good at showing emotion in promos and stuff but she really hasn't figured out how to convey that in matches other than FIYAHHHH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:12:29 AM #78:	ExThaNemesis posted... that main event was so good why do we continue with the brock thing this was the time for him to lose I just don't fuckin' get it. $$$$$ --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155891] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>ExThaNemesis posted...</cite> <quote>that main event was so good why do we continue with the brock thing this was the time for him to lose I just don't fuckin' get it.</quote> $$$$$</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
davidponte 08/21/17 12:12:41 AM #79:	Alexa is hot --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! <cite>davidponte posted [p:885155901] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Alexa is hot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:12:50 AM #80:	Jakyl25 posted... Lopen posted... Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating! Like it undermines the whole concept of Bayley! She was even given the opportunity to relinquish the title and didn't! --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885155909] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. </quote> It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait</quote> I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating! Like it undermines the whole concept of Bayley! She was even given the opportunity to relinquish the title and didn't!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 08/21/17 12:13:46 AM #81:	and this Jinder Mahal experiment what are we doing was the point of bringing up Shinsuke Nakamura so we can keep flailing in the dark with this BS so stupid. Why --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:885155947] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>and this Jinder Mahal experiment what are we doing was the point of bringing up Shinsuke Nakamura so we can keep flailing in the dark with this BS so stupid. Why</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:14:18 AM #82:	Lopen posted... I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that, cause screw continuity. NXT Bayley was a journey from a starstruck naive character to one who was still optimistic but learned how to stick up for herself and overcome. It was a really great story --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885155974] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that, cause screw continuity. </quote> NXT Bayley was a journey from a starstruck naive character to one who was still optimistic but learned how to stick up for herself and overcome. It was a really great story</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 08/21/17 12:14:25 AM #83:	Anyway, one of the highlights of the show was one of the first time Shane didn't get to count one of KO's pinfalls fast enough, Kevin screams "YOU FALL OFF BUILDINGS AND YOU CAN'T RECOVER FROM THAT IN TIME TO COUNT THREE?" --- "undertale hangs out with mido" - ZFS Not changing this sig until CM Punk returns to the WWE <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:885155980] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Anyway, one of the highlights of the show was one of the first time Shane didn't get to count one of KO's pinfalls fast enough, Kevin screams "YOU FALL OFF BUILDINGS AND YOU CAN'T RECOVER FROM THAT IN TIME TO COUNT THREE?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:15:21 AM #84:	TheRock1525 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Lopen posted... Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating! Like it undermines the whole concept of Bayley! She was even given the opportunity to relinquish the title and didn't! Dave and Bryan go back to that a lot When she admitted she didn't deserve the title but kept it anyway, that was DEATH --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885156023] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I know this is weird but... am I the only one who thinks Bayley would be a much better wrestler if she like, had more "sloppy" looking moves in her repertoire? Like she's supposed to be this scrappy underdog who's just happy to be here and she's doing all these suplexes and moving really gracefully and stuff. Her whole "whoooaaaaa" spin -> corner attack is like the only time she seems like Bayley in there. </quote> It's been said before, but they brought Bayley to the main roster and never told the Bayley story. "Oh hey she's Sasha's friend and she was good in NXT, trust us." And then they started acting like she was a simpleton even after she had already demonstrated she wasn't young starstruck Baylee now. It's really dumb. It's like bringing up Finn Balor and just trying to sell him as a dude who cosplays sometimes Oh wait</quote> I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating! Like it undermines the whole concept of Bayley! She was even given the opportunity to relinquish the title and didn't!</quote> Dave and Bryan go back to that a lot When she admitted she didn't deserve the title but kept it anyway, that was DEATH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/21/17 12:18:32 AM #85:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard. We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it? Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler. Again, I never said it justifies anything. This isn't an Eva Marie situation where I'm saying "Yeah, she should be on the show ONLY because she's hot!" What I said was that if they're gonna push her anyway, it'd help for me to not completely hate it if I found her hot. This is basically the reverse of what you're suggesting. You're suggesting I'm going "Put all hot people on TV even if they can't wrestle." I'm saying they're already shoving her down our throats, so I wish "She's hot" was a perk to it. Hence why it's more of a perk than a justification. Her being hot wouldn't make me actually like her/defend her/whatever. But again, that's part of wrestling. I just don't see why this is a big issue. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885156152] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. </quote> I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.</quote> We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it?</quote> Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler.</quote> Again, I never said it justifies anything. This isn't an Eva Marie situation where I'm saying "Yeah, she should be on the show ONLY because she's hot!" What I said was that if they're gonna push her anyway, it'd help for me to not completely hate it if I found her hot. This is basically the reverse of what you're suggesting. You're suggesting I'm going "Put all hot people on TV even if they can't wrestle." I'm saying they're already shoving her down our throats, so I wish "She's hot" was a perk to it. Hence why it's more of a perk than a justification. Her being hot wouldn't make me actually like her/defend her/whatever. But again, that's part of wrestling. I just don't see why this is a big issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:18:46 AM #86:	TheRock1525 posted... I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating! another issue too is that they stuck her in title contention from Day One You can't tell a story about how the heel women laugh at her and don't take her seriously and that it leads to her self-doubt if she's just walking in the door and pinning Charlotte --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885156160] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>I was actually thinking about how they tried to retell Bayley's story on the main roster, which I guess what could have actually worked of they didn't rush through it and literally have her win the title via cheating!</quote> another issue too is that they stuck her in title contention from Day One You can't tell a story about how the heel women laugh at her and don't take her seriously and that it leads to her self-doubt if she's just walking in the door and pinning Charlotte</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/21/17 12:20:34 AM #87:	Jakyl25 posted... Lopen posted... I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that, cause screw continuity. NXT Bayley was a journey from a starstruck naive character to one who was still optimistic but learned how to stick up for herself and overcome. It was a really great story Yes but like I feel like we're talking about different things here. I'm saying Alexa is good because she's good at letting her weasel jackass heel persona flow into matches with the style she puts on her moves, jawing with the fans/ref, etc etc. You guys are saying "Bayley didn't get her story told" and "Becky can cut good promos if given time" Which is fine but it has nothing to do with how they wrestle Like I've never seen Bayley wrestle with a twinge of clumsiness or the feeling of someone who doesn't have a plan or whatever, nor does she often feel super sympathetic with the way she sells and whatnot. Becky like, if we're gonna play off the Irishness then she should have a bit of a meanstreak in her matches. If we're gonna play off her PURE HEART then she should be better at like, hope spots or something. It's hard to describe but like, I've seen it done well before. Mayumi Ozaki was awesome at this kinda stuff. I'm having trouble thinking of a good WWE analogue-- Trish maybe was better at this, at least. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885156228] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I didn't see a lot of Bayley in NXT beyond a few matches here and there-- was she wrestling more like that there? Cause if she was they should've totally reverted to that, cause screw continuity. </quote> NXT Bayley was a journey from a starstruck naive character to one who was still optimistic but learned how to stick up for herself and overcome. It was a really great story</quote> Yes but like I feel like we're talking about different things here. I'm saying Alexa is good because she's good at letting her weasel jackass heel persona flow into matches with the style she puts on her moves, jawing with the fans/ref, etc etc. You guys are saying "Bayley didn't get her story told" and "Becky can cut good promos if given time" Which is fine but it has nothing to do with how they wrestle Like I've never seen Bayley wrestle with a twinge of clumsiness or the feeling of someone who doesn't have a plan or whatever, nor does she often feel super sympathetic with the way she sells and whatnot. Becky like, if we're gonna play off the Irishness then she should have a bit of a meanstreak in her matches. If we're gonna play off her PURE HEART then she should be better at like, hope spots or something. It's hard to describe but like, I've seen it done well before. Mayumi Ozaki was awesome at this kinda stuff. I'm having trouble thinking of a good WWE analogue-- Trish maybe was better at this, at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:22:24 AM #88:	Like Ember Moon maybe? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885156311] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Like Ember Moon maybe?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/21/17 12:23:55 AM #89:	Maybe. I haven't watched NXT in almost a year so. I might watch this NXT show that happened recently in a bit though I think she has a match there with Asuka or something so maybe I can report. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885156371] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Maybe. I haven't watched NXT in almost a year so. I might watch this NXT show that happened recently in a bit though I think she has a match there with Asuka or something so maybe I can report.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:26:12 AM #90:	StealThisSheen posted... What I said was that if they're gonna push her anyway, it'd help for me to not completely hate it if I found her hot. This is basically the reverse of what you're suggesting. You're suggesting I'm going "Put all hot people on TV even if they can't wrestle." I'm saying they're already shoving her down our throats, so I wish "She's hot" was a perk to it. Hence why it's more of a perk than a justification. Her being hot wouldn't make me actually like her/defend her/whatever. Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit. StealThisSheen posted... I just don't see why this is a big issue. It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. So why are we still having this discussion? --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885156478] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>What I said was that if they're gonna push her anyway, it'd help for me to not completely hate it if I found her hot. This is basically the reverse of what you're suggesting. You're suggesting I'm going "Put all hot people on TV even if they can't wrestle." I'm saying they're already shoving her down our throats, so I wish "She's hot" was a perk to it. Hence why it's more of a perk than a justification. Her being hot wouldn't make me actually like her/defend her/whatever.</quote> Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit. <cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>I just don't see why this is a big issue.</quote> It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. So why are we still having this discussion?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/21/17 12:27:04 AM #91:	TheRock1525 posted... It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. If it's a tiny bit I probably wouldn't be posting it to begin with. I definitely wouldn't be arguing about it for 20 posts. But that's just me. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:885156508] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. </quote> If it's a tiny bit I probably wouldn't be posting it to begin with. I definitely wouldn't be arguing about it for 20 posts. But that's just me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 08/21/17 12:27:06 AM #92:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard. We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it? Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler. I don't understand why this is a problem. Plenty of male wrestlers are saved by their looks too. Brian Cage is an aggressively mediocre worker but there's hardly anyone who looks more like a wrestler nowadays. --- http://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:885156511] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Like, I get that's inherently sexist a little bit, but no more than really anything else in wrestling, to the point where I don't see why it's getting called out. </quote> I mean, if we acknowledge it's sexist (and I even said it was a tiny bit, not OMG YOU PIG) then I don't feel like it shouldn't be acknowledged, and everyone knows that you're not some raging sexist so I don't know why we shouldn't hold ourselves to a higher standard.</quote> We'd probably hold ourselves to a higher standard when wrestling itself does. I mean, let's be honest, here. Most of them try/intend to be seen as hot/attractive. So why is that okay, but it's not okay to acknowledge it?</quote> Once again, it comes back to "at least she's hot" thing. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging the attractiveness of female wrestlers, it's another to make it sound like it justifies massive short-comings in other areas. And the implication in your original post is that Sasha has become a really bad wrestler.</quote> I don't understand why this is a problem. Plenty of male wrestlers are saved by their looks too. Brian Cage is an aggressively mediocre worker but there's hardly anyone who looks more like a wrestler nowadays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:29:09 AM #93:	Becky's inherent problem is that she's stuck on Smackdown with some pretty suspect workers save Natalya (and Charlotte but considering they're booked as BFFs right now we don't get to see them work against each other). Like her first feud was with Alexa Bliss, and I think I've made my feelings pretty clear on her ring work. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885156600] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Becky's inherent problem is that she's stuck on Smackdown with some pretty suspect workers save Natalya (and Charlotte but considering they're booked as BFFs right now we don't get to see them work against each other). Like her first feud was with Alexa Bliss, and I think I've made my feelings pretty clear on her ring work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/21/17 12:29:19 AM #94:	TheRock1525 posted... Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit. While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_> --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885156606] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit.</quote> While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 08/21/17 12:30:49 AM #95:	Man the next SD PPV is Hell in a Cell Are we really gonna have Jinder in a Punjabi Prison and a HiaC in the same reign? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:885156662] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>Man the next SD PPV is Hell in a Cell Are we really gonna have Jinder in a Punjabi Prison and a HiaC in the same reign?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JetJaguar 08/21/17 12:31:03 AM #96:	TheRock1525 posted... It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. So why are we still having this discussion? because you brought it up you whiny baby --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! <cite>JetJaguar posted [p:885156674] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. So why are we still having this discussion?</quote> because you brought it up you whiny baby</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:31:27 AM #97:	StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit. While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_> How do these contradict at all? "At least she's hot" implies the wrestler's shortcomings don't matter. "At least _____ won" implies the match's shortcomings don't matter. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885156694] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit.</quote> While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_></quote> How do these contradict at all? "At least she's hot" implies the wrestler's shortcomings don't matter. "At least _____ won" implies the match's shortcomings don't matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JetJaguar 08/21/17 12:31:58 AM #98:	holy shit --- TimJab - Your 2017 User of the Year! <cite>JetJaguar posted [p:885156713] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote>holy shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 08/21/17 12:33:04 AM #99:	Lopen posted... TheRock1525 posted... It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. If it's a tiny bit I probably wouldn't be posting it to begin with. I definitely wouldn't be arguing about it for 20 posts. But that's just me. Glad to know what is and isn't allowed for discussion in the All Purpose Wrestling Topic. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:885156756] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>It's not. I literally said it's a tiny bit. You agreed it's a tiny bit. </quote> If it's a tiny bit I probably wouldn't be posting it to begin with. I definitely wouldn't be arguing about it for 20 posts. But that's just me.</quote> Glad to know what is and isn't allowed for discussion in the All Purpose Wrestling Topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 08/21/17 12:33:06 AM #100:	TheRock1525 posted... StealThisSheen posted... TheRock1525 posted... Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit. While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_> How do these contradict at all? "At least she's hot" implies the wrestler's shortcomings don't matter. "At least _____ won" implies the match's shortcomings don't matter. The second one certainly doesn't have to imply that at all If I say "Ugh, that match was shit, but atleast Heath won," I'm not saying "Heath won so it doesn't matter that the match is shit." I'm saying "The only good part was Heath winning" or "The match was shit, but Heath winning was a plus." And thus, the first one doesn't have to imply that, either. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:885156759] in All-Purpos... [t:75691963]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>Because saying "at least" doesn't imply perk, it implies that her other short-comings are overcome by this one attribute. Once again, if say you described a match as "at least ____ won" it would readily imply that the match itself was shit.</quote> While I'm done with the discussion itself, these two things kinda... Contradict each other? In the first part, you're saying "at least" implies one thing overcomes all the other short-comings. In your example, "at least ____ won" is saying ____ winning is the only good part about the match, and that it's acknowledged that the rest was shit. Like, your own semantics aren't even matching up, which is why I think our disagreement is happening. >_></quote> How do these contradict at all? "At least she's hot" implies the wrestler's shortcomings don't matter. "At least _____ won" implies the match's shortcomings don't matter.</quote> The second one certainly doesn't have to imply that at all If I say "Ugh, that match was shit, but atleast Heath won," I'm not saying "Heath won so it doesn't matter that the match is shit." I'm saying "The only good part was Heath winning" or "The match was shit, but Heath winning was a plus." And thus, the first one doesn't have to imply that, either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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