Current Events > 'These statues have been around for 100 years, why do people hate them now?'

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Well CE? What's your rebuttal to that? >_>
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What makes you think that people only hate them "now", and haven't hated them all this time?
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is she hot?
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Tell her how long they've actually been around.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Tell her how long they've actually been around.

How long have they been actually around?
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1. The internet helps amplify and spread marginalized voices. What could black people have done in the 1920s south to oppose a monument?
2. A lot of these statues and monuments aren't 100 years old. Many went up in the 40s and 50s in pushback to the civil rights movement. A monument went up in Delaware in 2007.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/08/15/delaware-leaders-make-no-moves-oust-confederate-monument/570039001/
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darkphoenix181 posted...

is she hot?

never change, CE lol
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The people protesting them aren't 100 years old . . .
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The "everybody's a winner" generation is coming of age where they have influence. Sadly, people consider their opinions as valid. Instead of appreciating opposing views, they throw a tantrum when they encounter an unfavorable opinion, as their upbringing prevented them from developing even the most rudimentary coping mechanisms.

Rexdragon125 posted...

The "everybody's a winner" generation is coming of age where they have influence.

We're talking about giant statues to the losers of a war.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

is she hot?

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Rexdragon125 posted...

The "everybody's a winner" generation

At least they're not building statues to and for losers.
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NeonOctopus posted...

Phantom_Nook posted...

Tell her how long they've actually been around.

How long have they been actually around?

1890-1950ish

100 years isn't a bad estimate
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Antifar posted...

We're talking about giant statues to the losers of a war.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

At least they're not building statues to and for losers.

I feel irony is lost on people like him, sadly.
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fenderbender321 posted...

I don't remember any discussions on TV, the media, the classroom, etc about these statues back when I was growing up in the 90s or early 2000s. Suddenly, everyone is talking about them. It's really strange.

That awkward moment when you finally realize that the world doesn't revolve around you and your experiences.
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fenderbender321 posted...

3rd_Best_Master posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

I don't remember any discussions on TV, the media, the classroom, etc about these statues back when I was growing up in the 90s or early 2000s. Suddenly, everyone is talking about them. It's really strange.

That awkward moment when you finally realize that the world doesn't revolve around you and your experiences.

When it comes to discussions, that's literally all we can comment on.

It is quite astounding how new events can happen and new discussions can arise over time!
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Being offended is culture currency.
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People really going to act like Confederate statues being removed HASN'T been an issue for quite some time? There's a reason why states like Alabama have passed laws recently to prevent their removal. It wasn't getting a ton of air time, but that's because there was a literal neo nazi rally where someone was murdered around keeping one erect.
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Xelltrix posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

is she hot?

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The Great Muta 22 posted...

People really going to act like Confederate statues being removed HASN'T been an issue for quite some time? There's a reason why states like Alabama have passed laws recently to prevent their removal. It wasn't getting a ton of air time, but that's because there was a literal neo nazi rally where someone was murdered around keeping one erect.

How is that the statue's fault?

This is ban video games because some asshole kid killed their sister with a screwdriver logic.
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Personally, I think that in school a lot of younger people (millennials) were taught this sort of lie that the US was past its race related issues. However, when people went out in the real world and saw obvious racism is obvious, many have taken on a sort of new crusade.

I doubt you'll find too many older people calling for these statues to be taken down in comparison to young people. To young people, the idea these statues are up is shocking as it doesn't fit into the idea of a "post racial America" they were sold on as kids, and so want to take them down in the new anti racism crusade.

I really have nothing to back this up so my opinion is safely ignored. But I think a lot of why younger see race as they do has to do with how misleading grade school education is when it comes to civil rights and race related issues.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

How is that the statue's fault?

This is ban video games because some asshole kid killed their sister with a screwdriver logic.

Where did I blame the statue for the murder? I was claiming that's why it's such a big deal right now and why it's all over the media, not claiming "it's the statues fault".
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I forgot the bold option existed for gamefaqs messages >_>
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Chad-Henne posted...

Xelltrix posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

is she hot?

Asking the real questions
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

How is that the statue's fault?

This is ban video games because some asshole kid killed their sister with a screwdriver logic.

Where did I blame the statue for the murder? I was claiming that's why it's such a big deal right now and why it's all over the media, not claiming "it's the statues fault".

so the statues have to go now because some fat idiot killed someone...

Makes perfect fucking sense.
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Things change, people change, opinions change as time moves on for better or worse. They shouldn't destroy the statues, they need to move them museums
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No they haven't most of those statues were put up during the night of f the civil right crisis as a way to intimidate blacks.
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tremain07 posted...

Things change, people change, opinions change as time moves on for better or worse. They shouldn't destroy the statues, they need to move them museums

That's still not learning from history
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UnfairRepresent posted...

so the statues have to go now because some fat idiot killed someone...

Makes perfect fucking sense.

Again, you're ignoring that this issue was a thing well before recently, it just wasn't on the news as much. Did you think no one at all was making efforts, on both sides, in regards to this?
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Looks like UR is adhering to his contrarian gimmick again.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

I don't remember any discussions on TV, the media, the classroom, etc about these statues back when I was growing up in the 90s or early 2000s. Suddenly, everyone is talking about them. It's really strange.

That awkward moment when you finally realize that the world doesn't revolve around you and your experiences.

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Because losers want to try and erase history because it hurts their feels
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

so the statues have to go now because some fat idiot killed someone...

Makes perfect fucking sense.

Again, you're ignoring that this issue was a thing well before recently, it just wasn't on the news as much. Did you think no one at all was making efforts, on both sides, in regards to this?

The guy I was responding too thinks otherwise.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

so the statues have to go now because some fat idiot killed someone...

They are going NOW, because non-racists have FINALLY outnumbered Confederate racists in certain state legislatures. All it took was 100 years for that happen.
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Because people who don't understand something are often scared of it.
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Because Trump wasn't president then duh

RE_expert44 posted...

Because losers want to try and erase history because it hurts their feels

Yeah, taking down statues erases all history books and the internet.
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Rexdragon125 posted...

The "everybody's a winner" generation is coming of age where they have influence. Sadly, people consider their opinions as valid. Instead of appreciating opposing views, they throw a tantrum when they encounter an unfavorable opinion, as their upbringing prevented them from developing even the most rudimentary coping mechanisms.

Are you talking about the people that want to keep the statues? They're literally participation trophies for people that never participated lol

lydiaquayle posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

so the statues have to go now because some fat idiot killed someone...

They are going NOW, because non-racists have FINALLY outnumbered Confederate racists in certain state legislatures. All it took was 100 years for that happen.

black people vastly outnumbered white people in former slave states when the civil war ended. The problem is they were disfranchised, uneducated, and had no real way to band as a community except through tiny churches which were like some dude's house with a cross out in front. They were blocked from voting, and if they found a way to vote, the KKK would lynch them.

It's not just a matter of numbers, for the longest time they literally didn't have the same rights as white people. when they got rights, they lacked education. When they got education, they lacked money. White racists started out having all of those things and that's why they were able to keep the systems of oppression in place for as long as they did.
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Lonestar2000 posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

Because losers want to try and erase history because it hurts their feels

Yeah, taking down statues erases all history books and the internet.

Step 1
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I never got how people wanting us to stop honoring dark history and villians turned into wanting to erase history.

The history of the civil war shouldn't be told from a place of bias. And a fucking statue on government ground is a place of bias
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I still wanna know why we have Columbus day when the man was a moronic murderous and rapist psycho who died a fool and in disgrace. I knew that before the Adam ruins everything episode, the jackass never discovered America yet we continue with his day's existence and he's still taught in schools like a hero! What the fuck world?
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In my 45 years of life I never heard a minority complain about them.

It's mostly just white guilt SJWs and Communists.

Like hell, none of the blacks and south Americans I work with has uttered a single word on the issue.

It's all business as usual in my world.
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tremain07 posted...

I still wanna know why we have Columbus day when the man was a moronic murderous and rapist psycho who died a fool and in disgrace. I knew that before the Adam ruins everything episode, the jackass never discovered America yet we continue with his day's existence and he's still taught in schools like a hero! What the fuck world?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_Memorial_Day
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Antifar posted...

1. The internet helps amplify and spread marginalized voices. What could black people have done in the 1920s south to oppose a monument?
2. A lot of these statues and monuments aren't 100 years old. Many went up in the 40s and 50s in pushback to the civil rights movement. A monument went up in Delaware in 2007.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/08/15/delaware-leaders-make-no-moves-oust-confederate-monument/570039001/

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

The people protesting them aren't 100 years old . . .

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gamepimp12 posted...

I never got how people wanting us to stop honoring dark history and villians turned into wanting to erase history.

What's worse is the statues in question were attempts to erase history, whitewashing the Confederate legacy.
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Probably for the same reason we fail to recognize and admit people like to forget that salves were sold to the man by West Africans during the Atlantic Slave Trade. But we wouldn't want to give credit where credit it due would we.